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Postby YFred » Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:48 pm

insan wrote:http://www.havadiskibris.com/ArticleDetails.aspx?aid=590

History of Lurucina village. It is said that it was an Lusignan village in the beginning.

He would say that, he is another well known Lurucadi but not a Yfred clan I am afraid.
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Postby The Cypriot » Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:49 pm

insan wrote:http://www.havadiskibris.com/ArticleDetails.aspx?aid=590

History of Lurucina village. It is said that it was an Lusignan village in the beginning.


Can you translate? I can't read Italian... or is it French?
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Postby YFred » Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:51 pm

halil wrote:
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halil wrote:ok in here TC's ,GC's and Armenian Cypriots are together.

picture is taken from our Buyukhan Coffee club album .

Every saturday we are here for coffee.


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Halil, I sat at that very table last year with your X boss one sturday morning. They had live music wine, soft drinks and sweets. It was very nice, but they didn't have to do all that for me, just a coffee would have done :lol: :lol: :lol:


In here every saturday around eleven o'clock we are meeting . TC's,GC's,
Armenian Cypriots and settlers are meeting regularly .We don't care what the others thinks .everyday our group is increasing .

Halil, we are all Cypriots.
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Postby The Cypriot » Thu Sep 10, 2009 12:01 am

yialousa1971 wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
yialousa1971 wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:This is an interesting article by journalist Alkan Chaglar on African slavery in Cyprus, shedding some light on the island's dark past...

http://www.toplumpostasi.net/printa.php?col=85&art=1113

According to 18th century travel writer Richard Pococke who visited the island on October 24, 1738, black slaves were commonly transferred over from Egypt and sold to the Ottoman Turks in Cyprus...

...in Cyprus Africans despite being small in number rose to prominent positions ... and assimilated into the Turkish Cypriot community, creating a sizeable mixed race population today...

Cyprus’ history of slavery may be taboo for some, it certainly cannot be justified morally but it is nonetheless an important ingredient in the Turkish Cypriot heritage...

Colour conscious Cypriots whose eyes are gazed firmly towards Europe should note that Cyprus is closer to Africa than either Genoa or Venice.


They are called Afro Turks and they were Muslims. So as Muslims marry Muslims they entered the Turkish gene pool. Simple isn't it, you should address your concerns to the Turkish Cypriots here not to me.



I understand your issues with 'Turks' but what is your problem with 'blacks'? Do you belong to the KKK? Your above remark shows that you are inclined to have racist tendencies.


Talk to the hand as they say.


What good will that do - when you're talking out of your arse...? as they say.
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Postby yialousa1971 » Thu Sep 10, 2009 12:05 am

The Cypriot wrote:
yialousa1971 wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
yialousa1971 wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:This is an interesting article by journalist Alkan Chaglar on African slavery in Cyprus, shedding some light on the island's dark past...

http://www.toplumpostasi.net/printa.php?col=85&art=1113

According to 18th century travel writer Richard Pococke who visited the island on October 24, 1738, black slaves were commonly transferred over from Egypt and sold to the Ottoman Turks in Cyprus...

...in Cyprus Africans despite being small in number rose to prominent positions ... and assimilated into the Turkish Cypriot community, creating a sizeable mixed race population today...

Cyprus’ history of slavery may be taboo for some, it certainly cannot be justified morally but it is nonetheless an important ingredient in the Turkish Cypriot heritage...

Colour conscious Cypriots whose eyes are gazed firmly towards Europe should note that Cyprus is closer to Africa than either Genoa or Venice.


They are called Afro Turks and they were Muslims. So as Muslims marry Muslims they entered the Turkish gene pool. Simple isn't it, you should address your concerns to the Turkish Cypriots here not to me.



I understand your issues with 'Turks' but what is your problem with 'blacks'? Do you belong to the KKK? Your above remark shows that you are inclined to have racist tendencies.


Talk to the hand as they say.


What good will that do - when your talking out of your arse...? as they say.


Thats something you do very well, talking out of your arse. :lol:
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Postby Floda » Thu Sep 10, 2009 12:26 am

yialousa1971 wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
yialousa1971 wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
yialousa1971 wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:This is an interesting article by journalist Alkan Chaglar on African slavery in Cyprus, shedding some light on the island's dark past...

http://www.toplumpostasi.net/printa.php?col=85&art=1113

According to 18th century travel writer Richard Pococke who visited the island on October 24, 1738, black slaves were commonly transferred over from Egypt and sold to the Ottoman Turks in Cyprus...

...in Cyprus Africans despite being small in number rose to prominent positions ... and assimilated into the Turkish Cypriot community, creating a sizeable mixed race population today...

Cyprus’ history of slavery may be taboo for some, it certainly cannot be justified morally but it is nonetheless an important ingredient in the Turkish Cypriot heritage...

Colour conscious Cypriots whose eyes are gazed firmly towards Europe should note that Cyprus is closer to Africa than either Genoa or Venice.


They are called Afro Turks and they were Muslims. So as Muslims marry Muslims they entered the Turkish gene pool. Simple isn't it, you should address your concerns to the Turkish Cypriots here not to me.



I understand your issues with 'Turks' but what is your problem with 'blacks'? Do you belong to the KKK? Your above remark shows that you are inclined to have racist tendencies.


Talk to the hand as they say.


What good will that do - when your talking out of your arse...? as they say.


Thats something you do very well, talking out of your arse. :lol:


Actually there was once a famous Opera singer who could sing out of his arse and he was to appear before Her Maj The Queen at Albert Hall in London.

In order to present the show, A hole was cut in the stage curtain and the idea was that the singer should stick his arse out through it in order to save Her Maj any embarrassment.

The spotlight was on the hole in the curtain and the singer's arse duly appeared as the orchestra struck up the music.

Unfortunately, the singer suddenly farted and shit on the stage, the arse disappeared for a moment and the singer's face appeared through the hole.

"I do beg your pardon your Majesty" said he "I was just clearing my throat !" :lol: :wink:
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Postby Get Real! » Thu Sep 10, 2009 12:29 am

halil wrote:In here every saturday around eleven o'clock we are meeting . TC's,GC's, Armenian Cypriots and settlers are meeting regularly .We don't care what the others thinks .everyday our group is increasing .

I don’t know if you can keep up with the chairs… at the rate that these settlers are coming! :lol:
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Postby halil » Thu Sep 10, 2009 6:52 am

Get Real! wrote:
halil wrote:In here every saturday around eleven o'clock we are meeting . TC's,GC's, Armenian Cypriots and settlers are meeting regularly .We don't care what the others thinks .everyday our group is increasing .

I don’t know if you can keep up with the chairs… at the rate that these settlers are coming! :lol:


If u don't join us they can get your place . every passing days working against u .
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Postby zan » Thu Sep 10, 2009 9:28 am

Oracle wrote:Just great! :roll: ... trust the bloody Turks to implicate Cyprus in the slave trade!

Still, it explains what we have been saying to insan all along ... that the Christians and the Muslims did NOT intermarry or even mix much ...

According to 18th century travel writer Richard Pococke who visited the island on October 24, 1738, black slaves were commonly transferred over from Egypt and sold to the Ottoman Turks in Cyprus. The Turks, according to Pococke would not “suffer them (the Christians) to buy any black slaves”. Their reluctance was because a majority of the slaves were Muslim, and under Islamic Sharia Law they could not be sold to Christians-it would have been unthinkable for a Muslim to be held as a slave by a Christian in a Muslim Empire.


Keeping slave girls was not always for prudent house keeping purposes though; it was not uncommon for a female African slave to be used as a concubine or maintain the role of an inamorata that the family wished to keep a secret.


BTW .... Does anyone have that photo of Zan with that lovely, dark Afro hair ....

Zan wrote:I know Halil but as there is not one GC here that has stood up and said "I'M BLACK AND I'M PROUD" then I don't think they are interested!!!


If you want to complicate matters more then......My hair was not dark...I was blond at birth. Blond and eyes that would change from blue to green. They still do that at times. Now....My wife is blond and all three of my children are blond too......Although my hair turned a light brown colour eventually it seems the dominant gene must be blond. My GC friend who I see a lot of these days.....His is classic Greek with definite Cypriot overtones. Now as for traits......I always rib him about the whereabouts of his mum at a certain date because his "habbits" are more like my dads than any of my dads six children. I have mentioned this before but I saw a docu on Turkmenistan once and there was a village full of my dad with little hats on....The blue/green eyes came from both sides of the family....My nan (maternal) dark dark black hair and blue eyes and short. My other nan.....Light hair and blue eyes. My dad has hazel eyes if I remember right ( will have to look closer next time I see him) and my mum deep brown eyes. My youngest sister is the same colouring as my mum and I used to get slapped by my mum for calling her a "pakkie" when we had fights....70s humour :oops: My eldest sister has my dads lighter hair and skin and was a classic Turkish beauty..She has somehow transformed into the rounded Cypriot woman that we all know and love... :wink: :lol: I have been spoken to in French (with confidence) in France....What...French in France you say..But the guy was convinced that I was French.....Spanish...On the island of Tenerife....Greek....Jewish....But not Black or Asian......

Perhaps Deniz can tell you more about my looks and where he might place me in his mind...That is if he can remember that far back??? :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby denizaksulu » Thu Sep 10, 2009 9:30 am

Oracle wrote:The Turks are Venetians all of a sudden! :lol:



All of a sudden? Where have you been Oracle? :lol: We know fromwhere we hail. Its you (pl) who have doubts. :wink:
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