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Postby ZoC » Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:17 am

Viewpoint wrote:Hes 100% Greek living in Cyprus.


and wot percentage of u is turkish?
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:19 am

500 years back its Cyprus.
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Postby Piratis » Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:20 am

ZoC wrote:
Piratis wrote:
ZoC wrote:
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supporttheunderdog wrote:You are Cypriot - the rest I agree with whole heartedly!


Of course we are Cypriot. And Cypriots are Greek, just like Cretans and Athenians.


no, not just like cretans and athenians. cretans and athenians are citizens of the republic of greece. cypriots are citizens of the republic of cyprus.


What makes somebody Greek is not the citizenship. Citizenship is one thing, nationality and ethnicity a whole another.


well i am talking about citizenship which cannot be overlooked. cypriots are not just like athenians/cretans because of this. and because the geostrategic interests of the political entities to which athenians and to which cypriots belong do not always overlap; which is why it's an important distinction. for example, if greece had had its way cypriots would have said 'yes' to the annan plan.

Piratis wrote:Furthermore, the only reason that Cyprus is a separate country is because this is what some foreigners imposed. But they can not impose on us what our nationality is.


u may feel greek but u are not a greek citizen but a cypriot citizen.


Cypriots are just like Cretans and Athenians when it comes to ethnicity. As I said a separate citizenship was something imposed on us and therefore not something that defines us.
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Postby Piratis » Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:21 am

Viewpoint wrote:500 years back its Cyprus.


only if you round up ;)
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:22 am

Piratis wrote:
ZoC wrote:
Piratis wrote:
ZoC wrote:
Piratis wrote:
supporttheunderdog wrote:You are Cypriot - the rest I agree with whole heartedly!


Of course we are Cypriot. And Cypriots are Greek, just like Cretans and Athenians.


no, not just like cretans and athenians. cretans and athenians are citizens of the republic of greece. cypriots are citizens of the republic of cyprus.


What makes somebody Greek is not the citizenship. Citizenship is one thing, nationality and ethnicity a whole another.


well i am talking about citizenship which cannot be overlooked. cypriots are not just like athenians/cretans because of this. and because the geostrategic interests of the political entities to which athenians and to which cypriots belong do not always overlap; which is why it's an important distinction. for example, if greece had had its way cypriots would have said 'yes' to the annan plan.

Piratis wrote:Furthermore, the only reason that Cyprus is a separate country is because this is what some foreigners imposed. But they can not impose on us what our nationality is.


u may feel greek but u are not a greek citizen but a cypriot citizen.


Cypriots are just like Cretans and Athenians when it comes to ethnicity. As I said a separate citizenship was something imposed on us and therefore not something that defines us.


So after how many years do you become just a Cypriot? and why are American just American and not Mexican American or Swedish American?
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Postby Piratis » Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:26 am

Viewpoint wrote:
Piratis wrote:
ZoC wrote:
Piratis wrote:
ZoC wrote:
Piratis wrote:
supporttheunderdog wrote:You are Cypriot - the rest I agree with whole heartedly!


Of course we are Cypriot. And Cypriots are Greek, just like Cretans and Athenians.


no, not just like cretans and athenians. cretans and athenians are citizens of the republic of greece. cypriots are citizens of the republic of cyprus.


What makes somebody Greek is not the citizenship. Citizenship is one thing, nationality and ethnicity a whole another.


well i am talking about citizenship which cannot be overlooked. cypriots are not just like athenians/cretans because of this. and because the geostrategic interests of the political entities to which athenians and to which cypriots belong do not always overlap; which is why it's an important distinction. for example, if greece had had its way cypriots would have said 'yes' to the annan plan.

Piratis wrote:Furthermore, the only reason that Cyprus is a separate country is because this is what some foreigners imposed. But they can not impose on us what our nationality is.


u may feel greek but u are not a greek citizen but a cypriot citizen.


Cypriots are just like Cretans and Athenians when it comes to ethnicity. As I said a separate citizenship was something imposed on us and therefore not something that defines us.


So after how many years do you become just a Cypriot? and why are American just American and not Mexican American or Swedish American?


We are just Greek, who live in Cyprus. Like just Americans who live in New York. Do you mean that Americans who live in New York will become "just New Yorkers" after some time and stop being Americans?
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Postby ZoC » Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:27 am

Piratis wrote:
ZoC wrote:
Piratis wrote:
ZoC wrote:
Piratis wrote:
supporttheunderdog wrote:You are Cypriot - the rest I agree with whole heartedly!


Of course we are Cypriot. And Cypriots are Greek, just like Cretans and Athenians.


no, not just like cretans and athenians. cretans and athenians are citizens of the republic of greece. cypriots are citizens of the republic of cyprus.


What makes somebody Greek is not the citizenship. Citizenship is one thing, nationality and ethnicity a whole another.


well i am talking about citizenship which cannot be overlooked. cypriots are not just like athenians/cretans because of this. and because the geostrategic interests of the political entities to which athenians and to which cypriots belong do not always overlap; which is why it's an important distinction. for example, if greece had had its way cypriots would have said 'yes' to the annan plan.

Piratis wrote:Furthermore, the only reason that Cyprus is a separate country is because this is what some foreigners imposed. But they can not impose on us what our nationality is.


u may feel greek but u are not a greek citizen but a cypriot citizen.


Cypriots are just like Cretans and Athenians when it comes to ethnicity. As I said a separate citizenship was something imposed on us and therefore not something that defines us.


regardless; cypriot political interests do not always comply with greek political interests. when standing up for what's best for cyprus one must think with a cypriot head, not a greek heart.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:29 am

Where do Americans come from ? You may be a Nicosian but you are a Cypriot of Greek origin full stop, that doesnt make you Greek as in a person of Greek heritage who resides in Greece. That would mean all the English are Scandinavian and not English and the American are every origin under the sun but can never be just Americans.
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Postby Piratis » Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:37 am

ZoC wrote:
Piratis wrote:
ZoC wrote:
Piratis wrote:
ZoC wrote:
Piratis wrote:
supporttheunderdog wrote:You are Cypriot - the rest I agree with whole heartedly!


Of course we are Cypriot. And Cypriots are Greek, just like Cretans and Athenians.


no, not just like cretans and athenians. cretans and athenians are citizens of the republic of greece. cypriots are citizens of the republic of cyprus.


What makes somebody Greek is not the citizenship. Citizenship is one thing, nationality and ethnicity a whole another.


well i am talking about citizenship which cannot be overlooked. cypriots are not just like athenians/cretans because of this. and because the geostrategic interests of the political entities to which athenians and to which cypriots belong do not always overlap; which is why it's an important distinction. for example, if greece had had its way cypriots would have said 'yes' to the annan plan.

Piratis wrote:Furthermore, the only reason that Cyprus is a separate country is because this is what some foreigners imposed. But they can not impose on us what our nationality is.


u may feel greek but u are not a greek citizen but a cypriot citizen.


Cypriots are just like Cretans and Athenians when it comes to ethnicity. As I said a separate citizenship was something imposed on us and therefore not something that defines us.


regardless; cypriot political interests do not always comply with greek political interests. when standing up for what's best for cyprus one must think with a cypriot head, not a greek heart.


There could always be differences in interests between various regions of a nation. There is nothing unique in ours in this case. Obviously as a Cypriot I care more for my own region than any other. Taking a step further, as a Limassolian I care more about Limassol than about any other part of Cyprus.

The problem here is the false dichotomy that some people are trying to suggest, that you can either be Cypriot or Greek, but not both. That is obviously wrong. I can be Limassolian, and Cypriot, and Greek and European and not only there is no problem in being all of the above, but it is perfectly natural. One is a subset of another.
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Postby ZoC » Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:42 am

Piratis wrote:
ZoC wrote:
Piratis wrote:
ZoC wrote:
Piratis wrote:
ZoC wrote:
Piratis wrote:
supporttheunderdog wrote:You are Cypriot - the rest I agree with whole heartedly!


Of course we are Cypriot. And Cypriots are Greek, just like Cretans and Athenians.


no, not just like cretans and athenians. cretans and athenians are citizens of the republic of greece. cypriots are citizens of the republic of cyprus.


What makes somebody Greek is not the citizenship. Citizenship is one thing, nationality and ethnicity a whole another.


well i am talking about citizenship which cannot be overlooked. cypriots are not just like athenians/cretans because of this. and because the geostrategic interests of the political entities to which athenians and to which cypriots belong do not always overlap; which is why it's an important distinction. for example, if greece had had its way cypriots would have said 'yes' to the annan plan.

Piratis wrote:Furthermore, the only reason that Cyprus is a separate country is because this is what some foreigners imposed. But they can not impose on us what our nationality is.


u may feel greek but u are not a greek citizen but a cypriot citizen.


Cypriots are just like Cretans and Athenians when it comes to ethnicity. As I said a separate citizenship was something imposed on us and therefore not something that defines us.


regardless; cypriot political interests do not always comply with greek political interests. when standing up for what's best for cyprus one must think with a cypriot head, not a greek heart.


There could always be differences in interests between various regions of a nation.


i think that greece's willingness to endorse the annan plan, rejected by three quarters of free cypriots, suggests more than mere regional differences within a nation.

and would paphos pursue trade links with ankara while kyrenia is still occupied?
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