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[Floda]

Simon, Floda, that still does not explain why they want to blow up Trans - Atlantic jets, most of the targets were going to be US or US destination flights. Stripping the wealth of former colonies did not bring about these terrorist activities in the 50s and 60s so why now?

I think you will have to dig a little deeper than that which you are fed through the media Jerry, myopia seems to be a very common complaint among those who subscribe to the notion that the 'Western Powers' are doing a great job (particularly with their 'Foreign Policies').

Was it Gordon Brown who recently made the almost unbelievable statement that "We should TALK to the Taliban"

What a great pity he did not think of that years ago (along with his predecessor and Co).

One wonders if it may be a case of the 'Whipped Dog' bites back.

[baby-come-fly-with-me]

Simon, Floda, that still does not explain why they want to blow up Trans - Atlantic jets, most of the targets were going to be US or US destination flights. Stripping the wealth of former colonies did not bring about these terrorist activities in the 50s and 60s so why now?

I think you will have to dig a little deeper than that which you are fed through the media Jerry, myopia seems to be a very common complaint among those who subscribe to the notion that the 'Western Powers' are doing a great job (particularly with their 'Foreign Policies').

Was it Gordon Brown who recently made the almost unbelievable statement that "We should TALK to the Taliban"

What a great pity he did not think of that years ago (along with his predecessor and Co).

One wonders if it may be a case of the 'Whipped Dog' bites back.

There you go its a case of the "whipped dog" bites back, that makes it acceptable!
why do you think GB should of talked to the taliban years ago? what are you implying it would of prevented alot of exactly?

[Floda]

Simon, Floda, that still does not explain why they want to blow up Trans - Atlantic jets, most of the targets were going to be US or US destination flights. Stripping the wealth of former colonies did not bring about these terrorist activities in the 50s and 60s so why now?

I think you will have to dig a little deeper than that which you are fed through the media Jerry, myopia seems to be a very common complaint among those who subscribe to the notion that the 'Western Powers' are doing a great job (particularly with their 'Foreign Policies').

Was it Gordon Brown who recently made the almost unbelievable statement that "We should TALK to the Taliban"

What a great pity he did not think of that years ago (along with his predecessor and Co).

One wonders if it may be a case of the 'Whipped Dog' bites back.

There you go its a case of the "whipped dog" bites back, that makes it acceptable!
why do you think GB should of talked to the taliban years ago? what are you implying it would of prevented alot of exactly?

I think you'll find that the days of the 'Roaring Lion' and 'Screeching Eagle' of the past few years, are now feared somewhat less by those who have suffered oppression for so long at their behest.

The UK (and it's allies) have been vicious and uncompromising enemies to any nation that does not wish to accept their supposed 'Culture' (who can blame them )

NOW, they reap the harvest of the seeds they have sown, colour it which way you prefer, the 'TRUTH' is out there among the smoking debris of that which once was 'Home' to many millions of innocent civilians.

Or do you support the claims of your liardy political leaders , they who have convinced the blinkered masses that they have done no wrong.

[baby-come-fly-with-me]

Simon, Floda, that still does not explain why they want to blow up Trans - Atlantic jets, most of the targets were going to be US or US destination flights. Stripping the wealth of former colonies did not bring about these terrorist activities in the 50s and 60s so why now?

I think you will have to dig a little deeper than that which you are fed through the media Jerry, myopia seems to be a very common complaint among those who subscribe to the notion that the 'Western Powers' are doing a great job (particularly with their 'Foreign Policies').

Was it Gordon Brown who recently made the almost unbelievable statement that "We should TALK to the Taliban"

What a great pity he did not think of that years ago (along with his predecessor and Co).

One wonders if it may be a case of the 'Whipped Dog' bites back.

There you go its a case of the "whipped dog" bites back, that makes it acceptable!
why do you think GB should of talked to the taliban years ago? what are you implying it would of prevented alot of exactly?

I think you'll find that the days of the 'Roaring Lion' and 'Screeching Eagle' of the past few years, are now feared somewhat less by those who have suffered oppression for so long at their behest.

The UK (and it's allies) have been vicious and uncompromising enemies to any nation that does not wish to accept their supposed 'Culture' (who can blame them )

NOW, they reap the harvest of the seeds they have sown, colour it which way you prefer, the 'TRUTH' is out there among the smoking debris of that which once was 'Home' to many millions of innocent civilians.

Or do you support the claims of your liardy political leaders , they who have convinced the blinkered masses that they have done no wrong.

no I do not agree with war, and innocent civilians getting caught up in the crossfire.
I also do not believe that two wrongs make a right like you are suggesting.
Why do you think uk and usa went to war on iraq? Was it to hurt innocent civilians? No damn right it wasnt and you know it

[Floda]

Simon, Floda, that still does not explain why they want to blow up Trans - Atlantic jets, most of the targets were going to be US or US destination flights. Stripping the wealth of former colonies did not bring about these terrorist activities in the 50s and 60s so why now?

I think you will have to dig a little deeper than that which you are fed through the media Jerry, myopia seems to be a very common complaint among those who subscribe to the notion that the 'Western Powers' are doing a great job (particularly with their 'Foreign Policies').

Was it Gordon Brown who recently made the almost unbelievable statement that "We should TALK to the Taliban"

What a great pity he did not think of that years ago (along with his predecessor and Co).

One wonders if it may be a case of the 'Whipped Dog' bites back.

There you go its a case of the "whipped dog" bites back, that makes it acceptable!
why do you think GB should of talked to the taliban years ago? what are you implying it would of prevented alot of exactly?

I think you'll find that the days of the 'Roaring Lion' and 'Screeching Eagle' of the past few years, are now feared somewhat less by those who have suffered oppression for so long at their behest.

The UK (and it's allies) have been vicious and uncompromising enemies to any nation that does not wish to accept their supposed 'Culture' (who can blame them )

NOW, they reap the harvest of the seeds they have sown, colour it which way you prefer, the 'TRUTH' is out there among the smoking debris of that which once was 'Home' to many millions of innocent civilians.

Or do you support the claims of your liardy political leaders , they who have convinced the blinkered masses that they have done no wrong.

no I do not agree with war, and innocent civilians getting caught up in the crossfire.
I also do not believe that two wrongs make a right like you are suggesting.
Why do you think uk and usa went to war on iraq? Was it to hurt innocent civilians? No damn right it wasnt and you know it

The reasons for the 'Unlawful and Murderous' attack and invasion/occupation of Iraq has been discussed severally on this forum.

I would not grant those actions as worthy of being referred to as 'WAR' since there has never been a declaration of such, neither should such grandiose titles be attached to the aggressive onslaughts now in progress in Afghanistan. (IMHO)

As one who has had a great deal of experience in both (and many other regions) I would suggest that you try to use your own judgement as to just what the reasons for ALL those actions are.

The recent (ongoing) fiasco surrounding the 'Lockerbie Bombing' and it's connection with Libyan mineral and gas resources, may well serve to assist you in drawing your own conclusions, the daily newspapers will not.

The same Libyan source will reveal (if you study facts) just how much REAL value is placed upon human life when 'OIL' is in the pipeline. (pun)

As a great man once said, "They will not piss up my back and persuade me that I'm sweating" (excuse the term, his words not mine)

[Simon]

They may be born in the UK, but they certainly do not regard themselves as British. So if they hate Britain so much, let them return to wherever they think home is!

It may come as something of a surprise to many that the above remarks open the floodgates to some derision from those 'Immigrants' (and their offspring).

The origins of the influx of such 'Immigrants' can be easily traced back to the days when the UK 'Invited' them to take up residence in what they described to those 'Immigrants' as ........... "Their Mother Land".

Thus, whilst the UK were busily stripping the wealth of those many other nations (a usual habit) and convincing them that they were in fact concerned with improving the quality of those lives affected, 'Sammy' (or whatever other nickname the racist Brits may tag their invited guests) has merely come home to 'MUM'

I think it's called 'Poetic Justice', "You smash my house and I'll smash yours !"

Simon, Floda, that still does not explain why they want to blow up Trans - Atlantic jets, most of the targets were going to be US or US destination flights. Stripping the wealth of former colonies did not bring about these terrorist activities in the 50s and 60s so why now?

Jerry that's fairly simple. The terrorists explain their motives in their pre-recorded videos. They believe the West is at war with Muslims, and this is their counter-attack. Even though they are British, they call places like Afghanistan and Iraq "their land".

They seem to forget that the West were saving Muslims not so long ago in Kosovo.

[Jerry]

They may be born in the UK, but they certainly do not regard themselves as British. So if they hate Britain so much, let them return to wherever they think home is!

It may come as something of a surprise to many that the above remarks open the floodgates to some derision from those 'Immigrants' (and their offspring).

The origins of the influx of such 'Immigrants' can be easily traced back to the days when the UK 'Invited' them to take up residence in what they described to those 'Immigrants' as ........... "Their Mother Land".

Thus, whilst the UK were busily stripping the wealth of those many other nations (a usual habit) and convincing them that they were in fact concerned with improving the quality of those lives affected, 'Sammy' (or whatever other nickname the racist Brits may tag their invited guests) has merely come home to 'MUM'

I think it's called 'Poetic Justice', "You smash my house and I'll smash yours !"

Simon, Floda, that still does not explain why they want to blow up Trans - Atlantic jets, most of the targets were going to be US or US destination flights. Stripping the wealth of former colonies did not bring about these terrorist activities in the 50s and 60s so why now?

Jerry that's fairly simple. The terrorists explain their motives in their pre-recorded videos. They believe the West is at war with Muslims, and this is their counter-attack. Even though they are British, they call places like Afghanistan and Iraq "their land".

They seem to forget that the West were saving Muslims not so long ago in Kosovo.

Oh! I understand now, silly me I always thought it was to do with those wicked Palestinians wanting to go back to their homes.

[Simon]

They may be born in the UK, but they certainly do not regard themselves as British. So if they hate Britain so much, let them return to wherever they think home is!

It may come as something of a surprise to many that the above remarks open the floodgates to some derision from those 'Immigrants' (and their offspring).

The origins of the influx of such 'Immigrants' can be easily traced back to the days when the UK 'Invited' them to take up residence in what they described to those 'Immigrants' as ........... "Their Mother Land".

Thus, whilst the UK were busily stripping the wealth of those many other nations (a usual habit) and convincing them that they were in fact concerned with improving the quality of those lives affected, 'Sammy' (or whatever other nickname the racist Brits may tag their invited guests) has merely come home to 'MUM'

I think it's called 'Poetic Justice', "You smash my house and I'll smash yours !"

Simon, Floda, that still does not explain why they want to blow up Trans - Atlantic jets, most of the targets were going to be US or US destination flights. Stripping the wealth of former colonies did not bring about these terrorist activities in the 50s and 60s so why now?

Jerry that's fairly simple. The terrorists explain their motives in their pre-recorded videos. They believe the West is at war with Muslims, and this is their counter-attack. Even though they are British, they call places like Afghanistan and Iraq "their land".

They seem to forget that the West were saving Muslims not so long ago in Kosovo.

Oh! I understand now, silly me I always thought it was to do with those wicked Palestinians wanting to go back to their homes.

Of course that's all a part of it as well! Like I said, they believe the West is at war with Muslims. I'm only going by what these people say themselves Jerry!

[baby-come-fly-with-me]

Simon, Floda, that still does not explain why they want to blow up Trans - Atlantic jets, most of the targets were going to be US or US destination flights. Stripping the wealth of former colonies did not bring about these terrorist activities in the 50s and 60s so why now?

I think you will have to dig a little deeper than that which you are fed through the media Jerry, myopia seems to be a very common complaint among those who subscribe to the notion that the 'Western Powers' are doing a great job (particularly with their 'Foreign Policies').

Was it Gordon Brown who recently made the almost unbelievable statement that "We should TALK to the Taliban"

What a great pity he did not think of that years ago (along with his predecessor and Co).

One wonders if it may be a case of the 'Whipped Dog' bites back.

There you go its a case of the "whipped dog" bites back, that makes it acceptable!
why do you think GB should of talked to the taliban years ago? what are you implying it would of prevented alot of exactly?

I think you'll find that the days of the 'Roaring Lion' and 'Screeching Eagle' of the past few years, are now feared somewhat less by those who have suffered oppression for so long at their behest.

The UK (and it's allies) have been vicious and uncompromising enemies to any nation that does not wish to accept their supposed 'Culture' (who can blame them )

NOW, they reap the harvest of the seeds they have sown, colour it which way you prefer, the 'TRUTH' is out there among the smoking debris of that which once was 'Home' to many millions of innocent civilians.

Or do you support the claims of your liardy political leaders , they who have convinced the blinkered masses that they have done no wrong.

no I do not agree with war, and innocent civilians getting caught up in the crossfire.
I also do not believe that two wrongs make a right like you are suggesting.
Why do you think uk and usa went to war on iraq? Was it to hurt innocent civilians? No damn right it wasnt and you know it

The reasons for the 'Unlawful and Murderous' attack and invasion/occupation of Iraq has been discussed severally on this forum.

I would not grant those actions as worthy of being referred to as 'WAR' since there has never been a declaration of such, neither should such grandiose titles be attached to the aggressive onslaughts now in progress in Afghanistan. (IMHO)

As one who has had a great deal of experience in both (and many other regions) I would suggest that you try to use your own judgement as to just what the reasons for ALL those actions are.

The recent (ongoing) fiasco surrounding the 'Lockerbie Bombing' and it's connection with Libyan mineral and gas resources, may well serve to assist you in drawing your own conclusions, the daily newspapers will not.

The same Libyan source will reveal (if you study facts) just how much REAL value is placed upon human life when 'OIL' is in the pipeline. (pun)

As a great man once said, "They will not piss up my back and persuade me that I'm sweating" (excuse the term, his words not mine)

"They will not piss up my back and bite more than they can chew"..thats what you meant wasnt it
funny how before I got to the end of your relpy, I did predict you were going to mention OIL!! funny that.
The thing is oil doesnt spring into mind when I think about "operation freedom Iraq"
Example 9/11, was an act of killing on a massive scale and if you like was an act of war/murder of which was unprovoked.

[baby-come-fly-with-me]

Simon, Floda, that still does not explain why they want to blow up Trans - Atlantic jets, most of the targets were going to be US or US destination flights. Stripping the wealth of former colonies did not bring about these terrorist activities in the 50s and 60s so why now?

I think you will have to dig a little deeper than that which you are fed through the media Jerry, myopia seems to be a very common complaint among those who subscribe to the notion that the 'Western Powers' are doing a great job (particularly with their 'Foreign Policies').

Was it Gordon Brown who recently made the almost unbelievable statement that "We should TALK to the Taliban"

What a great pity he did not think of that years ago (along with his predecessor and Co).

One wonders if it may be a case of the 'Whipped Dog' bites back.

There you go its a case of the "whipped dog" bites back, that makes it acceptable!
why do you think GB should of talked to the taliban years ago? what are you implying it would of prevented alot of exactly?

I think you'll find that the days of the 'Roaring Lion' and 'Screeching Eagle' of the past few years, are now feared somewhat less by those who have suffered oppression for so long at their behest.

The UK (and it's allies) have been vicious and uncompromising enemies to any nation that does not wish to accept their supposed 'Culture' (who can blame them )

NOW, they reap the harvest of the seeds they have sown, colour it which way you prefer, the 'TRUTH' is out there among the smoking debris of that which once was 'Home' to many millions of innocent civilians.

Or do you support the claims of your liardy political leaders , they who have convinced the blinkered masses that they have done no wrong.

no I do not agree with war, and innocent civilians getting caught up in the crossfire.
I also do not believe that two wrongs make a right like you are suggesting.
Why do you think uk and usa went to war on iraq? Was it to hurt innocent civilians? No damn right it wasnt and you know it

The reasons for the 'Unlawful and Murderous' attack and invasion/occupation of Iraq has been discussed severally on this forum.

I would not grant those actions as worthy of being referred to as 'WAR' since there has never been a declaration of such, neither should such grandiose titles be attached to the aggressive onslaughts now in progress in Afghanistan. (IMHO)

As one who has had a great deal of experience in both (and many other regions) I would suggest that you try to use your own judgement as to just what the reasons for ALL those actions are.

The recent (ongoing) fiasco surrounding the 'Lockerbie Bombing' and it's connection with Libyan mineral and gas resources, may well serve to assist you in drawing your own conclusions, the daily newspapers will not.

The same Libyan source will reveal (if you study facts) just how much REAL value is placed upon human life when 'OIL' is in the pipeline. (pun)

As a great man once said, "They will not piss up my back and persuade me that I'm sweating" (excuse the term, his words not mine)

"They will not piss up my back and bite more than they can chew"..thats what you meant wasnt it
funny how before I got to the end of your relpy, I did predict you were going to mention OIL!! funny that.
The thing is oil doesnt spring into mind when I think about "operation freedom Iraq"
Example 9/11, was an act of killing on a massive scale and if you like was an act of war/murder of which was unprovoked.

On that note floda, I bid you good night, one must sleep