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[Me Ed]

F*ck Palalestine, Cyprus is a country with zero resources.

When the revolution comes and there is a scrable for resources, what has Cyprus got to offer?

In the grand scheme, Cyprus is doomed.

The valuable resources of today will be insignificant tomorrow!

I might remind you of the recent coal wars, the old bronze wars and iron wars, and so forth… they were all for nothing because some shortsighted fools thought that a precious resource would be valuable till the end of times!

Surely you people don’t expect to traverse the galaxies while burning crude oil…

Get Rong! you don't speak a load of shite. I have enjoyed our exchanges, but you have truly lost the plot.

I witnessed the queue of tankers outside Limassol harbour, feeding Cyprus' energy needs.

When energy is scarce Cyprus as a country will not be viable.

Even you need to pick your side, and judging from your posts, you are backing a looser.

God bless America.

So you witnessed a queue of tankers in 2009, but what will you witness in 2015 or 2030? You’ll need to expand your view-window when contemplating an answer to that.

Crude oil is at the end of its life cycle, not only in terms of its environmental hazards and sheer inefficiency by today’s standards, but also as you mentioned… its gradual scarcity.

As we speak, there are a number of research centers around the world working towards alternative energy sources because necessity is the mother of invention.

One of these days, the value of crude oil will fall to zero overnight, and those who have invested everything in it will go down with it.

We all live in hope and I hope what we don't see in 2015 and 2030 are humanitarian shipments of food, water and medicine.

... and even you have to admit that apart from a smattering of wind turbines and nuclear power stations, the only place any alternatives are going to come from is that place you love so much, the U.S. of A, but even they have resorted to invading Iraq to feed their energy needs.

[Me Ed]

F*ck Palalestine, Cyprus is a country with zero resources.

When the revolution comes and there is a scrable for resources, what has Cyprus got to offer?

In the grand scheme, Cyprus is doomed.

The valuable resources of today will be insignificant tomorrow!

I might remind you of the recent coal wars, the old bronze wars and iron wars, and so forth… they were all for nothing because some shortsighted fools thought that a precious resource would be valuable till the end of times!

Surely you people don’t expect to traverse the galaxies while burning crude oil…

Get Rong! you don't speak a load of shite. I have enjoyed our exchanges, but you have truly lost the plot.

I witnessed the queue of tankers outside Limassol harbour, feeding Cyprus' energy needs.

When energy is scarce Cyprus as a country will not be viable.

Even you need to pick your side, and judging from your posts, you are backing a looser.

God bless America.

Taking into consideration recent wars I can clearly say that most wars nowadays are focussed around Israel. Cyprus is the closest European country to Israel, so it's positioning is unique. Being part of the this economy, I do not see Cyprus being doomed.

I would also like to remind you that the European Union is currently one of the fastest growing union of countries in the world, drastically changing countries who enter is by ultimately providing a modern way of living, healthcare and a good modern day economy considering the circumstances. We can all live in each other's countries, what a wonderful union.

God Bless the European Union.

Don't make me laugh, when the scrabble for resources starts and climate change kicks in the EU will be the first thing to disintigrate because it relies too much on the US and Russia for its energy and the main powers in the EU are full of self-interest.

As things currently stand at least the TCs have Turkey to rely on, who exactly does the RoC have? Don't make me laugh by even suggesting Greece.

When the time comes, the best thing the RoC can do is beg the UK to recolonise it.

I don't think you know what you are talking about. European Union is one of the safest unions on the planet.

There is no British colonies any more. There is the European Union, and we are in it.

In terms of resources, there is such a thing as alternative fuels, we do not have to burn fossil fuels, and when the time is right, and the money is gathered from those resources the world will convert to them as these alternative methods already exist.

One of the largest oil sellers was the Saudi Arabians, now they understand that resources are low in their area, and have now started to market to tourists. This might give you an indication of how long the old reserves are left.

In terms of oil in the EU, Cyprus does have some form of oil reserve, which is shared by Egypt and Syria. They also found oil in Norway.

When concerning climate change, you have to understand that we have very cold regions as well. So if the end of the world was coming to the European Union we could all move up to Norway or Greenland (as this is protected by Denmark), in order to save humanity, but I am sure such a drastic move would not be necessary.

EU leaders do have their own interests at heart, the European community.

Turkish Cypriots have Cyprus to rely on, not Turkey. Turkey and the Turkish Cypriots are not one of the same, nor to they belong to the same country or government. The Turkish Cypriots belong to the RoC and not to Turkey, if this was the case I am sure Northern Cyprus would look something like Rome.

All move to Greenland! LMFAO

You need a reality check.

Yes the EU leads do have their own interests at heart, their expense claims.

You have confirmed to me that some GCs live in a bubble.

Why do you think the Irish people stuck two fingers up at the new treaty? Self-Interest.

[Sega]

You have confirmed to me that some GCs live in a bubble.

I was not from Cyprus, nor was I born there. I live in the UK most if not all of my life. I feel you have to look at things through a different angle in order to understand things clearly. We will never all move to Greenland, but if it meant we was going to die, believe me, we probably would all move there, as humans do anything to survive.

I have somewhat got tired talking about this matter, I feel you are very arguementative and do not see reason. You cleverly, or not so cleverly as the case maybe, open different arguments, in the attempt to confuse people and persist arguing as this indeed might be your true goal.

I can honestly admin, I do not know Irish affairs, and ever country leader has it's own best interest as heart, whatever that interest maybe, and I am sure the Irish people had their reason for not agreeing with the new treaty, and I respect their decision, I am sure they will eventually reach compromise.

One simple word of advise. I would word things differently. "Sticking to fingers up", rephrase to "Did not agree". Generally with Forums you have to ensure that every word you say is well structured as it can be taken offensively. You are fairly new to this Forum and just a wise word as you are likely to be involved in many arguments simply by the way you word things.

[Sega]

... and even you have to admit that apart from a smattering of wind turbines and nuclear power stations, the only place any alternatives are going to come from is that place you love so much, the U.S. of A, but even they have resorted to invading Iraq to feed their energy needs.

You do not understand how things work. The US consists of somewhat 250 - 300 million people, not really a drastic number considering there are 6 billion people on the planet. The oil taken from the middle east is not to feed the United States own oil needs, but the needs of the rest of the world, as this is sold back to the rest of the world. If you can prove me wrong please do so, I would really be interested to know.

[Me Ed]

... and even you have to admit that apart from a smattering of wind turbines and nuclear power stations, the only place any alternatives are going to come from is that place you love so much, the U.S. of A, but even they have resorted to invading Iraq to feed their energy needs.

You do not understand how things work. The US consists of somewhat 250 - 300 million people, not really a drastic number considering there are 6 billion people on the planet. The oil taken from the middle east is not to feed the United States own oil needs, but the needs of the rest of the world, as this is sold back to the rest of the world. If you can prove me wrong please do so, I would really be interested to know.

Sega, you see arguments like this and your last post really exposes the fact that you are not very bright.

You have unwittingly answered your own argument because not only has the US met its energy needs by invading Iraq but it is using the excess to line the pockets of US corporations.

I'll do a deal with you, don't tell me how to structure my arguments and I won't tell you how to structure yours.

Here's a word of advice, when you are loosing an argument, bow out gracefully, do more research, and then come back.

[Sega]

... and even you have to admit that apart from a smattering of wind turbines and nuclear power stations, the only place any alternatives are going to come from is that place you love so much, the U.S. of A, but even they have resorted to invading Iraq to feed their energy needs.

You do not understand how things work. The US consists of somewhat 250 - 300 million people, not really a drastic number considering there are 6 billion people on the planet. The oil taken from the middle east is not to feed the United States own oil needs, but the needs of the rest of the world, as this is sold back to the rest of the world. If you can prove me wrong please do so, I would really be interested to know.

Sega, you see arguments like this and your last post really exposes the fact that you are not very bright.

You have unwittingly answered your own argument because not only has the US met its energy needs by invading Iraq but it is using the excess to line the pockets of US corporations.

I'll do a deal with you, don't tell me how to structure my arguments and I won't tell you how to structure yours.

Here's a word of advice, when you are loosing an argument, bow out gracefully, do more research, and then come back.

Yep done my research, suppose you were right on the fact that the oil is stored in the US for US purposes, some is sold, but most is stored. I always thought it was sold to the rest of the world, but it looks like it is being saved for a rainy day.