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Postby denizaksulu » Thu Sep 10, 2009 9:39 am

zan wrote:
Oracle wrote:Just great! :roll: ... trust the bloody Turks to implicate Cyprus in the slave trade!

Still, it explains what we have been saying to insan all along ... that the Christians and the Muslims did NOT intermarry or even mix much ...

According to 18th century travel writer Richard Pococke who visited the island on October 24, 1738, black slaves were commonly transferred over from Egypt and sold to the Ottoman Turks in Cyprus. The Turks, according to Pococke would not “suffer them (the Christians) to buy any black slaves”. Their reluctance was because a majority of the slaves were Muslim, and under Islamic Sharia Law they could not be sold to Christians-it would have been unthinkable for a Muslim to be held as a slave by a Christian in a Muslim Empire.


Keeping slave girls was not always for prudent house keeping purposes though; it was not uncommon for a female African slave to be used as a concubine or maintain the role of an inamorata that the family wished to keep a secret.


BTW .... Does anyone have that photo of Zan with that lovely, dark Afro hair ....

Zan wrote:I know Halil but as there is not one GC here that has stood up and said "I'M BLACK AND I'M PROUD" then I don't think they are interested!!!


If you want to complicate matters more then......My hair was not dark...I was blond at birth. Blond and eyes that would change from blue to green. They still do that at times. Now....My wife is blond and all three of my children are blond too......Although my hair turned a light brown colour eventually it seems the dominant gene must be blond. My GC friend who I see a lot of these days.....His is classic Greek with definite Cypriot overtones. Now as for traits......I always rib him about the whereabouts of his mum at a certain date because his "habbits" are more like my dads than any of my dads six children. I have mentioned this before but I saw a docu on Turkmenistan once and there was a village full of my dad with little hats on....The blue/green eyes came from both sides of the family....My nan (maternal) dark dark black hair and blue eyes and short. My other nan.....Light hair and blue eyes. My dad has hazel eyes if I remember right ( will have to look closer next time I see him) and my mum deep brown eyes. My youngest sister is the same colouring as my mum and I used to get slapped by my mum for calling her a "pakkie" when we had fights....70s humour :oops: My eldest sister has my dads lighter hair and skin and was a classic Turkish beauty..She has somehow transformed into the rounded Cypriot woman that we all know and love... :wink: :lol: I have been spoken to in French (with confidence) in France....What...French in France you say..But the guy was convinced that I was French.....Spanish...On the island of Tenerife....Greek....Jewish....But not Black or Asian......

Perhaps Deniz can tell you more about my looks and where he might place me in his mind...That is if he can remember that far back??? :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Talat could have been your uglier twin brother - as far as I remember. I dont know what your wife saw in you though :lol:
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Postby zan » Thu Sep 10, 2009 9:44 am

denizaksulu wrote:
zan wrote:
Oracle wrote:Just great! :roll: ... trust the bloody Turks to implicate Cyprus in the slave trade!

Still, it explains what we have been saying to insan all along ... that the Christians and the Muslims did NOT intermarry or even mix much ...

According to 18th century travel writer Richard Pococke who visited the island on October 24, 1738, black slaves were commonly transferred over from Egypt and sold to the Ottoman Turks in Cyprus. The Turks, according to Pococke would not “suffer them (the Christians) to buy any black slaves”. Their reluctance was because a majority of the slaves were Muslim, and under Islamic Sharia Law they could not be sold to Christians-it would have been unthinkable for a Muslim to be held as a slave by a Christian in a Muslim Empire.


Keeping slave girls was not always for prudent house keeping purposes though; it was not uncommon for a female African slave to be used as a concubine or maintain the role of an inamorata that the family wished to keep a secret.


BTW .... Does anyone have that photo of Zan with that lovely, dark Afro hair ....

Zan wrote:I know Halil but as there is not one GC here that has stood up and said "I'M BLACK AND I'M PROUD" then I don't think they are interested!!!


If you want to complicate matters more then......My hair was not dark...I was blond at birth. Blond and eyes that would change from blue to green. They still do that at times. Now....My wife is blond and all three of my children are blond too......Although my hair turned a light brown colour eventually it seems the dominant gene must be blond. My GC friend who I see a lot of these days.....His is classic Greek with definite Cypriot overtones. Now as for traits......I always rib him about the whereabouts of his mum at a certain date because his "habbits" are more like my dads than any of my dads six children. I have mentioned this before but I saw a docu on Turkmenistan once and there was a village full of my dad with little hats on....The blue/green eyes came from both sides of the family....My nan (maternal) dark dark black hair and blue eyes and short. My other nan.....Light hair and blue eyes. My dad has hazel eyes if I remember right ( will have to look closer next time I see him) and my mum deep brown eyes. My youngest sister is the same colouring as my mum and I used to get slapped by my mum for calling her a "pakkie" when we had fights....70s humour :oops: My eldest sister has my dads lighter hair and skin and was a classic Turkish beauty..She has somehow transformed into the rounded Cypriot woman that we all know and love... :wink: :lol: I have been spoken to in French (with confidence) in France....What...French in France you say..But the guy was convinced that I was French.....Spanish...On the island of Tenerife....Greek....Jewish....But not Black or Asian......

Perhaps Deniz can tell you more about my looks and where he might place me in his mind...That is if he can remember that far back??? :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Talat could have been your uglier twin brother - as far as I remember. I dont know what your wife saw in you though :lol:



Ugly or Uglier :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:


As for my wife.....Potential was probably her first thoughts...Later being replaced by disappointment... :oops: :oops: :lol:
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Postby Oracle » Thu Sep 10, 2009 10:01 am

zan wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
zan wrote:
Oracle wrote:Just great! :roll: ... trust the bloody Turks to implicate Cyprus in the slave trade!

Still, it explains what we have been saying to insan all along ... that the Christians and the Muslims did NOT intermarry or even mix much ...

According to 18th century travel writer Richard Pococke who visited the island on October 24, 1738, black slaves were commonly transferred over from Egypt and sold to the Ottoman Turks in Cyprus. The Turks, according to Pococke would not “suffer them (the Christians) to buy any black slaves”. Their reluctance was because a majority of the slaves were Muslim, and under Islamic Sharia Law they could not be sold to Christians-it would have been unthinkable for a Muslim to be held as a slave by a Christian in a Muslim Empire.


Keeping slave girls was not always for prudent house keeping purposes though; it was not uncommon for a female African slave to be used as a concubine or maintain the role of an inamorata that the family wished to keep a secret.


BTW .... Does anyone have that photo of Zan with that lovely, dark Afro hair ....

Zan wrote:I know Halil but as there is not one GC here that has stood up and said "I'M BLACK AND I'M PROUD" then I don't think they are interested!!!


If you want to complicate matters more then......My hair was not dark...I was blond at birth. Blond and eyes that would change from blue to green. They still do that at times. Now....My wife is blond and all three of my children are blond too......Although my hair turned a light brown colour eventually it seems the dominant gene must be blond. My GC friend who I see a lot of these days.....His is classic Greek with definite Cypriot overtones. Now as for traits......I always rib him about the whereabouts of his mum at a certain date because his "habbits" are more like my dads than any of my dads six children. I have mentioned this before but I saw a docu on Turkmenistan once and there was a village full of my dad with little hats on....The blue/green eyes came from both sides of the family....My nan (maternal) dark dark black hair and blue eyes and short. My other nan.....Light hair and blue eyes. My dad has hazel eyes if I remember right ( will have to look closer next time I see him) and my mum deep brown eyes. My youngest sister is the same colouring as my mum and I used to get slapped by my mum for calling her a "pakkie" when we had fights....70s humour :oops: My eldest sister has my dads lighter hair and skin and was a classic Turkish beauty..She has somehow transformed into the rounded Cypriot woman that we all know and love... :wink: :lol: I have been spoken to in French (with confidence) in France....What...French in France you say..But the guy was convinced that I was French.....Spanish...On the island of Tenerife....Greek....Jewish....But not Black or Asian......

Perhaps Deniz can tell you more about my looks and where he might place me in his mind...That is if he can remember that far back??? :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Talat could have been your uglier twin brother - as far as I remember. I dont know what your wife saw in you though :lol:



Ugly or Uglier :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:


As for my wife.....Potential was probably her first thoughts...Later being replaced by disappointment... :oops: :oops: :lol:


Hey Zan ... take it easy! :D I'm the last person to notice what anyone looks like ... or care (but the duskier the better; unless they look like Kevin Costner 8) ).

All your descriptions have morphed into one and I have a vision of you as having one green eye and one blue eye, bald like Kojak, rounded Cypriot features like Jo Brand, you look like Napoleon when in France and Salvador Dali when in Spain .... :?
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Postby denizaksulu » Thu Sep 10, 2009 10:08 am

zan wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
zan wrote:
Oracle wrote:Just great! :roll: ... trust the bloody Turks to implicate Cyprus in the slave trade!

Still, it explains what we have been saying to insan all along ... that the Christians and the Muslims did NOT intermarry or even mix much ...

According to 18th century travel writer Richard Pococke who visited the island on October 24, 1738, black slaves were commonly transferred over from Egypt and sold to the Ottoman Turks in Cyprus. The Turks, according to Pococke would not “suffer them (the Christians) to buy any black slaves”. Their reluctance was because a majority of the slaves were Muslim, and under Islamic Sharia Law they could not be sold to Christians-it would have been unthinkable for a Muslim to be held as a slave by a Christian in a Muslim Empire.


Keeping slave girls was not always for prudent house keeping purposes though; it was not uncommon for a female African slave to be used as a concubine or maintain the role of an inamorata that the family wished to keep a secret.


BTW .... Does anyone have that photo of Zan with that lovely, dark Afro hair ....

Zan wrote:I know Halil but as there is not one GC here that has stood up and said "I'M BLACK AND I'M PROUD" then I don't think they are interested!!!


If you want to complicate matters more then......My hair was not dark...I was blond at birth. Blond and eyes that would change from blue to green. They still do that at times. Now....My wife is blond and all three of my children are blond too......Although my hair turned a light brown colour eventually it seems the dominant gene must be blond. My GC friend who I see a lot of these days.....His is classic Greek with definite Cypriot overtones. Now as for traits......I always rib him about the whereabouts of his mum at a certain date because his "habbits" are more like my dads than any of my dads six children. I have mentioned this before but I saw a docu on Turkmenistan once and there was a village full of my dad with little hats on....The blue/green eyes came from both sides of the family....My nan (maternal) dark dark black hair and blue eyes and short. My other nan.....Light hair and blue eyes. My dad has hazel eyes if I remember right ( will have to look closer next time I see him) and my mum deep brown eyes. My youngest sister is the same colouring as my mum and I used to get slapped by my mum for calling her a "pakkie" when we had fights....70s humour :oops: My eldest sister has my dads lighter hair and skin and was a classic Turkish beauty..She has somehow transformed into the rounded Cypriot woman that we all know and love... :wink: :lol: I have been spoken to in French (with confidence) in France....What...French in France you say..But the guy was convinced that I was French.....Spanish...On the island of Tenerife....Greek....Jewish....But not Black or Asian......

Perhaps Deniz can tell you more about my looks and where he might place me in his mind...That is if he can remember that far back??? :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Talat could have been your uglier twin brother - as far as I remember. I dont know what your wife saw in you though :lol:



Ugly or Uglier :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:


As for my wife.....Potential was probably her first thoughts...Later being replaced by disappointment... :oops: :oops: :lol:



Anyway, for accuaracy, you do look Cypriot, there is no doubt about that. More like a Greek speaking Cypriot - as you do not look Mongoloid. :lol:
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Postby Oracle » Thu Sep 10, 2009 10:14 am

Time to bring out the Melting Pot and remind everyone it's their behaviour which marks them out as a "type" of Human, not their many (all lovely) technicolour pigmentations ....


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Postby Simon » Thu Sep 10, 2009 2:11 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
zan wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
zan wrote:
Oracle wrote:Just great! :roll: ... trust the bloody Turks to implicate Cyprus in the slave trade!

Still, it explains what we have been saying to insan all along ... that the Christians and the Muslims did NOT intermarry or even mix much ...

According to 18th century travel writer Richard Pococke who visited the island on October 24, 1738, black slaves were commonly transferred over from Egypt and sold to the Ottoman Turks in Cyprus. The Turks, according to Pococke would not “suffer them (the Christians) to buy any black slaves”. Their reluctance was because a majority of the slaves were Muslim, and under Islamic Sharia Law they could not be sold to Christians-it would have been unthinkable for a Muslim to be held as a slave by a Christian in a Muslim Empire.


Keeping slave girls was not always for prudent house keeping purposes though; it was not uncommon for a female African slave to be used as a concubine or maintain the role of an inamorata that the family wished to keep a secret.


BTW .... Does anyone have that photo of Zan with that lovely, dark Afro hair ....

Zan wrote:I know Halil but as there is not one GC here that has stood up and said "I'M BLACK AND I'M PROUD" then I don't think they are interested!!!


If you want to complicate matters more then......My hair was not dark...I was blond at birth. Blond and eyes that would change from blue to green. They still do that at times. Now....My wife is blond and all three of my children are blond too......Although my hair turned a light brown colour eventually it seems the dominant gene must be blond. My GC friend who I see a lot of these days.....His is classic Greek with definite Cypriot overtones. Now as for traits......I always rib him about the whereabouts of his mum at a certain date because his "habbits" are more like my dads than any of my dads six children. I have mentioned this before but I saw a docu on Turkmenistan once and there was a village full of my dad with little hats on....The blue/green eyes came from both sides of the family....My nan (maternal) dark dark black hair and blue eyes and short. My other nan.....Light hair and blue eyes. My dad has hazel eyes if I remember right ( will have to look closer next time I see him) and my mum deep brown eyes. My youngest sister is the same colouring as my mum and I used to get slapped by my mum for calling her a "pakkie" when we had fights....70s humour :oops: My eldest sister has my dads lighter hair and skin and was a classic Turkish beauty..She has somehow transformed into the rounded Cypriot woman that we all know and love... :wink: :lol: I have been spoken to in French (with confidence) in France....What...French in France you say..But the guy was convinced that I was French.....Spanish...On the island of Tenerife....Greek....Jewish....But not Black or Asian......

Perhaps Deniz can tell you more about my looks and where he might place me in his mind...That is if he can remember that far back??? :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Talat could have been your uglier twin brother - as far as I remember. I dont know what your wife saw in you though :lol:



Ugly or Uglier :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:


As for my wife.....Potential was probably her first thoughts...Later being replaced by disappointment... :oops: :oops: :lol:



Anyway, for accuaracy, you do look Cypriot, there is no doubt about that. More like a Greek speaking Cypriot - as you do not look Mongoloid. :lol:


Zan is probably one of those GCs that converted to Islam like VP. :lol:
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Postby denizaksulu » Thu Sep 10, 2009 2:21 pm

Simon wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
zan wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
zan wrote:
Oracle wrote:Just great! :roll: ... trust the bloody Turks to implicate Cyprus in the slave trade!

Still, it explains what we have been saying to insan all along ... that the Christians and the Muslims did NOT intermarry or even mix much ...

According to 18th century travel writer Richard Pococke who visited the island on October 24, 1738, black slaves were commonly transferred over from Egypt and sold to the Ottoman Turks in Cyprus. The Turks, according to Pococke would not “suffer them (the Christians) to buy any black slaves”. Their reluctance was because a majority of the slaves were Muslim, and under Islamic Sharia Law they could not be sold to Christians-it would have been unthinkable for a Muslim to be held as a slave by a Christian in a Muslim Empire.


Keeping slave girls was not always for prudent house keeping purposes though; it was not uncommon for a female African slave to be used as a concubine or maintain the role of an inamorata that the family wished to keep a secret.


BTW .... Does anyone have that photo of Zan with that lovely, dark Afro hair ....

Zan wrote:I know Halil but as there is not one GC here that has stood up and said "I'M BLACK AND I'M PROUD" then I don't think they are interested!!!


If you want to complicate matters more then......My hair was not dark...I was blond at birth. Blond and eyes that would change from blue to green. They still do that at times. Now....My wife is blond and all three of my children are blond too......Although my hair turned a light brown colour eventually it seems the dominant gene must be blond. My GC friend who I see a lot of these days.....His is classic Greek with definite Cypriot overtones. Now as for traits......I always rib him about the whereabouts of his mum at a certain date because his "habbits" are more like my dads than any of my dads six children. I have mentioned this before but I saw a docu on Turkmenistan once and there was a village full of my dad with little hats on....The blue/green eyes came from both sides of the family....My nan (maternal) dark dark black hair and blue eyes and short. My other nan.....Light hair and blue eyes. My dad has hazel eyes if I remember right ( will have to look closer next time I see him) and my mum deep brown eyes. My youngest sister is the same colouring as my mum and I used to get slapped by my mum for calling her a "pakkie" when we had fights....70s humour :oops: My eldest sister has my dads lighter hair and skin and was a classic Turkish beauty..She has somehow transformed into the rounded Cypriot woman that we all know and love... :wink: :lol: I have been spoken to in French (with confidence) in France....What...French in France you say..But the guy was convinced that I was French.....Spanish...On the island of Tenerife....Greek....Jewish....But not Black or Asian......

Perhaps Deniz can tell you more about my looks and where he might place me in his mind...That is if he can remember that far back??? :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Talat could have been your uglier twin brother - as far as I remember. I dont know what your wife saw in you though :lol:



Ugly or Uglier :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:


As for my wife.....Potential was probably her first thoughts...Later being replaced by disappointment... :oops: :oops: :lol:



Anyway, for accuaracy, you do look Cypriot, there is no doubt about that. More like a Greek speaking Cypriot - as you do not look Mongoloid. :lol:


Zan is probably one of those GCs that converted to Islam like VP. :lol:



It is unfortunate that none of us - Greek or Turkish Cyps can prove one way or the other. :lol: We can but only guess.
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Postby YFred » Thu Sep 10, 2009 2:24 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Simon wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
zan wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
zan wrote:
Oracle wrote:Just great! :roll: ... trust the bloody Turks to implicate Cyprus in the slave trade!

Still, it explains what we have been saying to insan all along ... that the Christians and the Muslims did NOT intermarry or even mix much ...

According to 18th century travel writer Richard Pococke who visited the island on October 24, 1738, black slaves were commonly transferred over from Egypt and sold to the Ottoman Turks in Cyprus. The Turks, according to Pococke would not “suffer them (the Christians) to buy any black slaves”. Their reluctance was because a majority of the slaves were Muslim, and under Islamic Sharia Law they could not be sold to Christians-it would have been unthinkable for a Muslim to be held as a slave by a Christian in a Muslim Empire.


Keeping slave girls was not always for prudent house keeping purposes though; it was not uncommon for a female African slave to be used as a concubine or maintain the role of an inamorata that the family wished to keep a secret.


BTW .... Does anyone have that photo of Zan with that lovely, dark Afro hair ....

Zan wrote:I know Halil but as there is not one GC here that has stood up and said "I'M BLACK AND I'M PROUD" then I don't think they are interested!!!


If you want to complicate matters more then......My hair was not dark...I was blond at birth. Blond and eyes that would change from blue to green. They still do that at times. Now....My wife is blond and all three of my children are blond too......Although my hair turned a light brown colour eventually it seems the dominant gene must be blond. My GC friend who I see a lot of these days.....His is classic Greek with definite Cypriot overtones. Now as for traits......I always rib him about the whereabouts of his mum at a certain date because his "habbits" are more like my dads than any of my dads six children. I have mentioned this before but I saw a docu on Turkmenistan once and there was a village full of my dad with little hats on....The blue/green eyes came from both sides of the family....My nan (maternal) dark dark black hair and blue eyes and short. My other nan.....Light hair and blue eyes. My dad has hazel eyes if I remember right ( will have to look closer next time I see him) and my mum deep brown eyes. My youngest sister is the same colouring as my mum and I used to get slapped by my mum for calling her a "pakkie" when we had fights....70s humour :oops: My eldest sister has my dads lighter hair and skin and was a classic Turkish beauty..She has somehow transformed into the rounded Cypriot woman that we all know and love... :wink: :lol: I have been spoken to in French (with confidence) in France....What...French in France you say..But the guy was convinced that I was French.....Spanish...On the island of Tenerife....Greek....Jewish....But not Black or Asian......

Perhaps Deniz can tell you more about my looks and where he might place me in his mind...That is if he can remember that far back??? :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Talat could have been your uglier twin brother - as far as I remember. I dont know what your wife saw in you though :lol:



Ugly or Uglier :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:


As for my wife.....Potential was probably her first thoughts...Later being replaced by disappointment... :oops: :oops: :lol:



Anyway, for accuaracy, you do look Cypriot, there is no doubt about that. More like a Greek speaking Cypriot - as you do not look Mongoloid. :lol:


Zan is probably one of those GCs that converted to Islam like VP. :lol:



It is unfortunate that none of us - Greek or Turkish Cyps can prove one way or the other. :lol: We can but only guess.

You can guess all you like, I am the Real McCoy and I have the hat to prove it. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby denizaksulu » Thu Sep 10, 2009 2:27 pm

YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Simon wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
zan wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
zan wrote:
Oracle wrote:Just great! :roll: ... trust the bloody Turks to implicate Cyprus in the slave trade!

Still, it explains what we have been saying to insan all along ... that the Christians and the Muslims did NOT intermarry or even mix much ...

According to 18th century travel writer Richard Pococke who visited the island on October 24, 1738, black slaves were commonly transferred over from Egypt and sold to the Ottoman Turks in Cyprus. The Turks, according to Pococke would not “suffer them (the Christians) to buy any black slaves”. Their reluctance was because a majority of the slaves were Muslim, and under Islamic Sharia Law they could not be sold to Christians-it would have been unthinkable for a Muslim to be held as a slave by a Christian in a Muslim Empire.


Keeping slave girls was not always for prudent house keeping purposes though; it was not uncommon for a female African slave to be used as a concubine or maintain the role of an inamorata that the family wished to keep a secret.


BTW .... Does anyone have that photo of Zan with that lovely, dark Afro hair ....

Zan wrote:I know Halil but as there is not one GC here that has stood up and said "I'M BLACK AND I'M PROUD" then I don't think they are interested!!!


If you want to complicate matters more then......My hair was not dark...I was blond at birth. Blond and eyes that would change from blue to green. They still do that at times. Now....My wife is blond and all three of my children are blond too......Although my hair turned a light brown colour eventually it seems the dominant gene must be blond. My GC friend who I see a lot of these days.....His is classic Greek with definite Cypriot overtones. Now as for traits......I always rib him about the whereabouts of his mum at a certain date because his "habbits" are more like my dads than any of my dads six children. I have mentioned this before but I saw a docu on Turkmenistan once and there was a village full of my dad with little hats on....The blue/green eyes came from both sides of the family....My nan (maternal) dark dark black hair and blue eyes and short. My other nan.....Light hair and blue eyes. My dad has hazel eyes if I remember right ( will have to look closer next time I see him) and my mum deep brown eyes. My youngest sister is the same colouring as my mum and I used to get slapped by my mum for calling her a "pakkie" when we had fights....70s humour :oops: My eldest sister has my dads lighter hair and skin and was a classic Turkish beauty..She has somehow transformed into the rounded Cypriot woman that we all know and love... :wink: :lol: I have been spoken to in French (with confidence) in France....What...French in France you say..But the guy was convinced that I was French.....Spanish...On the island of Tenerife....Greek....Jewish....But not Black or Asian......

Perhaps Deniz can tell you more about my looks and where he might place me in his mind...That is if he can remember that far back??? :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Talat could have been your uglier twin brother - as far as I remember. I dont know what your wife saw in you though :lol:



Ugly or Uglier :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:


As for my wife.....Potential was probably her first thoughts...Later being replaced by disappointment... :oops: :oops: :lol:



Anyway, for accuaracy, you do look Cypriot, there is no doubt about that. More like a Greek speaking Cypriot - as you do not look Mongoloid. :lol:


Zan is probably one of those GCs that converted to Islam like VP. :lol:



It is unfortunate that none of us - Greek or Turkish Cyps can prove one way or the other. :lol: We can but only guess.

You can guess all you like, I am the Real McCoy and I have the hat to prove it. :lol: :lol: :lol:



Its not that Gondoliers hat you wore last Christmas, is it? :lol: :lol:
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Postby YFred » Thu Sep 10, 2009 2:29 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
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denizaksulu wrote:
zan wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
zan wrote:
Oracle wrote:Just great! :roll: ... trust the bloody Turks to implicate Cyprus in the slave trade!

Still, it explains what we have been saying to insan all along ... that the Christians and the Muslims did NOT intermarry or even mix much ...

According to 18th century travel writer Richard Pococke who visited the island on October 24, 1738, black slaves were commonly transferred over from Egypt and sold to the Ottoman Turks in Cyprus. The Turks, according to Pococke would not “suffer them (the Christians) to buy any black slaves”. Their reluctance was because a majority of the slaves were Muslim, and under Islamic Sharia Law they could not be sold to Christians-it would have been unthinkable for a Muslim to be held as a slave by a Christian in a Muslim Empire.


Keeping slave girls was not always for prudent house keeping purposes though; it was not uncommon for a female African slave to be used as a concubine or maintain the role of an inamorata that the family wished to keep a secret.


BTW .... Does anyone have that photo of Zan with that lovely, dark Afro hair ....

Zan wrote:I know Halil but as there is not one GC here that has stood up and said "I'M BLACK AND I'M PROUD" then I don't think they are interested!!!


If you want to complicate matters more then......My hair was not dark...I was blond at birth. Blond and eyes that would change from blue to green. They still do that at times. Now....My wife is blond and all three of my children are blond too......Although my hair turned a light brown colour eventually it seems the dominant gene must be blond. My GC friend who I see a lot of these days.....His is classic Greek with definite Cypriot overtones. Now as for traits......I always rib him about the whereabouts of his mum at a certain date because his "habbits" are more like my dads than any of my dads six children. I have mentioned this before but I saw a docu on Turkmenistan once and there was a village full of my dad with little hats on....The blue/green eyes came from both sides of the family....My nan (maternal) dark dark black hair and blue eyes and short. My other nan.....Light hair and blue eyes. My dad has hazel eyes if I remember right ( will have to look closer next time I see him) and my mum deep brown eyes. My youngest sister is the same colouring as my mum and I used to get slapped by my mum for calling her a "pakkie" when we had fights....70s humour :oops: My eldest sister has my dads lighter hair and skin and was a classic Turkish beauty..She has somehow transformed into the rounded Cypriot woman that we all know and love... :wink: :lol: I have been spoken to in French (with confidence) in France....What...French in France you say..But the guy was convinced that I was French.....Spanish...On the island of Tenerife....Greek....Jewish....But not Black or Asian......

Perhaps Deniz can tell you more about my looks and where he might place me in his mind...That is if he can remember that far back??? :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Talat could have been your uglier twin brother - as far as I remember. I dont know what your wife saw in you though :lol:



Ugly or Uglier :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:


As for my wife.....Potential was probably her first thoughts...Later being replaced by disappointment... :oops: :oops: :lol:



Anyway, for accuaracy, you do look Cypriot, there is no doubt about that. More like a Greek speaking Cypriot - as you do not look Mongoloid. :lol:


Zan is probably one of those GCs that converted to Islam like VP. :lol:



It is unfortunate that none of us - Greek or Turkish Cyps can prove one way or the other. :lol: We can but only guess.

You can guess all you like, I am the Real McCoy and I have the hat to prove it. :lol: :lol: :lol:



Its not that Gondoliers hat you wore last Christmas, is it? :lol: :lol:

na, they've gonetosomewhereelse :lol: :lol: :lol:
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