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and now for the british bases.

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby brother » Tue Jul 19, 2005 2:06 pm

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Postby magikthrill » Tue Jul 19, 2005 2:09 pm

yes why were you illegally deported from cyprus?
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Postby cypezokyli » Tue Jul 19, 2005 2:15 pm

dear Brian Semmens
i am really sorry that u were deported from our beautiful island.
i dont know the reasons why u were deported but if they were indeed illegal i apologise.

revenge is not going to lead u anywhere. or to rephrase it will not lead u somewhere better. as it never helped this island.

the british bases do belong to u. end of that story.

u know i ve given it some thought, and considering the history of greece and turkey the last 100+ years, most probably if it werent for the british rule there would have been most probably either greeks or turks in this island. almost everywhere else they were living together... well they dont anymore.

but to thank u for that would be absurd. thats was simply the outcome and not the motive.
the british foreign policy, even though it is one to admire for its ability to achieve its aims, i dont think that one could even in his wildest dreams describe it as altruistic. as for the english protecting the muslim cypriots... (na ja, as the germans would say). if u search through this site u can find a poll about the opinion of gc and tc about britain. the attitude is clear and surprisingly gc and tc tend to agree on that!!! perhaps u could take a couple of minutes and wonder about it. or what lead to it.

despite the fact i am not religious, i have the feeling that the muslims of the world do have a general attitude of "please stop protecting us". but as u say this is my opinion and everybody has one.
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Postby DeportedFU2Cyprus » Tue Jul 19, 2005 2:23 pm

Dear Canned Moose

I am indeed British and surprising as this may seem, I was deported for being an illegal alien, having failed to leave Cyprus when my residency was rescinded, without reason or notice and I was given 14 days to leave. I was deported whilst my appeal to the Supreme Court was being heard. In fact I was deported just 12 hours before the Supreme Court was due to hear the case.

The official reason given is that I was critical of the Christian Cypriots, that I knew Rauf Denktas (which I do) and that I employed a criminal as a my driver. I had no idea my driver was a criminal and what is odd about this issue, is that my driver Savva, was introduced to me by a Policeman.

The real reason I was deported was because I became a business threat to one particular night club owner in Limassol; whose uncle was a former chief in KYP.

You can read the "evidence" the R of C presented to the Supreme Court, whch found against me (no surprises there,) which left me free to seek redress in a higher court, the ECHR.

Here is a link to the documents, etc.: http://uk.msnusers.com/CyprusDeportations


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Postby MicAtCyp » Tue Jul 19, 2005 8:24 pm

DeportedFU2Cyprus wrote: Our territories include the two Sovereign Base Areas; they are British territory and will remain so until we decide we no longer need them.


So in your so called "sovereign territory"
1.Can you collect taxes?
2.Can you have a central Bank, and autonomous Banking Institutions?
3.Can you build hotels and accomodate tourists?
4.Can you build factories?
5.Do you own the land and the houses of the GC people living in that area?
6.Can you sell even one single donum of land?
7.Can you pump oil out even 100m from the seashore?

wrote: Well we are there, we will stay there and that's that.


You are staying here illegally and we can knock you out anytime we want.We just tolerated you so far for other reasons. Just do some more provocations against us in the EU and elsewhere and you will see what will happen to your beloved "sovereign bases".

wrote: there is another way of looking at this; since September 1974 no Christian Cypriot has killed an innocent Muslim Cypriot, so I guess the "peace operation/invasion" worked and Britain can take some comfort for the lives saved.


How right you are! Of course, there is peace, there is always peace in cementaries never you heard? If some Al Kaida throws an atomic bomb in London you too will have so much peace you would wish to donate some to Edinburg....

wrote: the Christian Cypriots had already turned on the Muslims, so regardless of Britain’s action or inaction; they were already killing innocent Muslim Cypriots prior to the 20th July 1974 "peace operation/invasion." They certainly didn't need British help or assistance to kill their Muslim countrymen; they had been doing that for years.


And in your opinion the Mouslim Cypriots killed no Christian Cypriots during that period? Dude do you know that the total number of dead TCs and GCs was about the same and less than 1000 from each side? Do you know that the 1974 Invasion caused 6,000 dead from each side i.e 6 times as many?
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Postby Piratis » Tue Jul 19, 2005 11:21 pm

I call myself Brian Semmens or DeportedFU2Cyprus not:

And we call ourselves Greek Cypriots, not "Christian Cypriots".

So FU2 brian Semmens or whatever you want to be called, go give lessons of debating practice to others. If we needed you to give us lessons we wouldn't deport you, would we?

The British bases are remains of the colonial rule and nothing more. You own no territory in our country, and I hope no more innocent people around the world (including UK citizens) will have to die because of your criminal terrorist policies. Leave the world in peace!

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Postby DeportedFU2Cyprus » Wed Jul 20, 2005 12:08 am

Dear Piratis

I have already told you what I want to be called, I want to be called:

Brian Semmens or DeportedFU2Cyprus. It really isn't rocket science!

Now lets have a look at your "Greekness" shall we?

And we call ourselves Greek Cypriots, not "Christian Cypriots".


I could call myself a Martian, but just my saying it or willing it doesn't make it so! I would need to have some form of evidence that I was born on the planet Mars.

You (the collective you, not the personal you) are born in Cyprus, so you are Cypriots. You follow the Orthodox "Christian" Faith; which is to say that you believe in Christ, ergo you are Christians. As far as I am aware (I am willing to admit if I am wrong) but the last time I looked there is no geographic link between mainland Greece and Cyprus.

So you (the personal you) were either born on the island of Cyprus or of Cypriot parents who registered you with the authorities of Cyprus, which makes you a Cypriot.

So I hold that my "Christian" demarcation of your ethnicity is a far more accurate one than some fanciful idea that you are Greeks. You are not Greeks; you are Cypriots, first, middle and last.

I was born in London, my parents in the North of England and their parents, parents, parents were from the Borders (Scotland;) so should I call myself "Scottish English?" No of course I should not, I am English and my citizenship is British.

I wasn't deported for giving debating lessons to Cypriots, so grow up.

The bases will stay until the UK have no further use for them and all the bluster in the world will not change that one simple fact. So learn to live with your disappointment.

Brian Semmens

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Postby Piratis » Wed Jul 20, 2005 12:31 am

I have already told you what I want to be called


I could call myself a Martian, but just my saying it or willing it doesn't make it so!


So basically what everybody calls himself doesn't matter, right?


By the way, I am not christian, I am atheist, and I am Greek Cypriot.

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Postby Piratis » Wed Jul 20, 2005 12:40 am

One example, a veryu good friend of mine was born in the bases. Guess which passport she carries? This will tell you if UK is sovereign over bases.


So if Cyprus gives passports to people born in some other country this would mean that this other country is owned by Cyprus?
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