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Postby Oracle » Sat Sep 12, 2009 12:40 am

denizaksulu wrote:http://www.cypnet.co.uk/ncyprus/history/venetian/v10.htm


Try this, but dont come back saying it from Turkish sources. :lol:

I will keep looking. Its slightly different from what I remember.


Deniz ... you had never stooped this low before.

That's the most ridiculous source EVER! :lol:

The Venetians call him Bragadin and no amount of "o" additions at the ends of Ottoman names is going to give them any rights to Cyprus!
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Postby denizaksulu » Sat Sep 12, 2009 9:35 am

Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:http://www.cypnet.co.uk/ncyprus/history/venetian/v10.htm


Try this, but dont come back saying it from Turkish sources. :lol:

I will keep looking. Its slightly different from what I remember.


Deniz ... you had never stooped this low before.

That's the most ridiculous source EVER! :lol:

The Venetians call him Bragadin and no amount of "o" additions at the ends of Ottoman names is going to give them any rights to Cyprus!



Oooooooooooooooooooh, so its like that now. Thats why the Otto's decided to take Cyprus off their hands :lol:

Anyway, you were wrong to claim what you did about the ----o at the end of the Venetian names. Accept it with grace. :lol:

Look Oracle, we know you think of yourself as a godess - erroneously, but yo are human and allowed to make mistakes. Stop believing in yor own infallability. :roll:

If I have time I must visit that Venetian church as part of my art attacks. Very informative it was. :lol:

Have a good sunny day
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Postby Nikitas » Sat Sep 12, 2009 1:38 pm

The flaying of Bragadin is fair retort for his alleged executing the two emissaries? Is this what I am reading?

He then surrendered. where was mehamet at his surrender?

Mehamet is supposed to be the mercy of the conqueror to those that put themselves under his power. Flaying a man alive seems a little out of the scope of mehamet. And this brings us to the present day when we see the same phenomenon.
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Postby Oracle » Sat Sep 12, 2009 1:45 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:http://www.cypnet.co.uk/ncyprus/history/venetian/v10.htm


Try this, but dont come back saying it from Turkish sources. :lol:

I will keep looking. Its slightly different from what I remember.


Deniz ... you had never stooped this low before.

That's the most ridiculous source EVER! :lol:

The Venetians call him Bragadin and no amount of "o" additions at the ends of Ottoman names is going to give them any rights to Cyprus!



Oooooooooooooooooooh, so its like that now. Thats why the Otto's decided to take Cyprus off their hands :lol:

Anyway, you were wrong to claim what you did about the ----o at the end of the Venetian names. Accept it with grace. :lol:

Look Oracle, we know you think of yourself as a godess - erroneously, but yo are human and allowed to make mistakes. Stop believing in yor own infallability. :roll:

If I have time I must visit that Venetian church as part of my art attacks. Very informative it was. :lol:

Have a good sunny day


Why was I wrong? You have provided nothing to counter the FACT that surnames ending in "o" were uncommon at that time .... and Bragadin did not have an "o" at the end. Nope, you just produced some "TRNC" scrap (which has brainwashed you)!

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Postby Nikitas » Sat Sep 12, 2009 1:49 pm

"We were told this when the schools were run by the British"

At exactly the same time we were given the version shown at the Ialian site. That is that the Turks went back on their word and had Bragadin flayed alive and his skin exhibited in Istanbul. Considering the later treatment of the body it kind of shows the character of those that did the deed.

Obviously it was a form of overcompensation for the failure in Malta.
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Postby insan » Sat Sep 12, 2009 1:50 pm

Italy, while the other traces its roots to the south. Italian surnames ending in -o usually come from southern Italy, whereas in northern Italy they can often be found ending with a -i. Tracking down the sources and variations of your Italian surname is an important part of Italian genealogical research and unveils an important part of your family history and Italian heritage.
Suffixes & Prefixes
Many Italian surnames are basically variations on a root name, made different by the addition of various prefixes and suffixes. Especially common are endings with vowels enclosing double consonants (e.g. -etti, -illo).The Italian preference for diminutives and pet names is the root behind many of the suffixes, as seen by the large number of Italian last names ending in -ini, -ino, -etti, -etto, -ello, and -illo, all of which mean "little." Other commonly added suffixes include -one meaning "big," -accio, meaning either "big" or "bad," and -ucci meaning "descendant of." Common prefixes of Italian surnames also have specific origins. The prefix "di" (meaning "of" or "from") is often attached to an given name to form a patronym. di Benedetto, for example, is the Italian equivalent of Benson (meaning "son of Ben") and di Giovanni is the Italian equivalent of Johnson (son of John). The prefix "di," along with the similar prefix "da" may also be associated with a place of origin (i.e the da Vinci surname referred to someone who originated from Vinci). The prefixes "la" and "lo" (meaning "the") often derived from nicknames (e.g. Giovanni la Fabro was John the smith), but also might be found attached to family names where it meant "of the family of" (e.g. the Greco family might become known as "lo Greco.")

http://genealogy.about.com/cs/surname/a ... urname.htm
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Postby Oracle » Sat Sep 12, 2009 1:55 pm

Insan ... you need to go back to 16th Century Venetian surnames!

Meanwhile, here's one from Deano Martino ...




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Postby insan » Sat Sep 12, 2009 2:01 pm

Oracle wrote:Insan ... you need to go back to 16th Century Venetian surnames!

Meanwhile, here's one from Deano Martino ...




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It has nothing to do with the centuries it seems...
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Postby Nikitas » Sat Sep 12, 2009 2:05 pm

My Italian friend, who is a painter from the Venetian region, tells me that the ending of surnames in -in is common to the area. The Venice phone book has a fair number of Bragadins.

The Italian navy has adopted a tradition and there is always a ship bearing the name of Marco Antonio Bragadin, with no "o" ending.
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