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Postby insan » Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:22 pm

YFred wrote:
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YFred wrote:
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The Cypriot wrote:This is an interesting article by journalist Alkan Chaglar on African slavery in Cyprus, shedding some light on the island's dark past...

http://www.toplumpostasi.net/printa.php?col=85&art=1113

According to 18th century travel writer Richard Pococke who visited the island on October 24, 1738, black slaves were commonly transferred over from Egypt and sold to the Ottoman Turks in Cyprus...

...in Cyprus Africans despite being small in number rose to prominent positions ... and assimilated into the Turkish Cypriot community, creating a sizeable mixed race population today...

Cyprus’ history of slavery may be taboo for some, it certainly cannot be justified morally but it is nonetheless an important ingredient in the Turkish Cypriot heritage...

Colour conscious Cypriots whose eyes are gazed firmly towards Europe should note that Cyprus is closer to Africa than either Genoa or Venice.



My cousins in Kophinou had indeed been 'suckled' by a 'süt nine'. Hasanagi or Yfred may know the family. We all called her 'Kara nene', which translates as 'black grandmother'. It was in no way considered as being a derogatory term. Kara nene was highly respected. We were not allowed to speak to her unless we had paid our due respects by the traditional way of kissing the hand and placing it on our forehead. She was well respected by the whole village. I last saw her as a refugee after 1974 in Trikomo. Though blind by then she remembered my voice. When she died a few years later, it was said that she was 110 years old. RIP Gara nene.

Sorry I didn't know here but may she rest in peace.
We had several black people in the village who were very dark and one actually looked African. Our head teacher was also black. There was no animosity at all towards them. It's only when I came to London that I saw racism within the Cypriots community.


My step grandma looked like an African and her husband was a blue eyed, blonde Luricadi Hüseyin Dede; aka Hüseyin Gangrello. Maybe someone from YFred Clan knows him. Both RIP several years ago. :cry:



I did know an Iseyin dede. He was my grand dad. Also known as Muhtar dede. :lol:

His lakap was 'white' (Aspru)

The name Aspru seems familiar. When did he leave Lurucina?


Janlu che prende il posto di Gangrello Ancestor Quader Air Jordan ps: io posso prenotare per un altro... quindi chi tardi arriva... tardi arriva! ...


It sounds like gangrello is an Italian word... sure my Luricadi grandad was a Venetian.

Sure, I met a venetian the other day that had the same surname as me. I also have a Venetian neighbour who swears that I look just like her uncle in Venice. All Lurucadis are Venetian it is believed. There is no proof, unfortunately the birth certificates in Lefkosa burned.


As far as I know, most of the Luricadis r blonde and blue eyed but most of the Italians r brunette. :? Luricadis might be Russian Turks. :lol:
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Postby YFred » Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:22 pm

halil wrote:ok in here TC's ,GC's and Armenian Cypriots are together.

picture is taken from our Buyukhan Coffee club album .

Every saturday we are here for coffee.


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Halil, I sat at that very table last year with your X boss one sturday morning. They had live music wine, soft drinks and sweets. It was very nice, but they didn't have to do all that for me, just a coffee would have done :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby halil » Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:25 pm

And for u YFred ............Suprise ...........

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Postby YFred » Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:28 pm

halil wrote:And for u YFred ............Suprise ...........

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Halil, thanks for that. That made my day. He is the YFred clan jewel and we have a few others. Another sits oposite to you.
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Postby YFred » Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:33 pm

insan wrote:
YFred wrote:
insan wrote:
YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
insan wrote:
YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:This is an interesting article by journalist Alkan Chaglar on African slavery in Cyprus, shedding some light on the island's dark past...

http://www.toplumpostasi.net/printa.php?col=85&art=1113

According to 18th century travel writer Richard Pococke who visited the island on October 24, 1738, black slaves were commonly transferred over from Egypt and sold to the Ottoman Turks in Cyprus...

...in Cyprus Africans despite being small in number rose to prominent positions ... and assimilated into the Turkish Cypriot community, creating a sizeable mixed race population today...

Cyprus’ history of slavery may be taboo for some, it certainly cannot be justified morally but it is nonetheless an important ingredient in the Turkish Cypriot heritage...

Colour conscious Cypriots whose eyes are gazed firmly towards Europe should note that Cyprus is closer to Africa than either Genoa or Venice.



My cousins in Kophinou had indeed been 'suckled' by a 'süt nine'. Hasanagi or Yfred may know the family. We all called her 'Kara nene', which translates as 'black grandmother'. It was in no way considered as being a derogatory term. Kara nene was highly respected. We were not allowed to speak to her unless we had paid our due respects by the traditional way of kissing the hand and placing it on our forehead. She was well respected by the whole village. I last saw her as a refugee after 1974 in Trikomo. Though blind by then she remembered my voice. When she died a few years later, it was said that she was 110 years old. RIP Gara nene.

Sorry I didn't know here but may she rest in peace.
We had several black people in the village who were very dark and one actually looked African. Our head teacher was also black. There was no animosity at all towards them. It's only when I came to London that I saw racism within the Cypriots community.


My step grandma looked like an African and her husband was a blue eyed, blonde Luricadi Hüseyin Dede; aka Hüseyin Gangrello. Maybe someone from YFred Clan knows him. Both RIP several years ago. :cry:



I did know an Iseyin dede. He was my grand dad. Also known as Muhtar dede. :lol:

His lakap was 'white' (Aspru)

The name Aspru seems familiar. When did he leave Lurucina?


Janlu che prende il posto di Gangrello Ancestor Quader Air Jordan ps: io posso prenotare per un altro... quindi chi tardi arriva... tardi arriva! ...


It sounds like gangrello is an Italian word... sure my Luricadi grandad was a Venetian.

Sure, I met a venetian the other day that had the same surname as me. I also have a Venetian neighbour who swears that I look just like her uncle in Venice. All Lurucadis are Venetian it is believed. There is no proof, unfortunately the birth certificates in Lefkosa burned.


As far as I know, most of the Luricadis r blonde and blue eyed but most of the Italians r brunette. :? Luricadis might be Russian Turks. :lol:

No, I wouldn't say most. Some are but all have Italian sounding names.
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Postby Oracle » Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:35 pm

The Turks are Venetians all of a sudden! :lol:
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Postby halil » Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:35 pm

YFred wrote:
halil wrote:ok in here TC's ,GC's and Armenian Cypriots are together.

picture is taken from our Buyukhan Coffee club album .

Every saturday we are here for coffee.


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Halil, I sat at that very table last year with your X boss one sturday morning. They had live music wine, soft drinks and sweets. It was very nice, but they didn't have to do all that for me, just a coffee would have done :lol: :lol: :lol:


In here every saturday around eleven o'clock we are meeting . TC's,GC's,
Armenian Cypriots and settlers are meeting regularly .We don't care what the others thinks .everyday our group is increasing .
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Postby yialousa1971 » Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:37 pm

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The Cypriot wrote:This is an interesting article by journalist Alkan Chaglar on African slavery in Cyprus, shedding some light on the island's dark past...

http://www.toplumpostasi.net/printa.php?col=85&art=1113

According to 18th century travel writer Richard Pococke who visited the island on October 24, 1738, black slaves were commonly transferred over from Egypt and sold to the Ottoman Turks in Cyprus...

...in Cyprus Africans despite being small in number rose to prominent positions ... and assimilated into the Turkish Cypriot community, creating a sizeable mixed race population today...

Cyprus’ history of slavery may be taboo for some, it certainly cannot be justified morally but it is nonetheless an important ingredient in the Turkish Cypriot heritage...

Colour conscious Cypriots whose eyes are gazed firmly towards Europe should note that Cyprus is closer to Africa than either Genoa or Venice.


They are called Afro Turks and they were Muslims. So as Muslims marry Muslims they entered the Turkish gene pool. Simple isn't it, you should address your concerns to the Turkish Cypriots here not to me.



I understand your issues with 'Turks' but what is your problem with 'blacks'? Do you belong to the KKK? Your above remark shows that you are inclined to have racist tendencies.


Talk to the hand as they say.
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Postby halil » Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:37 pm

Oracle wrote:The Turks are Venetians all of a sudden! :lol:

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Postby insan » Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:41 pm

http://www.havadiskibris.com/ArticleDet ... px?aid=590

History of Lurucina village. It is said that it was an Lusignan village in the beginning.
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