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Postby barouti » Mon Sep 14, 2009 4:51 pm

Expatkiwi wrote:That being said, I should tell you what I told GR once. I met a couple of Turkish tourists a couple of months ago, and while chatting, the topic turned to Cyprus. These Turks (Male, mid-30's) thought I was rather naive to support TRNC independence. They stated that the TRNC is not an end in itself, but a means to an end. They told me that the ultimate goal of Turkey's support of the TRNC is the eventual annexation of TRNC to Turkey, which is what they supported. I express total opposition to that as the mainland Turkification of the TRNC would effectively expunge the Turkish Cypriot identity, just as surely as the Maori overwhelming, and breeding out of the Moriori in the Chatham islands in the 19th Century. This has put me in a quandry: Is my support of TRNC actually supporting it's extinction? Judging from the history of Cyprus since independence, that actually puts the Turkish Cypriots between a rock and a hard place: Hellenization on one side, and Mainland Turkification on the other. So you see the reason why I support the TRNC as a seperate country is simply to ensure the Turkish Cypriot people's survival. What other choice can there be?


Yes, those Turks are more aware of the Cyprus problem then you are. Partition and the proclamation of a pseudo-state were always meant to be a precursor to annexation. That was the aim of Taksim from the 50’s. Both sides know that and yet you, a Kiwi, an outsider from the world’s most isolation nation, dares to differ. Are you even aware that there are more Turkish settlers (that being Anatolian peasants btw) then TC’s in the north? What does that tell you? TC’s are Turks first and Cypriots second. Whilst the Greeks have been on the island since time immemorial, the Turkish presence has only been there for, what is it? 400 years in comparison. That's the difference. The name of their pseudo-state, the symbol of their flag, the plethora of Ataturk portraits and statues, as well as the Turkish settlers confirms they want to be a part of the mother Turkey.

Please, just go watch Flight of the Conchords, as you clearly don’t know what you’re talking about.
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Sep 14, 2009 4:52 pm

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Christine Toskos wrote:As I said before, if the Turkish Cypriot do not like living with decent people of Cyprus, the Greeks.

Greeks and Turks have no place on Cyprus so pack your bags and paddle back to wherever the hell you came from.


What i feel is that people like you have no place in Cyprus since you have appeared in the Island only afrr 60's.
We are here for cenuries and we have fk up many others like you who were foreigners-is much easy for us to defend internal mise problems like yours

I’m of ancient Cypriot Choirokitian origins, whereas you’re just an imported bastardized Cypriot-wannabie… you’re not wanted here unless you’re offering your cheap labour, so what do you do besides talking bullshit? :?
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Postby EPSILON » Mon Sep 14, 2009 4:55 pm

Get Real! wrote:
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Get Real! wrote:
Christine Toskos wrote:As I said before, if the Turkish Cypriot do not like living with decent people of Cyprus, the Greeks.

Greeks and Turks have no place on Cyprus so pack your bags and paddle back to wherever the hell you came from.


What i feel is that people like you have no place in Cyprus since you have appeared in the Island only afrr 60's.
We are here for cenuries and we have fk up many others like you who were foreigners-is much easy for us to defend internal mise problems like yours

I’m of ancient Cypriot Choirokitian origins, whereas you’re just an imported bastardized Cypriot-wannabie… you’re not wanted here unless you’re offering your cheap labour, so what do you do besides talking bullshit? :?


As i know communist or Nazis government has not yet been established in Cyprus therefore pls sh up and lissen
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Postby barouti » Mon Sep 14, 2009 4:56 pm

Get Real! wrote:I’m of ancient Cypriot Choirokitian origins


Would that then make me a Pelasgian?
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Postby EPSILON » Mon Sep 14, 2009 4:59 pm

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Get Real! wrote:I’m of ancient Cypriot Choirokitian origins


Would that then make me a Pelasgian?


No, this just make you, Venetian/Turk/Arab/Brit OPSPORO like GR is
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Sep 14, 2009 4:59 pm

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Get Real! wrote:I’m of ancient Cypriot Choirokitian origins


Would that then make me a Pelasgian?

I wouldn't have a clue about you... ask your parents and grand parents. Epsilon asked his and they informed him that he’s half Greek or some Slavic mongrel combination like that and now he’s trying to convince everyone else that they should be mongrels too! Go figure… :roll:
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Postby EPSILON » Mon Sep 14, 2009 5:01 pm

Get Real! wrote:
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Get Real! wrote:I’m of ancient Cypriot Choirokitian origins


Would that then make me a Pelasgian?

I wouldn't have a clue about you... ask your parents and grand parents. Epsilon asked his and they informed him that he’s half Greek or some Slavic mongrel combination like that and now he’s trying to convince everyone else that they should be mongrels too! Go figure… :roll:


Get out of Cyprus in "angalitsa" with your borthers and sisters "Turks"
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Sep 14, 2009 5:04 pm

EPSILON wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
barouti wrote:
Get Real! wrote:I’m of ancient Cypriot Choirokitian origins


Would that then make me a Pelasgian?

I wouldn't have a clue about you... ask your parents and grand parents. Epsilon asked his and they informed him that he’s half Greek or some Slavic mongrel combination like that and now he’s trying to convince everyone else that they should be mongrels too! Go figure… :roll:


Get out of Cyprus in "angalitsa" with your borthers and sisters "Turks"

Epsilon, you don’t have pure Cypriot blood so what can I possibly do with you other than get you to do my gardening for a pittance? :?
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Postby Expatkiwi » Mon Sep 14, 2009 5:06 pm

barouti wrote:Yes, those Turks are more aware of the Cyprus problem then you are. Partition and the proclamation of a pseudo-state were always meant to be a precursor to annexation. That was the aim of Taksim from the 50’s. Both sides know that and yet you, a Kiwi, an outsider from the world’s most isolation nation, dares to differ. Are you even aware that there are more Turkish settlers (that being Anatolian peasants btw) then TC’s in the north? What does that tell you? TC’s are Turks first and Cypriots second. Whilst the Greeks have been on the island since time immemorial, the Turkish presence has only been there for, what is it? 400 years in comparison. That's the difference. The name of their pseudo-state, the symbol of their flag, the plethora of Ataturk portraits and statues, as well as the Turkish settlers confirms they want to be a part of the mother Turkey.

Please, just go watch Flight of the Conchords, as you clearly don’t know what you’re talking about.


Have you considered that you don't know what you're talking about? As an outsider, I can see things somewhat more detached than you, you know...
In any case, your rather unsurprising statement that this issue does not concern me is rather silly considering that (a) this forum is an open one and thus anyone can come in and form an opinion and (b) the only way for the embargo on the TRNC to work is to keep internationalizing the issue. In short, you need international support of your isolation policy. So who is being hypocritical now?
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Postby EPSILON » Mon Sep 14, 2009 5:06 pm

Get Real! wrote:
EPSILON wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
barouti wrote:
Get Real! wrote:I’m of ancient Cypriot Choirokitian origins


Would that then make me a Pelasgian?

I wouldn't have a clue about you... ask your parents and grand parents. Epsilon asked his and they informed him that he’s half Greek or some Slavic mongrel combination like that and now he’s trying to convince everyone else that they should be mongrels too! Go figure… :roll:


Get out of Cyprus in "angalitsa" with your borthers and sisters "Turks"

Epsilon, you don’t have pure Cypriot blood so what can I possibly do with you other than get you to do my gardening for a pittance? :?


If i can convist you who you are and from where you are coming from i am ready to cooke for you Colokasi every day!!!!
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