denizaksulu wrote:Oracle wrote:denizaksulu wrote:I rest my case and the link IS NOT TURKISH.
Yes please rest your case since you did not highlight the ones which did not end with "o" ... Selecting your data in that way invalidates it as you know! Besides I did not say there were NONE ... just flabbergasted that you Turks seemed to think all you had to do was add an "o" to your names and immediately by some miracle you claimed Venetian ancestry ... ignoring the evidence that they hated your guts (since you pulled apart theirs) and most left to avoid interacting with you!
Anyway, here is a more comprehensive list .... which also shows the mistake for the "o" at the end of Bragadin resides with someone called McKee!
(and that is only for a given name ... not patronymic!)
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Fifteenth Century Venetian Masculine Names: Family Names Alphabetically
by Sara L. Uckelman
known in the SCA as Aryanhwy merch Catmael
© 2004 Sara L. Uckelman; all rights reserved
last updated 14Oct04
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Family name Number Notes
Barbo 1 descriptive, origin uncertain. Fucilla, p.51, suggests that the most common origin is a northern word for 'uncle', but notes that it could also derive from barba 'beard' or balbo 'stutterer'. McKee has Barbo as both a given name and byname.
Basadona 1 One Gioan Basadona is mentioned in a letter written in 1538.
Bembo 3 patronymic; possible from Benedetto.
Bon 1 patronymic from a Venetian form of Bono.
Bondumier 2
Bragadin 3 patronymic; McKee has the given name Bragadino.
Canal 1 locative, 'from the canal'. The second most common surname in Venice.
Capello 4 occupational, for a hat-maker.
Cigogna 1 the surname of the 88th doge.
Condulmer 1
Contarini 10 locative, from Contarina, 25 miles S of Venice.
Dolfin 1 patronymic, from a pet form of some name like Adolfo, Gandolfo, etc.
Donado 1 patronymic, from Donado.
Duodo 1
Falieri 1 apparently occupational. Marin Falier was doge 1354-55.
Garzoni 2 possibly patronymic from an augmentative form of Garzia.
Gritti 1
Gustignian/Justinian 1 patronymic. The final n marks this a Venetian form.
Lesse 2
Lion 1 patronymic, from Lion.
Lombardo 1
Loredan 3 possibly locative, from Loreo, 20 miles S of Venice. The final n marks this as a typical Venetian name.
Malipiero 4 patronymic. The name is a compound of Marini and Piero, with the r shifting to l [De Felice Cognomi s.n. Marini].
Manolosso 1
Michiel 1 patronymic, from Michiel.
Mocenigo 2 locative.
Molin 1 locative, from a Venetian word for 'mill'.
Moresini 1 A variant of Morosini.
Moro 3 patronymic, from Moro.
Morosini 1 patronymic, from Morosino. The name was borne by a noble family that provided four doges.
Mosto 3
Muazzo 1
Mulla 2
Navaier 1
Pasqualigo 1 patronymic, from a Venetian form of Pasquale.
Pesaro 1
Pizzamano 1
Priuli 1 descriptive, from a Venetian word for 'prior'.
Salamon 1 patronymic, from Salamon.
Soranzo 3 descriptive or patronymic, a shortened form of Superanzo or Superancio 'excellent, superabundant', also used as a given name.
Trevisan 3 locative, from Treviso, a city 20 miles NNW of Venice.
Tron 2
Valaresso 1
Venier 1 patronymic from a Venetian form of Venerio. One of Venice's important noble families bore this surname from the 11th century.
Vitturi 1 probably patronymic from Vittorio.
Zen 1 patronymic, from a Venetian shortening of Zeno.
Zorzi 1 patronymic, from Zorzi.
Oracle , you said. 'The "-o" ending was not so common in 16th century Venetian names ... more likely endings were "-in" such as Bragadin or Augustin ... Also, most of them tended to have Saints names'.
I have shown you that it was common. Now behave with dignity. Now its you beating around the bush.
But the evidence proves my statement .... there were more names ending with other letters than"o" ... And how did you Turks get the idea Bragadin was Bragadino? By McKee's mistake!
