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Postby Oracle » Sun Sep 13, 2009 1:27 pm

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Viewpoint wrote:Obviously you have not been to "never never land" so how would you know,


You're wrong. I have been. It's like going back in time.


.... Ottoman times!


How is Latchia spelt using the Greek alphabet, O?


I've never called it Latchia .... I call it Latchi. I guess the nearest would be Λάτση.
(Probably with the accent at the end, but I can't get my keyboard to co-operate).

Anyway, what's your point?


Λάτση? Is it Latsi or Latchi?


I don't possess the hung-ups which you do, about pronunciation. You see, someone like my mum would pronounce it more like "Latsi". But, some horkatisses, like myself, would pronounce it more like "Latchi" .... We get there in the end. :D
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Postby The Cypriot » Sun Sep 13, 2009 2:22 pm

Oracle wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
Oracle wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
Oracle wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Obviously you have not been to "never never land" so how would you know,


You're wrong. I have been. It's like going back in time.


.... Ottoman times!


How is Latchia spelt using the Greek alphabet, O?


I've never called it Latchia .... I call it Latchi. I guess the nearest would be Λάτση.
(Probably with the accent at the end, but I can't get my keyboard to co-operate).

Anyway, what's your point?


Λάτση? Is it Latsi or Latchi?


I don't possess the hung-ups which you do, about pronunciation. You see, someone like my mum would pronounce it more like "Latsi". But, some horkatisses, like myself, would pronounce it more like "Latchi" .... We get there in the end. :D


I gotsia...
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Postby Oracle » Sun Sep 13, 2009 3:21 pm

The Cypriot wrote:
Oracle wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
Oracle wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
Oracle wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Obviously you have not been to "never never land" so how would you know,


You're wrong. I have been. It's like going back in time.


.... Ottoman times!


How is Latchia spelt using the Greek alphabet, O?


I've never called it Latchia .... I call it Latchi. I guess the nearest would be Λάτση.
(Probably with the accent at the end, but I can't get my keyboard to co-operate).

Anyway, what's your point?


Λάτση? Is it Latsi or Latchi?


I don't possess the hung-ups which you do, about pronunciation. You see, someone like my mum would pronounce it more like "Latsi". But, some horkatisses, like myself, would pronounce it more like "Latchi" .... We get there in the end. :D


I gotsia...


Thank you for finally grasping how dialects can co-exist alongside a language ...
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Postby The Cypriot » Sun Sep 13, 2009 3:34 pm

Oracle wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
Oracle wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
Oracle wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
Oracle wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Obviously you have not been to "never never land" so how would you know,


You're wrong. I have been. It's like going back in time.


.... Ottoman times!


How is Latchia spelt using the Greek alphabet, O?


I've never called it Latchia .... I call it Latchi. I guess the nearest would be Λάτση.
(Probably with the accent at the end, but I can't get my keyboard to co-operate).

Anyway, what's your point?


Λάτση? Is it Latsi or Latchi?


I don't possess the hung-ups which you do, about pronunciation. You see, someone like my mum would pronounce it more like "Latsi". But, some horkatisses, like myself, would pronounce it more like "Latchi" .... We get there in the end. :D


I gotsia...


Thank you for finally grasping how dialects can co-exist alongside a language ...


I tsoose not to draw the same tseesy conclusions as you... And don't put yourself down as a horkadissa for pronouncing "Lachi" correctly. You have the potential to be more worthy than that.
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Postby Simon » Sun Sep 13, 2009 3:36 pm

Oracle wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
Oracle wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
Oracle wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
Oracle wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Obviously you have not been to "never never land" so how would you know,


You're wrong. I have been. It's like going back in time.


.... Ottoman times!


How is Latchia spelt using the Greek alphabet, O?


I've never called it Latchia .... I call it Latchi. I guess the nearest would be Λάτση.
(Probably with the accent at the end, but I can't get my keyboard to co-operate).

Anyway, what's your point?


Λάτση? Is it Latsi or Latchi?


I don't possess the hung-ups which you do, about pronunciation. You see, someone like my mum would pronounce it more like "Latsi". But, some horkatisses, like myself, would pronounce it more like "Latchi" .... We get there in the end. :D


I gotsia...


Thank you for finally grasping how dialects can co-exist alongside a language ...


The Cypriot dialect is similar to that of the Dodecanese islands.

I love the dialect. Apparently it is closer to ancient Greek.
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Postby The Cypriot » Sun Sep 13, 2009 3:46 pm

Cypriot is a dialect of ancient rather than modern Greek. So when we use language that's different to that of modern Greece why do we feel the need to describe ourselves as "horkades" - as though we're unworthy, your Beatitude?
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Postby Oracle » Sun Sep 13, 2009 3:58 pm

I describe myself as a horkatissa because I was actually BORN in my horko (reason being that the Brits were bombing the Paphos forest areas and my mum couldn't get to a hospital).

It's the same horko my dad and my grandfather (plus) were born, and so I proudly proclaim myself a horkatissa, in the true sense.

There is NOTHING derogatory about being a horkatissa ...

I wear it with pride :D
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Postby The Cypriot » Sun Sep 13, 2009 4:00 pm

Oracle wrote:I describe myself as a horkatissa because I was actually BORN in my horko (reason being that the Brits were bombing the Paphos forest areas and my mum couldn't get to a hospital).

It's the same horko my dad and my grandfather (plus) were born, and so I proudly proclaim myself a horkatissa, in the true sense.

There is NOTHING derogatory about being a horkatissa ...

I wear it with pride :D


Good for you! You know what I mean though.
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Postby The Cypriot » Tue Sep 15, 2009 7:31 pm

Talat getting desperate...... and FT - and our Barperi friend (bu na gopsi don lemon du) - trying desperately not to offend free Cypriots this time. :wink:


Turkish Cypriot leader gloomy on UN talks

By Tony Barber in Brussels

Published: September 15 2009 13:32 | Last updated: September 15 2009 13:32

United Nations-brokered negotiations to solve the Cyprus problem are making slow progress, increasing the risk that the divided island will never be reunited as a federal state, according to the Turkish Cypriot leader.

“It’s the last chance for a solution,” Mehmet Ali Talat told the Financial Times in an interview on Tuesday. “Time is not in favour of a solution. How many attempts are we going to make, only to fail?”

Mehmet Ali Talat: "I am an optimist, but overall I am not satisfied with the pace we have reached in the talks."

US and European Union officials say that, if the 12-month-old Cyprus talks were to fall apart, it would darken Turkey’s EU membership prospects and damage efforts to construct a closer operational relationship between the EU and Nato.

Mr Talat, president of the self-proclaimed Turkish Cypriot state of northern Cyprus, did not speak of a deadline beyond which continued talks would be futile.

But he suggested that international pressure for a deal was growing, and accused France and Russia – two of the UN Security Council’s five permanent members – of being biased in favour of the Greek Cypriots.

“They are playing quite a negative role. They are not impartial. They are siding with the Greek Cypriots,” Mr Talat said. “Other countries are not in the same line. For example, Germany is more unbiased, and the British are unbiased, compared with France.”

Mr Talat and Demetris Christofias, president of the internationally recognised Greek Cypriot government of Cyprus, opened the talks last September, hoping to end a dispute whose origins predate Cyprus’s independence in 1960.

He said the talks had benefited from his friendship with Mr Christofias, dating to 1995-96, and from the fact that both leaders had a reputation for being sincerely committed to a settlement.

As a result, the talks had produced concrete results on economic and judicial issues, as well as on how Cyprus’s two communities should share their EU responsibilities.

But he said there had been no progress on property disputes related to Turkey’s 1974 invasion of the island, which followed a Greek-inspired coup aimed at uniting Cyprus with Greece. The invasion led to substantial Greek Cypriot losses of property in northern Cyprus.

The property question was so divisive the two leaders had not discussed it in detail during the past 12 months, preferring to leave it until other matters had been resolved, Mr Talat said.

“When we saw that a breakthrough wasn’t possible, we skipped it. Now we’re going to take it up again, maybe in the next few weeks,” Mr Talat said.

“I am an optimist, but overall I am not satisfied with the pace we have reached in the talks. If Talat and Christofias, two pro-solution leaders, are not able to solve the problem, who is going to solve it? That is why I say this is the last chance.”

A UN-sponsored reunification plan, which would have turned Cyprus into a loose federation, was derailed in 2004 when Turkish Cypriots approved it by 65 to 35 per cent in a referendum but Greek Cypriots rejected it by 76 to 24 per cent.

The EU then admitted the Greek Cypriots as the island’s sole representatives, a step that has severely complicated Turkey’s EU accession talks.
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Postby zan » Tue Sep 15, 2009 8:08 pm

Desperate for what? :?
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