insan wrote:bill cobbett wrote:insan wrote:Nikitas wrote:Insan,
Use your knowledge of Cyprus, and how it was in 1974, if you are old enough to have that knowledge.
I can visualise what went on, with bands of irregulars wanting to be in on the action, but not wanting to risk life and limb, so they expended their bravery on civilians and unarmed captives. Then there were plain thieves, like the ones in Palekythro that killed two families for a few cows and a milking machine. And then there was the plan to terrorise GCs to encourage them to empty the north, part of the Turkish army psywar operations.
It all makes a web of terror and yields a pile of bodies. And when they realised that news teams from BBC and ITV and Reuters were around they had to hide the bodies. It is no mystery.
The scandal is that both sides are providing a shield of silence for the killers. We are waiting till they are dead and beyond punishment to reveal their names. It is indicative of Cypriot society on both sides. At least in that area we are identical.
Hmm... sorry but ur visualization sounds too superficial to me.How abt the hostile environment, war psychology, taking revenge of old and recent wounds, anger, heat of July and August etc... U didn't put them into consideration at all...
My dear Insan, your reply to N is very, very weak. It seems to
me that N's "visualisation" as you call it is very believable.
Now, why would anyone want to remove skulls from what more and more people are calling a mass grave?
According to the alleged testimonies there's a mass grave there... What's important for relatives of missings is whose remains were burried there.
I wonder if they were all corpses of GCs/Greeks who were killed during the combat or some killed during the combat and some killed as captives/pows.
It is obvious that during July/August those who were killed during the combat should have been burried into mass graves because they would rot outside and smell bad...
On the other hand, the witness stated that 3 day lasted rain uncovered the corpses and TA burned the corpses. If they burned the corpses then there's no mass grave there.
Furthermore, had TA wanted to hide their guilt as it was claimed, would have burnt all the corpses of Greek/GC deads no matter whether they were killed during the combat or massacred as pows/captives...? Yes?
When I put into consideration the hostile environment, revenge feelings, retaliatory anger etc during July/August 1974, it is highly probable that such mass killings had occured and infact it was revealed that such mass killings were committed.
As I previously stated, there weird things going on behind the scenes. Some political groups r trying to create impression for their self-interests over these allegations.
Now that it is known, it will be uncovered and I have no doubt they will be able to work out who these people were and how they were killed. At least their families will be able to bury their dead. It is only a small conciliations but it is one wish of all the families of the missing GC and TC.
May they all rest in peace and their families finally find peace of mind.
As to the ones who did this deed and other deeds may they rot in hell.
But it is a mistake to stop the talks, because if you ask anybody who survived these traumas, their attitude is much more conciliatory towards the perpetrators, and would wish for peace so it can never happen again.
