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[Piratis]

ZoC, even if you believe that Molyviatis actually said such things, that is nothing compared to what Anastasides says, and you can imagine what more he would say "off the record" to his Americans friends, especially about Papadopoulos. Some politicians don't serve the interests of their own countries or nations. They just serve their own personal interests and they like to kiss the ass of those who have power.

Without Greece Cyprus wouldn't be in EU. Greece is doing what it can to help Cyprus, but you can't expect all the politicians in Greece to always agree with our politicians, when the Cypriot politicians can not even agree between them.

[Paphitis]

You are Cypriot - the rest I agree with whole heartedly!

Hellene Cypriot! And proud!

wot have u got to be proud about? it's not as though u had anything to do with it. u were born and indoctrinated there.... (i presume u were born there)

Ethnos V's Nationality again!

[Paphitis]

You are Cypriot - the rest I agree with whole heartedly!

Of course we are Cypriot. And Cypriots are Greek, just like Cretans and Athenians.

no, not just like cretans and athenians. cretans and athenians are citizens of the republic of greece. cypriots are citizens of the republic of cyprus.

What makes somebody Greek is not the citizenship. Citizenship is one thing, nationality and ethnicity a whole another.

well i am talking about citizenship which cannot be overlooked. cypriots are not just like athenians/cretans because of this. and because the geostrategic interests of the political entities to which athenians and to which cypriots belong do not always overlap; which is why it's an important distinction. for example, if greece had had its way cypriots would have said 'yes' to the annan plan.

Furthermore, the only reason that Cyprus is a separate country is because this is what some foreigners imposed. But they can not impose on us what our nationality is.

u may feel greek but u are not a greek citizen but a cypriot citizen.

Cypriots are just like Cretans and Athenians when it comes to ethnicity. As I said a separate citizenship was something imposed on us and therefore not something that defines us.

regardless; cypriot political interests do not always comply with greek political interests. when standing up for what's best for cyprus one must think with a cypriot head, not a greek heart.

OK True!

I believe most Cypriots do this...

[SpartanGamer]

What a stupid and racist thread this is. Obviously a question only an old generation racist could ponder upon.

All humans started off with high melanin pigmentation for protection from the sun. See our cousins, the Chimps

As we colonised cooler climates we needed more Vitamin D and so the environment selected for lower pigmentation.

For efficiency, there are various levels; from maximum protection (racists call them "black" ) to minimum protection (racists call them "white" -see title of thread). Those in more temperate climes have highly variable levels depending on daily exposure.

So why is this a "Cyprus Problem" ? Did the Turks invade us to annihilate "white" Greek Cypriots because they themselves are "yellow"?

[mem101]

What a stupid and racist thread this is. Obviously a question only an old generation racist could ponder upon.

All humans started off with high melanin pigmentation for protection from the sun. See our cousins, the Chimps

As we colonised cooler climates we needed more Vitamin D and so the environment selected for lower pigmentation.

For efficiency, there are various levels; from maximum protection (racists call them "black" ) to minimum protection (racists call them "white" -see title of thread). Those in more temperate climes have highly variable levels depending on daily exposure.

So why is this a "Cyprus Problem" ? Did the Turks invade us to annihilate "white" Greek Cypriots because they themselves are "yellow"?

Hear, hear!

[supporttheunderdog]

And in Britain there was nothing English until 2000 years later (5th century AD) when the Germanic tribe of Angles invaded Britain.

And your answer shows you have not been reading what I have been posting.

The research of Capelli Sykes and Oppenheimer suggests that the Angles made little contribution to what is known as England, with Oppenheimer suggesting (based upon the work of other researchers) that that the existsing language spoken in the parts of England where the Angles Saxons and Jutes settled was already similar to the language of these Incomers.

http://www.ucl.ac.uk/tcga/tcgapdf/capelli-CB-03.pdf
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1940284/
http://www.jogg.info/31/campbell.htm
http://www.jogg.info/32/campbell.htm
//www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/2006/10/mythsofbritishancestry/http://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/2007/06/mythsofbritishancestryrevisited/

[Piratis]

And in Britain there was nothing English until 2000 years later (5th century AD) when the Germanic tribe of Angles invaded Britain.

And your answer shows you have not been reading what I have been posting.

The research of Capelli Sykes and Oppenheimer suggests that the Angles made little contribution to what is known as England, with Oppenheimer suggesting (based upon the work of other researchers) that that the existsing language spoken in the parts of England where the Angles Saxons and Jutes settled was already similar to the language of these Incomers.

http://www.ucl.ac.uk/tcga/tcgapdf/capelli-CB-03.pdf
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1940284/
http://www.jogg.info/31/campbell.htm
http://www.jogg.info/32/campbell.htm
//www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/2006/10/mythsofbritishancestry/http://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/2007/06/mythsofbritishancestryrevisited/

Your answer shows that you have not been reading what I have been posting.

Prior to the Germanic invasions Britain was inhabited by various Celtic tribes who were united by common speech, customs, and religion. Each tribe was headed by a king and was divided by class into Druids (priests), warrior nobles, and commoners. The lack of political unity made them vulnerable to their enemies. During the first century, Britain was conquered and subjugated by Rome. During the next three hundred years, Rome legions provided the politically discordant Britons the protection necessary to secure the country from attack.

The Angles migrated from Denmark and the Saxons from northern Germany. There is some debate as to the exact origin of the Jutes, since linguistic evidence suggests that they came from the Jutland peninsula, while archaeological evidence suggests an origin from one of the northern Frankish realms near the mouth of the Rhine river. The Frisians and Franks migrated mainly from the low countries and north-western Germany.

During the sixth and seventh centuries these Germanic invaders started to carve out kingdoms, fighting both the native Britons and each other for land. First called Saxons, the German invaders were later referred to as Angles, and in the year 601ce the pope referred to Aethelbert of Kent as Rex Anglorum ("king of the Angles"). As time passed, the differences between the Germanic tribal cultures gradually unified until eventually they ceased referring to themselves by their individual origins and became either Anglo-Saxon or English. (map of England 650-750)

http://www.uta.edu/english/tim/courses/ ... oct12.html

"England" is derived from Englaland which means "the land of the Engle," that is, Angles (the Germanic tribe).

Now if your claim is that you have very little to do with the Angles then why do you call yourselves English?.

If you are asking from us to stop calling ourselves Greek, shouldn't also your compatriots stop calling themselves English?

The fact is that we are far, far more Greek than anything in Britain is English.

[supporttheunderdog]

You are getting even worse - this item comes from 1998 and is therere quite a bit out date in the light of the later studies of Cappelli, Sykes, Oppenheimer, etc. which deal with the Genetics.

One of the problems with Education is that it can in fact be teaching stuff based on theories that are many years out of date.

Now unless you can come up with some post Cappelli, Sykes and Oppenheimer studies, you really are wasting your time.

[kurupetos]

You are getting even worse - this item comes from 1998 and is therere quite a bit out date in the light of the later studies of Cappelli, Sykes, Oppenheimer, etc. which deal with the Genetics.

One of the problems with Education is that it can in fact be teaching stuff based on theories that are many years out of date.

Now unless you can come up with some post Cappelli, Sykes and Oppenheimer studies, you really are wasting your time.

[Cap]

What a stupid and racist thread this is. Obviously a question only an old generation racist could ponder upon.

All humans started off with high melanin pigmentation for protection from the sun. See our cousins, the Chimps

As we colonised cooler climates we needed more Vitamin D and so the environment selected for lower pigmentation.

For efficiency, there are various levels; from maximum protection (racists call them "black" ) to minimum protection (racists call them "white" -see title of thread). Those in more temperate climes have highly variable levels depending on daily exposure.

So why is this a "Cyprus Problem" ? Did the Turks invade us to annihilate "white" Greek Cypriots because they themselves are "yellow"?

Beg to disagree.