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[denizaksulu]

Deniz,

The coup started at dawn on July 15 with simultaneous attempts against the Presidential mansion, RIK, government offices etc. Force was used against targets that were known to be defended, like the police stations, HQ in Nicosia. There were no moves against TCs at this time. The TCs of Kyrenia would have been able to see and know what was going on in the town.

After July 20, the castle was used as a defense point and when the Turkish army arrived in town the BBC news showed the dead bodies of the defenders of the castle who had ran out of ammo and charged with bayonets. There are about a dozen dead soldiers strewn around the castle gate, on July 23 if memory serves. The news clip does not support the allegation of the castle being used as a prison.

During the coup days, July 15-19, "Soft" targets, like hospitals, telephone exchanges etc, were not attacked, in most cases the local EOKA B dudes simply turned up and took control.

My father reported for work on July 15 and in the car park he was met by an EOKA B man, a lawyer, who was surprised to see him. "I thought you people here were on leave" he said. "No, we expected you idiots to come and sign our leave papers" responded my father. He was told it would be better to return home which he did.

Considering that my father had been leading prosecutor of many EOKA B men, he would have been a prime target for arrest or elimination if that was the policy of the coup people.

Thanks for that insight into events. Friends will always be friends.

[insan]

Deniz,

The coup started at dawn on July 15 with simultaneous attempts against the Presidential mansion, RIK, government offices etc. Force was used against targets that were known to be defended, like the police stations, HQ in Nicosia. There were no moves against TCs at this time. The TCs of Kyrenia would have been able to see and know what was going on in the town.

After July 20, the castle was used as a defense point and when the Turkish army arrived in town the BBC news showed the dead bodies of the defenders of the castle who had ran out of ammo and charged with bayonets. There are about a dozen dead soldiers strewn around the castle gate, on July 23 if memory serves. The news clip does not support the allegation of the castle being used as a prison.

During the coup days, July 15-19, "Soft" targets, like hospitals, telephone exchanges etc, were not attacked, in most cases the local EOKA B dudes simply turned up and took control.

My father reported for work on July 15 and in the car park he was met by an EOKA B man, a lawyer, who was surprised to see him. "I thought you people here were on leave" he said. "No, we expected you idiots to come and sign our leave papers" responded my father. He was told it would be better to return home which he did.

Considering that my father had been leading prosecutor of many EOKA B men, he would have been a prime target for arrest or elimination if that was the policy of the coup people.

Nikitas, coupists were not only comprise of irregulars of EOKA-B but more than majority of GC NG(about 13.000) was also under command of Sampson. The question here, weren't there any GC communist HQs or Makarios supporter's HQs in Kyrenia...

If there were, be sure there had been armed conflagration between the pro-coup GC NG and anti-coup GC NG. Most probably there had been casualties on both sides before Turkey intervened but I'm not trying to say that their bodies were collected and burried in that alleged place.

[insan]

Deniz,

The coup started at dawn on July 15 with simultaneous attempts against the Presidential mansion, RIK, government offices etc. Force was used against targets that were known to be defended, like the police stations, HQ in Nicosia. There were no moves against TCs at this time. The TCs of Kyrenia would have been able to see and know what was going on in the town.

After July 20, the castle was used as a defense point and when the Turkish army arrived in town the BBC news showed the dead bodies of the defenders of the castle who had ran out of ammo and charged with bayonets. There are about a dozen dead soldiers strewn around the castle gate, on July 23 if memory serves. The news clip does not support the allegation of the castle being used as a prison.

During the coup days, July 15-19, "Soft" targets, like hospitals, telephone exchanges etc, were not attacked, in most cases the local EOKA B dudes simply turned up and took control.

My father reported for work on July 15 and in the car park he was met by an EOKA B man, a lawyer, who was surprised to see him. "I thought you people here were on leave" he said. "No, we expected you idiots to come and sign our leave papers" responded my father. He was told it would be better to return home which he did.

Considering that my father had been leading prosecutor of many EOKA B men, he would have been a prime target for arrest or elimination if that was the policy of the coup people.

Nikitas, your father and u were very lucky then...

On July 15,1974, during the coup, he was imprisoned by the Greek soldiers of ΕΛΔΥΚ,while on the same day a Greek tank bombarded and blew up his house. His wife and his two sons, 9 years old and 22 months old, respectively, managed to escape through the flames, the explosions and the bullets, but later they were arrested and underwent hardship. The Committee of Resistance Fighters of the Cyprus Ministry of Education and Culture, recorded Andreas and his wife in the Register of Resistance Fighters with S/N 2164 and 2165, respectively, and in a speial ceremobny, the President and the Ministerial Council of Cyprus awarded them "Medals and Diplomas of Resistance'.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Charl ... s_Savvides

[Oracle]

This article has nothing to do with the Lapithos mass graves.

It doesn't even allude to anything remotely connected to fanciful ideas grasped by insan in his continuing desperate attempt to excuse the Turkish regime from allowing the RoC and CMP to assess the contents of the mass grave.

The archives mentioned in this article, are probably things like proposed legislation, and such like, relating to the pre-1974 period.

If, as according to insan and brainless OP, there were hundreds of missing GCs allegedly killed by Greek or other forces pre-1974, then they would have been listed since GC relatives do not forget any missing folks.

[denizaksulu]

Deniz,

The coup started at dawn on July 15 with simultaneous attempts against the Presidential mansion, RIK, government offices etc. Force was used against targets that were known to be defended, like the police stations, HQ in Nicosia. There were no moves against TCs at this time. The TCs of Kyrenia would have been able to see and know what was going on in the town.

After July 20, the castle was used as a defense point and when the Turkish army arrived in town the BBC news showed the dead bodies of the defenders of the castle who had ran out of ammo and charged with bayonets. There are about a dozen dead soldiers strewn around the castle gate, on July 23 if memory serves. The news clip does not support the allegation of the castle being used as a prison.

During the coup days, July 15-19, "Soft" targets, like hospitals, telephone exchanges etc, were not attacked, in most cases the local EOKA B dudes simply turned up and took control.

My father reported for work on July 15 and in the car park he was met by an EOKA B man, a lawyer, who was surprised to see him. "I thought you people here were on leave" he said. "No, we expected you idiots to come and sign our leave papers" responded my father. He was told it would be better to return home which he did.

Considering that my father had been leading prosecutor of many EOKA B men, he would have been a prime target for arrest or elimination if that was the policy of the coup people.

Nikitas, your father and u were very lucky then...

On July 15,1974, during the coup, he was imprisoned by the Greek soldiers of ΕΛΔΥΚ,while on the same day a Greek tank bombarded and blew up his house. His wife and his two sons, 9 years old and 22 months old, respectively, managed to escape through the flames, the explosions and the bullets, but later they were arrested and underwent hardship. The Committee of Resistance Fighters of the Cyprus Ministry of Education and Culture, recorded Andreas and his wife in the Register of Resistance Fighters with S/N 2164 and 2165, respectively, and in a speial ceremobny, the President and the Ministerial Council of Cyprus awarded them "Medals and Diplomas of Resistance'.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Charl ... s_Savvides

Insan, stop posting untruths please

[denizaksulu]

This article has nothing to do with the Lapithos mass graves.

It doesn't even allude to anything remotely connected to fanciful ideas grasped by insan in his continuing desperate attempt to excuse the Turkish regime from allowing the RoC and CMP to assess the contents of the mass grave.

The archives mentioned in this article, are probably things like proposed legislation, and such like, relating to the pre-1974 period.

If, as according to insan and brainless OP, there were hundreds of missing GCs allegedly killed by Greek or other forces pre-1974, then they would have been listed since GC relatives do not forget any missing folks.

Insan is posting the above in re3buttal of Nikitas allegations that no fighting took place between opposing forces during the coup. It has every relevance and is not denying any other killings that did take place. Oracle, dont be in denial.

[Get Real!]

What about the archives belonging to another murderer Grivas. Why are they not available to the CMP?

Just keep in mind that he died about 6 months prior to the Greek coup, in case you were thinking of holding him responsible for July/Aug 1974 casualties...

[insan]

This article has nothing to do with the Lapithos mass graves.

It doesn't even allude to anything remotely connected to fanciful ideas grasped by insan in his continuing desperate attempt to excuse the Turkish regime from allowing the RoC and CMP to assess the contents of the mass grave.

The archives mentioned in this article, are probably things like proposed legislation, and such like, relating to the pre-1974 period.

If, as according to insan and brainless OP, there were hundreds of missing GCs allegedly killed by Greek or other forces pre-1974, then they would have been listed since GC relatives do not forget any missing folks.

Insan is posting the above in re3buttal of Nikitas allegations that no fighting took place between opposing forces during the coup. It has every relevance and is not denying any other killings that did take place. Oracle, dont be in denial.

Exactly! One must be too stupid not to understand the obvious. Is she really?

[YFred]

What about the archives belonging to another murderer Grivas. Why are they not available to the CMP?

Just keep in mind that he died about 6 months prior to the Greek coup, in case you were thinking of holding him responsible for July/Aug 1974 casualties...

Come on, you should know better. I bet (I pray for forgiveness from Allah for betting during Ramazan) that he had in his possession all the plans of the coup in 74 and the fate of the TCs as well as the opposing GCs there after. Why else would they be kept secret from the CMP? Legal EU governments an all? Akritas2?

[Get Real!]

What about the archives belonging to another murderer Grivas. Why are they not available to the CMP?

Just keep in mind that he died about 6 months prior to the Greek coup, in case you were thinking of holding him responsible for July/Aug 1974 casualties...

Come on, you should know better. I bet (I pray for forgiveness from Allah for betting during Ramazan) that he had in his possession all the plans of the coup in 74 and the fate of the TCs as well as the opposing GCs there after. Why else would they be kept secret from the CMP? Legal EU governments an all? Akritas2?

Good luck proving all the above…

I honestly don’t think Grivas is worth much of a mention when it comes to researching the July/Aug events, as the Greek government would’ve pressed on with their schemes with or without him.

In fact, it wasn’t until after his death that they could get their way in Cyprus.