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Postby YFred » Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:00 pm

growuptcs wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
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Viewpoint wrote:The GCs are unified in boycotting the TRNC as they see it as a way of forcing us to capitulate to their demands. The details I have heard from local TC businessmen about the hurdles placed in their way when they try to do business with GCs and the fear GCs show about being persucted by the "RoC" adminsitration if they are caught doing business with the north.


Of course they're unified to get every Turk off their property. Stop your nonsense to prove your pathetic beliefs. Your pathetic political beliefs run on an expiration date, and all you can do is scaremonger. You have a better chance to sell an African a tanning bed, than to sell to the world that Turks belong in Cyprus.


The GC donkey will never become a race horse.


Thats what I'm talking about. Look at how you veer off reality to try and get a GC to your pathetic level. Just get a job and you wouldn't have to depend on Turkeys handouts. Just be nice to GC's because thats who'll you'll be asking for a job when its time.

Yeah Yeah and pigs will will grow wings and fly.
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:38 pm

YFred wrote:
growuptcs wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
growuptcs wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:The GCs are unified in boycotting the TRNC as they see it as a way of forcing us to capitulate to their demands. The details I have heard from local TC businessmen about the hurdles placed in their way when they try to do business with GCs and the fear GCs show about being persucted by the "RoC" adminsitration if they are caught doing business with the north.


Of course they're unified to get every Turk off their property. Stop your nonsense to prove your pathetic beliefs. Your pathetic political beliefs run on an expiration date, and all you can do is scaremonger. You have a better chance to sell an African a tanning bed, than to sell to the world that Turks belong in Cyprus.


The GC donkey will never become a race horse.


Thats what I'm talking about. Look at how you veer off reality to try and get a GC to your pathetic level. Just get a job and you wouldn't have to depend on Turkeys handouts. Just be nice to GC's because thats who'll you'll be asking for a job when its time.

Yeah Yeah and pigs will will grow wings and fly.


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Postby iceman » Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:42 pm

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-mikkie2- wrote:Ridiculous really! Its all mainly to do with supply and demand. If stuff in the north is a load of rubbish then, perhaps, that is the reason why many tc's shop in the south. Nikitas has hit the nail on the head anyway - there is trade going on between the communities and its obvious that some people from both sides don't like it and will do what they can to disrupt trade.


It's about price. The larger and more affluent population in the south means that there are sufficient economies of scale to support large supermarket chains like Orphanides which offer a more attractive range of goods at competitive prices in comparison to what is available in the north.

Tim, don't forget the effect the isolation has on prices.
I gave an example of importing a car to Cyprus.
Price:
GC side 500 pounds
TC side 2000 pounds
Form an English carrier.
It is legalised criminality which ever way you look at it.


hey fred
are those shipping prices you quoted?

Yes, but they may be abit out of date, I looked at it a few years ago.



well..they are definitely out of date and no way there is that much difference between shipping to Limassol or Famagusta from UK
The difference is in the astronomic taxes TRNC charges on imported vehicles to the north..
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Postby YFred » Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:45 pm

iceman wrote:
YFred wrote:
iceman wrote:
YFred wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
-mikkie2- wrote:Ridiculous really! Its all mainly to do with supply and demand. If stuff in the north is a load of rubbish then, perhaps, that is the reason why many tc's shop in the south. Nikitas has hit the nail on the head anyway - there is trade going on between the communities and its obvious that some people from both sides don't like it and will do what they can to disrupt trade.


It's about price. The larger and more affluent population in the south means that there are sufficient economies of scale to support large supermarket chains like Orphanides which offer a more attractive range of goods at competitive prices in comparison to what is available in the north.

Tim, don't forget the effect the isolation has on prices.
I gave an example of importing a car to Cyprus.
Price:
GC side 500 pounds
TC side 2000 pounds
Form an English carrier.
It is legalised criminality which ever way you look at it.


hey fred
are those shipping prices you quoted?

Yes, but they may be abit out of date, I looked at it a few years ago.



well..they are definitely out of date and no way there is that much difference between shipping to Limassol or Famagusta from UK
The difference is in the astronomic taxes TRNC charges on imported vehicles to the north..

When I looked at it, I couldn't believe the difference and I checked. That price did not include taxes to either. The Taxes for cars were exactly the same for both sides.
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:46 pm

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Nikitas wrote:TC potatoes are big hit with Greek buyers because they are better. Like Mikkie says, the market has ways to reward and punish, no need for politics there.


Wish we could eat those "big hit" potatoes also..
I have to buy my Cyprus potatoes from the south because the Turkish potatoes sold in the north are good for nothing.

I think you've both been had! The tasty potatoes come from Turkey which then get sold by TCs to GCs as a TC product! :lol:
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Postby Nikitas » Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:49 pm

"The GCs are unified in boycotting the TRNC "

But they still play at the casinos, buy building materials in great tonnages, go north fo entertainment. Do not grumble.
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:51 pm

Nikitas wrote:"The GCs are unified in boycotting the TRNC "

But they still play at the casinos, buy building materials in great tonnages, go north fo entertainment. Do not grumble.


The trade over the border is comical, the casinos take in money for Turkey and as for entertainment??? what are you referring to?
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Postby iceman » Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:58 pm

Get Real! wrote:
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Nikitas wrote:TC potatoes are big hit with Greek buyers because they are better. Like Mikkie says, the market has ways to reward and punish, no need for politics there.


Wish we could eat those "big hit" potatoes also..
I have to buy my Cyprus potatoes from the south because the Turkish potatoes sold in the north are good for nothing.

I think you've both been had! The tasty potatoes come from Turkey which then get sold by TCs to GCs as a TC product! :lol:


You are sooo wrong..Turkish potatoes are small,dark in colour and good for nothing..
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Postby iceman » Wed Sep 09, 2009 12:06 am

YFred wrote:
iceman wrote:
YFred wrote:
iceman wrote:
YFred wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
-mikkie2- wrote:Ridiculous really! Its all mainly to do with supply and demand. If stuff in the north is a load of rubbish then, perhaps, that is the reason why many tc's shop in the south. Nikitas has hit the nail on the head anyway - there is trade going on between the communities and its obvious that some people from both sides don't like it and will do what they can to disrupt trade.


It's about price. The larger and more affluent population in the south means that there are sufficient economies of scale to support large supermarket chains like Orphanides which offer a more attractive range of goods at competitive prices in comparison to what is available in the north.

Tim, don't forget the effect the isolation has on prices.
I gave an example of importing a car to Cyprus.
Price:
GC side 500 pounds
TC side 2000 pounds
Form an English carrier.
It is legalised criminality which ever way you look at it.


hey fred
are those shipping prices you quoted?

Yes, but they may be abit out of date, I looked at it a few years ago.



well..they are definitely out of date and no way there is that much difference between shipping to Limassol or Famagusta from UK
The difference is in the astronomic taxes TRNC charges on imported vehicles to the north..

When I looked at it, I couldn't believe the difference and I checked. That price did not include taxes to either. The Taxes for cars were exactly the same for both sides.



fred...you are wrong my friend...taxes on import cars never been anywhere near same..

Not so long ago,Mehmet Cangar was on a local TV programme complaining about taxes charged by TRNC customs..(Mr.Cangar is importer for BMW and Ford) he gave an example..he said a car manufactured in UK and sold 10K xfactory price will retail at 12K in ROC but dues to high taxes charged same car will be sold for 17K in TRNC..
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Postby Nikitas » Wed Sep 09, 2009 12:10 am

VP,

All my colleagues who have been to Cyprus from Athens, most of them mainland Greeks, report on being taken for dinner in the north. This is what I mean by entertainment, although I gather there are other types too.

As for TC potatoes, the demand for them in Greece is so great that the supermarkets when they run out of them put up signs saying "Cypriot potatotes arriving soon".

Funny that there is no Cypriot deli in Athens. With so many daily flights there could be daily deliveries of fresh baked goods like tashinopitta, etc, halloumopitta etc, that would put the local oversalted stuff to shame.
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