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Postby Oracle » Wed Sep 09, 2009 6:55 pm

Would you all please stop acting as though being "black" is some kind of stigma. :roll:

This is a really shameful thread and I wish Admin would lock it for the sake of decency.

Unfortunately it says much for the mindset of the racists who segregate us in our own country for being "different" to them!
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Postby The Cypriot » Wed Sep 09, 2009 9:56 pm

This is an interesting article by journalist Alkan Chaglar on African slavery in Cyprus, shedding some light on the island's dark past...

http://www.toplumpostasi.net/printa.php?col=85&art=1113

According to 18th century travel writer Richard Pococke who visited the island on October 24, 1738, black slaves were commonly transferred over from Egypt and sold to the Ottoman Turks in Cyprus...

...in Cyprus Africans despite being small in number rose to prominent positions ... and assimilated into the Turkish Cypriot community, creating a sizeable mixed race population today...

Cyprus’ history of slavery may be taboo for some, it certainly cannot be justified morally but it is nonetheless an important ingredient in the Turkish Cypriot heritage...

Colour conscious Cypriots whose eyes are gazed firmly towards Europe should note that Cyprus is closer to Africa than either Genoa or Venice.
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Postby yialousa1971 » Wed Sep 09, 2009 10:09 pm

The Cypriot wrote:This is an interesting article by journalist Alkan Chaglar on African slavery in Cyprus, shedding some light on the island's dark past...

http://www.toplumpostasi.net/printa.php?col=85&art=1113

According to 18th century travel writer Richard Pococke who visited the island on October 24, 1738, black slaves were commonly transferred over from Egypt and sold to the Ottoman Turks in Cyprus...

...in Cyprus Africans despite being small in number rose to prominent positions ... and assimilated into the Turkish Cypriot community, creating a sizeable mixed race population today...

Cyprus’ history of slavery may be taboo for some, it certainly cannot be justified morally but it is nonetheless an important ingredient in the Turkish Cypriot heritage...

Colour conscious Cypriots whose eyes are gazed firmly towards Europe should note that Cyprus is closer to Africa than either Genoa or Venice.


They are called Afro Turks and they were Muslims. So as Muslims marry Muslims they entered the Turkish gene pool. Simple isn't it, you should address your concerns to the Turkish Cypriots here not to me.
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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Sep 09, 2009 10:19 pm

The Cypriot wrote:This is an interesting article by journalist Alkan Chaglar on African slavery in Cyprus, shedding some light on the island's dark past...

http://www.toplumpostasi.net/printa.php?col=85&art=1113

According to 18th century travel writer Richard Pococke who visited the island on October 24, 1738, black slaves were commonly transferred over from Egypt and sold to the Ottoman Turks in Cyprus...

...in Cyprus Africans despite being small in number rose to prominent positions ... and assimilated into the Turkish Cypriot community, creating a sizeable mixed race population today...

Cyprus’ history of slavery may be taboo for some, it certainly cannot be justified morally but it is nonetheless an important ingredient in the Turkish Cypriot heritage...

Colour conscious Cypriots whose eyes are gazed firmly towards Europe should note that Cyprus is closer to Africa than either Genoa or Venice.



My cousins in Kophinou had indeed been 'suckled' by a 'süt nine'. Hasanagi or Yfred may know the family. We all called her 'Kara nene', which translates as 'black grandmother'. It was in no way considered as being a derogatory term. Kara nene was highly respected. We were not allowed to speak to her unless we had paid our due respects by the traditional way of kissing the hand and placing it on our forehead. She was well respected by the whole village. I last saw her as a refugee after 1974 in Trikomo. Though blind by then she remembered my voice. When she died a few years later, it was said that she was 110 years old. RIP Gara nene.
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Postby The Cypriot » Wed Sep 09, 2009 10:33 pm

yialousa1971 wrote:They are called Afro Turks and they were Muslims. So as Muslims marry Muslims they entered the Turkish gene pool. Simple isn't it, you should address your concerns to the Turkish Cypriots here not to me.


You utter nincompoop. It is not I who has concerns about my racial purity - I'm a pure Cypriot.
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Postby YFred » Wed Sep 09, 2009 10:36 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:This is an interesting article by journalist Alkan Chaglar on African slavery in Cyprus, shedding some light on the island's dark past...

http://www.toplumpostasi.net/printa.php?col=85&art=1113

According to 18th century travel writer Richard Pococke who visited the island on October 24, 1738, black slaves were commonly transferred over from Egypt and sold to the Ottoman Turks in Cyprus...

...in Cyprus Africans despite being small in number rose to prominent positions ... and assimilated into the Turkish Cypriot community, creating a sizeable mixed race population today...

Cyprus’ history of slavery may be taboo for some, it certainly cannot be justified morally but it is nonetheless an important ingredient in the Turkish Cypriot heritage...

Colour conscious Cypriots whose eyes are gazed firmly towards Europe should note that Cyprus is closer to Africa than either Genoa or Venice.



My cousins in Kophinou had indeed been 'suckled' by a 'süt nine'. Hasanagi or Yfred may know the family. We all called her 'Kara nene', which translates as 'black grandmother'. It was in no way considered as being a derogatory term. Kara nene was highly respected. We were not allowed to speak to her unless we had paid our due respects by the traditional way of kissing the hand and placing it on our forehead. She was well respected by the whole village. I last saw her as a refugee after 1974 in Trikomo. Though blind by then she remembered my voice. When she died a few years later, it was said that she was 110 years old. RIP Gara nene.

Sorry I didn't know here but may she rest in peace.
We had several black people in the village who were very dark and one actually looked African. Our head teacher was also black. There was no animosity at all towards them. It's only when I came to London that I saw racism within the Cypriots community.
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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Sep 09, 2009 10:39 pm

yialousa1971 wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:This is an interesting article by journalist Alkan Chaglar on African slavery in Cyprus, shedding some light on the island's dark past...

http://www.toplumpostasi.net/printa.php?col=85&art=1113

According to 18th century travel writer Richard Pococke who visited the island on October 24, 1738, black slaves were commonly transferred over from Egypt and sold to the Ottoman Turks in Cyprus...

...in Cyprus Africans despite being small in number rose to prominent positions ... and assimilated into the Turkish Cypriot community, creating a sizeable mixed race population today...

Cyprus’ history of slavery may be taboo for some, it certainly cannot be justified morally but it is nonetheless an important ingredient in the Turkish Cypriot heritage...

Colour conscious Cypriots whose eyes are gazed firmly towards Europe should note that Cyprus is closer to Africa than either Genoa or Venice.


They are called Afro Turks and they were Muslims. So as Muslims marry Muslims they entered the Turkish gene pool. Simple isn't it, you should address your concerns to the Turkish Cypriots here not to me.



I understand your issues with 'Turks' but what is your problem with 'blacks'? Do you belong to the KKK? Your above remark shows that you are inclined to have racist tendencies.
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Postby insan » Wed Sep 09, 2009 10:44 pm

YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:This is an interesting article by journalist Alkan Chaglar on African slavery in Cyprus, shedding some light on the island's dark past...

http://www.toplumpostasi.net/printa.php?col=85&art=1113

According to 18th century travel writer Richard Pococke who visited the island on October 24, 1738, black slaves were commonly transferred over from Egypt and sold to the Ottoman Turks in Cyprus...

...in Cyprus Africans despite being small in number rose to prominent positions ... and assimilated into the Turkish Cypriot community, creating a sizeable mixed race population today...

Cyprus’ history of slavery may be taboo for some, it certainly cannot be justified morally but it is nonetheless an important ingredient in the Turkish Cypriot heritage...

Colour conscious Cypriots whose eyes are gazed firmly towards Europe should note that Cyprus is closer to Africa than either Genoa or Venice.



My cousins in Kophinou had indeed been 'suckled' by a 'süt nine'. Hasanagi or Yfred may know the family. We all called her 'Kara nene', which translates as 'black grandmother'. It was in no way considered as being a derogatory term. Kara nene was highly respected. We were not allowed to speak to her unless we had paid our due respects by the traditional way of kissing the hand and placing it on our forehead. She was well respected by the whole village. I last saw her as a refugee after 1974 in Trikomo. Though blind by then she remembered my voice. When she died a few years later, it was said that she was 110 years old. RIP Gara nene.

Sorry I didn't know here but may she rest in peace.
We had several black people in the village who were very dark and one actually looked African. Our head teacher was also black. There was no animosity at all towards them. It's only when I came to London that I saw racism within the Cypriots community.


My step grandma looked like an African and her husband was a blue eyed, blonde Luricadi Hüseyin Dede; aka Hüseyin Gangrello. Maybe someone from YFred Clan knows him. Both RIP several years ago. :cry:
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Postby YFred » Wed Sep 09, 2009 10:46 pm

insan wrote:
YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:This is an interesting article by journalist Alkan Chaglar on African slavery in Cyprus, shedding some light on the island's dark past...

http://www.toplumpostasi.net/printa.php?col=85&art=1113

According to 18th century travel writer Richard Pococke who visited the island on October 24, 1738, black slaves were commonly transferred over from Egypt and sold to the Ottoman Turks in Cyprus...

...in Cyprus Africans despite being small in number rose to prominent positions ... and assimilated into the Turkish Cypriot community, creating a sizeable mixed race population today...

Cyprus’ history of slavery may be taboo for some, it certainly cannot be justified morally but it is nonetheless an important ingredient in the Turkish Cypriot heritage...

Colour conscious Cypriots whose eyes are gazed firmly towards Europe should note that Cyprus is closer to Africa than either Genoa or Venice.



My cousins in Kophinou had indeed been 'suckled' by a 'süt nine'. Hasanagi or Yfred may know the family. We all called her 'Kara nene', which translates as 'black grandmother'. It was in no way considered as being a derogatory term. Kara nene was highly respected. We were not allowed to speak to her unless we had paid our due respects by the traditional way of kissing the hand and placing it on our forehead. She was well respected by the whole village. I last saw her as a refugee after 1974 in Trikomo. Though blind by then she remembered my voice. When she died a few years later, it was said that she was 110 years old. RIP Gara nene.

Sorry I didn't know here but may she rest in peace.
We had several black people in the village who were very dark and one actually looked African. Our head teacher was also black. There was no animosity at all towards them. It's only when I came to London that I saw racism within the Cypriots community.


My step grandma looked like an African and her husband was a blue eyed, blonde Luricadi Hüseyin Dede; aka Hüseyin Gangrello. Maybe someone from YFred Clan knows him. Both RIP several years ago. :cry:

When was Huseyin Gangrello in Lurucina, Insan?
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Postby Oracle » Wed Sep 09, 2009 10:47 pm

Just great! :roll: ... trust the bloody Turks to implicate Cyprus in the slave trade!

Still, it explains what we have been saying to insan all along ... that the Christians and the Muslims did NOT intermarry or even mix much ...

According to 18th century travel writer Richard Pococke who visited the island on October 24, 1738, black slaves were commonly transferred over from Egypt and sold to the Ottoman Turks in Cyprus. The Turks, according to Pococke would not “suffer them (the Christians) to buy any black slaves”. Their reluctance was because a majority of the slaves were Muslim, and under Islamic Sharia Law they could not be sold to Christians-it would have been unthinkable for a Muslim to be held as a slave by a Christian in a Muslim Empire.


Keeping slave girls was not always for prudent house keeping purposes though; it was not uncommon for a female African slave to be used as a concubine or maintain the role of an inamorata that the family wished to keep a secret.


BTW .... Does anyone have that photo of Zan with that lovely, dark Afro hair ....

Zan wrote:I know Halil but as there is not one GC here that has stood up and said "I'M BLACK AND I'M PROUD" then I don't think they are interested!!!
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