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Biggest mass grave of GCs in Lapithos

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Postby insan » Thu Sep 10, 2009 12:24 pm

Nikitas wrote:Why is there so much mystery about this? Denktash many years ago stated clearly and plainly that there are no living missing persons. He put it bluntly, the missing were killed by TC irregulars, which might or might not be accurate, but surely we all know they were killed, as we know that all the missing TCs were killed.

The games played by both sides since that statement by Denktash are beyond analysis. What political gain could there be for anyone in keeping hopes alive that some of the missing might be alive?

But this is the quality of Cypriot politicians on both sides. How can these people fool enough voters to get elected? That is the mystery!


Nikitas, now please make a prediction and tell me how many GCs/Greeks were killed during the combat and what's happened to their corpses.
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Postby YFred » Thu Sep 10, 2009 12:25 pm

Nikitas wrote:Denktash is a Cypriot and he knows how small Cyprus is. Those of us who had coup victims know when and how relatives were arrested and killed. It is impossible to hide coup victims for the simple reason it all happened in three days, from Monday the 15th of July up to and including the morning of Thursday. Most of the victims were police officers of the auxiliary unit.

The bodies were not dumped into any mass graves, they were taken to hospitals and left there for the relatives to claim.

Most fighting during the coup was around police stations and government installations in Nicosia, LImassol and Paphos. Some fighting took place in the Famagusta police station.

Why transport the dead from these clashes to Lapithos to bury there? Does Denktash have a theory for this?

The priest, Papa Tsestos, who happens to be the priest who buried my father, told me in 1979 that there were victims of the coup that he buried but not in mass graves. He told me that the services were normal except that the words "he died" are written for coup perpetrators whereas for victims the words "he fell" are used.

My father was a public prosecutor in Cyprus till his death in 1979. He told me of the numbers of casualties and the decision not to prosecute anyone. The numbers were nowhere near those alleged in this forum and elsewhere. It is also interesting that although my father was a known anti junta man, and a member of EDEK, he was not arrested during the three worst days of the junta. He was put on leave. None of his colleagues were arrested or harmed even though all of them were Makarios appointees.

The Junta did not carry out executions in Greece and it did not have to do so in Cyprus. Their methods did not rely on killing people. They had other means to terrorise the population.

So please leave this nonsense alone.

Nikitas, the RoC claim of 97 killed by the coup, is that accurate?
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Postby denizaksulu » Thu Sep 10, 2009 12:30 pm

Nikitas wrote:Epsilon,

I am puzzled by the almost manic drive to justify the actions of the Turkish army and the TMT irregulars who were given a free hand by the same army.

The allegation that bodies of GCs were driven all the way from the south coast to the north, to bury in Lapithos days before the invasion is really monstrous. Just think, it means that the coupists knew DAYS IN ADVANCE of the invasion point and had it all planned to blame the invading army for their alleged killings.



I hope you are not accusing me of justifying these actions. I wholeheartedly condemn them. I only relate this as I read it last week and it touched on the charges mentioned above.

Dont shoot the messenger, boy. :lol:
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Postby Jerry » Thu Sep 10, 2009 12:32 pm

According to this it would seem that the existence of this burial site is an open secret in Kyrenia. The local medical students even use bones fron the bodies of the buried Greek Cypriots in their studies.

http://hellenicantidote.blogspot.com/20 ... reeks.html
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Postby denizaksulu » Thu Sep 10, 2009 12:35 pm

Jerry wrote:According to this it would seem that the existence of this burial site is an open secret in Kyrenia. The local medical students even use bones fron the bodies of the buried Greek Cypriots in their studies.

http://hellenicantidote.blogspot.com/20 ... reeks.html



These medical students are unbelievable. How could they? One wonders if they were really medical students or after trophies. Sick minds.

Medical students in the North????
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Postby YFred » Thu Sep 10, 2009 12:41 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Nikitas wrote:Epsilon,

I am puzzled by the almost manic drive to justify the actions of the Turkish army and the TMT irregulars who were given a free hand by the same army.

The allegation that bodies of GCs were driven all the way from the south coast to the north, to bury in Lapithos days before the invasion is really monstrous. Just think, it means that the coupists knew DAYS IN ADVANCE of the invasion point and had it all planned to blame the invading army for their alleged killings.



I hope you are not accusing me of justifying these actions. I wholeheartedly condemn them. I only relate this as I read it last week and it touched on the charges mentioned above.

Dont shoot the messenger, boy. :lol:

Deniz, there is a documentary with a GC captain talking about going around and killing communists in Girne. That GCs killed people and buried them in Girne is beyond doubt, the question is how many?
and where?
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Postby YFred » Thu Sep 10, 2009 12:44 pm

Halil, is there a medical school in Girne? Does the American Academy teach medicene?
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Postby Nikitas » Thu Sep 10, 2009 12:45 pm

Deniz I was not referring to your post, but the ones that have appeared over the last few days, some misquoting Papa Tsestos and taken out of context.

We are all Cypriots and we all know how we lose our cool. The word "shashouris" comes to mind, it must be Turkish in origin and denotes a confused individual. The days just after the invasion must have been the kingdom of the "shashouris" rushing hither and thither, some armed and hanging tough, and fairly risk free since they were following the tanks, not leading. We all know people like that, even though some pretend they do not.

I wish Denktash would drop his superior and unbecoming Istanbulite act and admit that he is a Cypriot. He knows full well what was going on and who was involved. But to do that he must also admit that his people were out of control, that he was not the cool commander he wants people to believe he was.
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Postby halil » Thu Sep 10, 2009 12:50 pm

YFred wrote:Halil, is there a medical school in Girne? Does the American Academy teach medicene?


no ......... we have a dentist school in Nicosia which is opened last year at near east university.

to be doctor u have to go abroad for your studies.
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Postby Nikitas » Thu Sep 10, 2009 12:57 pm

"to be doctor u have to go abroad for your studies"

Precisely, and it was easy to check on this fact before posting about bones etc, so let us all cut the nonsense and the posting of idiotic hearsay about the missing. Cyprus is very small, it is more than probable that we have some family ties to some of the dead.

If there is no serious information to post it is better to post nothing.
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