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[The Cypriot]

wot?

[AWE]

Perhaps by abstaining the Govt of the ROC is signalling that not all refugees have an absolute right of return and this may have to be accepted as part of the current CY Prob solution discussions.

I understand that they are between a rock and a hard place - either all refugees have the right or we upset our best friend in the UNSC?

I think that this decision may come back to haunt them in time.

[zan]

wot?

Sorry! I haven't been around for a while so you have gone into a relaxed mode I forgot!!!!!


Short term gain from the ports and long term gain from the EU!!!

[The Cypriot]

wot?

Sorry! I haven't been around for a while so you have gone into a relaxed mode I forgot!!!!!


Short term gain from the ports and long term gain from the EU!!!

That's not logical zan. Sorry. Turkey not opening her ports to trade with Cyprus prevents EU progress which is bad for trade. So you've been hoisted by your own patard.

[zan]

wot?

Sorry! I haven't been around for a while so you have gone into a relaxed mode I forgot!!!!!


Short term gain from the ports and long term gain from the EU!!!

That's not logical zan. Sorry. Turkey not opening her ports to trade with Cyprus prevents EU progress which is bad for trade. So you've been hoisted by your own patard.

Yes it is.......You can put yourself in whoevers shoes you like but the conversation goes like this....Give me the money and I will give you the goods......NO! Give me the goods and I will give you the money.......

[insan]

Perhaps by abstaining the Govt of the ROC is signalling that not all refugees have an absolute right of return and this may have to be accepted as part of the current CY Prob solution discussions.

I understand that they are between a rock and a hard place - either all refugees have the right or we upset our best friend in the UNSC?

I think that this decision may come back to haunt them in time.

The voting breakdown reflected some stable and some shifting international alignments. The United States, all European Union countries but one, and all NATO countries but one, and all GUAM countries but one, voted in favor. The exceptions are NATO member Turkey, E.U. member Cyprus, and GUAM member Moldova, all of which abstained. Turkey's AKP government apparently bowed to its current "strategic partnership" with Russia, in preference to Turkey's traditional strategic partnership with Georgia. The caretaker Moldovan government toed outgoing President Vladimir Voronin's rapprochement with Moscow. And Cyprus -itself interested in upholding the principles of territorial integrity and reversal of ethnic cleansing- may have allowed its own non-transparent financial ties with Moscow to influence its foreign policy. For their part, the U.S.-protected governments of Afghanistan and of Iraq ducked the vote by registering as absent (UNGA, 63rd session, Status of Internally Displaced Persons resolution, plenary meeting 104, record of debate September 9).

http://www.jamestown.org/single/?no_cac ... 9e2a77b18e

Spokesman of GC administration said that 2 cases were not same... What's the difference then?

[insan]

United Nations: The place where 100+ nations exert to protect their own national interests based on realities of the world, not human rights or whatsoever...

Vote on Internally Displaced Persons throughout Georgia



The draft resolution on the status of internally displaced persons and refugees from Abkhazia, Georgia and the Tskhinvali region/South Ossetia, Georgia (document A/63/L.79) was adopted by a recorded vote of 48 in favour to 19 against, with 78 abstentions, as follows:



In favour: Albania, Andorra, Australia, Austria, Azerbaijan, Belgium, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Canada, Croatia, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Georgia, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, Japan, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Monaco, Montenegro, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Saint Lucia, San Marino, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, The former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia, Uganda, Ukraine, United Kingdom, United States, Vanuatu.



Against: Algeria, Armenia, Belarus, Bolivia, Cuba, Democratic People’s Republic of Korea, Ecuador, Ethiopia, India, Iran, Lao People’s Democratic Republic, Myanmar, Nicaragua, Russian Federation, Sri Lanka, Syria, Venezuela, Viet Nam, Zimbabwe.



Abstain: Antigua and Barbuda, Argentina, Bahamas, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Barbados, Benin, Botswana, Brazil, Brunei Darussalam, Burkina Faso, Cameroon, Chile, China, Colombia, Congo, Costa Rica, Cyprus, Djibouti, Dominica, Dominican Republic, Egypt, El Salvador, Fiji, Gabon, Ghana, Guatemala, Guyana, Indonesia, Israel, Jamaica, Jordan, Kazakhstan, Kenya, Kuwait, Kyrgyzstan, Lebanon, Libya, Malaysia, Mauritius, Mexico, Mongolia, Morocco, Namibia, Nepal, Nigeria, Oman, Pakistan, Panama, Papua New Guinea, Paraguay, Peru, Philippines, Qatar, Republic of Korea, Republic of Moldova, Rwanda, Samoa, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Serbia, Singapore, South Africa, Suriname, Swaziland, Switzerland, Thailand, Timor-Leste, Togo, Trinidad and Tobago, Tunisia, Turkey, United Arab Emirates, United Republic of Tanzania, Uruguay, Uzbekistan, Yemen, Zambia.



Absent: Afghanistan, Angola, Belize, Bhutan, Burundi, Cambodia, Cape Verde, Central African Republic, Chad, Comoros, Côte d’Ivoire, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Equatorial Guinea, Eritrea, Gambia, Grenada, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Haiti, Honduras, Iraq, Kiribati, Lesotho, Liberia, Madagascar, Malawi, Maldives, Mali, Marshall Islands, Mauritania, Micronesia (Federated States of), Mozambique, Nauru, Niger, Palau, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Sao Tome and Principe, Seychelles, Sierra Leone, Solomon Islands, Somalia, Sudan, Tajikistan, Tonga, Turkmenistan, Tuvalu.

http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2009/ga10853.doc.htm

[insan]

Though only one third of the General Assembly's participants supported Tbilisi's position it didn't stop Mikheil Saakashvili from stating about "(Moscow's) diplomatic defeat" which is a shame for Russia. Then the president of Georgia made a reservation that the resolution was the first document of this kind that the UN had adopted after the war in August 2008. But with demagogic rhetoric he is known for he then emphasized that "in spite of behind-the-scenes struggle and other methods that were used all EU countries backed unconditional return of refugees and supported Georgia's territorial integrity".

"Today Russia has been diplomatically defeated, - Mikheil Nikolaevich dwelt on with enthusiasm. - Neither Georgia, nor sober-minded democratic forces of the world will put up with what happened in the 21st century - the aggression, occupation attempt and ethnic cleansing. We will never surrender our main right - the right to freedom and the right to territorial integrity".
However, it has to be repeatedly emphasized that the UN voting held with a political pretext openly admitted by the Western delegations, will bring no radical changes to the lives of Georgian refugees. The solution of this humanitarian problem is at a completely different level. A hard and perseverant search for compromises, enormous diplomatic efforts of the UN and all those interested in the conflict resolution are needed. Adoption of another confrontational resolution is not a key to the problem. But Washington's protégé in Georgia can be happy about Russia's "diplomatic defeat". Which is far from true.

http://www.georgiatimes.info/en/?area=a ... icle=21132