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The RoC should take the initiative if talks fail

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby The Cypriot » Tue Sep 08, 2009 9:43 pm

insan wrote:
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Remove everything, political equality of 2 communities and existence of "relics", "remnants" of Ottomans will still annoy them


Seriously, insan. If TCs - like my heroine, the wonderful Gulben Ergen - wanted to remove the flag (nothing else) as a goodwill gesture - would Turkey allow it?


Neither vast majority of TCs nor Turkey would allow "her." Just like vast majority of GCs would not allow anyone to remove those propaganda shits at every check point.


:cry: Poor Gulben...
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Postby wyoming cowboy » Tue Sep 08, 2009 9:50 pm

Yfreddy you miss the whole point of who suffocated the tc population before the opening of the green line, when the internet came into use in the mid 90s denktash would not even allow the tc to transmit out, for fear that they would be influenced, i remember that he allowed it once and then became frightened and cut it off...so as one point you your own people suffocated yourselves.....
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We may be saying the same thing in different ways. My point is that the RoC should offer a BBF that suits us, NOT Turkey. Once they reject it then we will have the ethical ground to release ourselves from the BBF concept and actively push for a unitary RoC, which is a fairer solution.

If on the other hand we continue the current situation for 20 more years, without Turkey having any cost or pressure, it will simply be impossible to reverse the situation on the ground (you cannot deport a million turks - that's what they are aiming for)

The aim has never been to have a million. The aim was always to restore the balance of the population before the GC attempt to cleanse Cyprus of TCs. Unfortunately even after 74, the tide continued due to our lovely cousins in the south with their suffocating activities.
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Sep 08, 2009 9:57 pm

The "RoC" lack the vision capability or desire to take a steps that would solve the problem.
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Postby YFred » Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:49 pm

wyoming cowboy wrote:Yfreddy you miss the whole point of who suffocated the tc population before the opening of the green line, when the internet came into use in the mid 90s denktash would not even allow the tc to transmit out, for fear that they would be influenced, i remember that he allowed it once and then became frightened and cut it off...so as one point you your own people suffocated yourselves.....
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Tony-4497 wrote:Oracle

We may be saying the same thing in different ways. My point is that the RoC should offer a BBF that suits us, NOT Turkey. Once they reject it then we will have the ethical ground to release ourselves from the BBF concept and actively push for a unitary RoC, which is a fairer solution.

If on the other hand we continue the current situation for 20 more years, without Turkey having any cost or pressure, it will simply be impossible to reverse the situation on the ground (you cannot deport a million turks - that's what they are aiming for)

The aim has never been to have a million. The aim was always to restore the balance of the population before the GC attempt to cleanse Cyprus of TCs. Unfortunately even after 74, the tide continued due to our lovely cousins in the south with their suffocating activities.

What difference did that make, when the external doors are shut, the internal doors become incidental and Psychological.
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Postby GeorgeV97qaue » Wed Sep 09, 2009 12:12 am

Viewpoint wrote:The "RoC" lack the vision capability or desire to take a steps that would solve the problem.



Again its down to us solve the problem. VP its down to both communitys you cant have evrything on plate.
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Postby Viewpoint » Wed Sep 09, 2009 12:15 am

GeorgeV97qaue wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:The "RoC" lack the vision capability or desire to take a steps that would solve the problem.



Again its down to us solve the problem. VP its down to both communitys you cant have evrything on plate.


You have stolen the "RoC" and have recognition on your side, you do not posses the attributes necessary to attract or offer TCs a deal they cannot say no to. Its takes vision flexiblity and a desire to achieve such goals and the GCs as we all know are donkeys not race horses.
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Postby Viewpoint » Wed Sep 09, 2009 12:16 am

GeorgeV97qaue wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:The "RoC" lack the vision capability or desire to take a steps that would solve the problem.



Again its down to us solve the problem. VP its down to both communitys you cant have evrything on plate.


You have stolen the "RoC" and have recognition on your side, you do not posses the attributes necessary to attract or offer TCs a deal they cannot say no to. Its takes vision flexiblity and a desire to achieve such goals and the GCs as we all know are donkeys not race horses.
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Postby DT. » Wed Sep 09, 2009 8:40 am

Viewpoint wrote:
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Viewpoint wrote:The "RoC" lack the vision capability or desire to take a steps that would solve the problem.



Again its down to us solve the problem. VP its down to both communitys you cant have evrything on plate.


You have stolen the "RoC" and have recognition on your side, you do not posses the attributes necessary to attract or offer TCs a deal they cannot say no to. Its takes vision flexiblity and a desire to achieve such goals and the GCs as we all know are donkeys not race horses.


You're telling me that Turkey and the TC's currently possess vision, flexibility and a desire to close a deal and offer the GC"s a deal they can't say no to?
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Postby zan » Wed Sep 09, 2009 9:29 am

DT. wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
GeorgeV97qaue wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:The "RoC" lack the vision capability or desire to take a steps that would solve the problem.



Again its down to us solve the problem. VP its down to both communitys you cant have evrything on plate.


You have stolen the "RoC" and have recognition on your side, you do not posses the attributes necessary to attract or offer TCs a deal they cannot say no to. Its takes vision flexiblity and a desire to achieve such goals and the GCs as we all know are donkeys not race horses.


You're telling me that Turkey and the TC's currently possess vision, flexibility and a desire to close a deal and offer the GC"s a deal they can't say no to?


We are not your PR team trying to sell you anything DT.....We are equal partners trying to find a middle ground....
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Postby DT. » Wed Sep 09, 2009 10:06 am

zan wrote:
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Viewpoint wrote:
GeorgeV97qaue wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:The "RoC" lack the vision capability or desire to take a steps that would solve the problem.



Again its down to us solve the problem. VP its down to both communitys you cant have evrything on plate.


You have stolen the "RoC" and have recognition on your side, you do not posses the attributes necessary to attract or offer TCs a deal they cannot say no to. Its takes vision flexiblity and a desire to achieve such goals and the GCs as we all know are donkeys not race horses.


You're telling me that Turkey and the TC's currently possess vision, flexibility and a desire to close a deal and offer the GC"s a deal they can't say no to?


We are not your PR team trying to sell you anything DT.....We are equal partners trying to find a middle ground....


I'm replying to VP's post about proposing a deal to the TC's that they cannot refuse.
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