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[YFred]

Which "sovereignty" are you talking about.....The Zurich agreement by any chance

The one acknowledged and approved by the UN.

The same Un that gave us the Annan plan?....Of course they gave you the option to retract what you signed in the first place

Come on Zan, play the white man, don't mention the dreaded Annan plan, you know very well how upset our GC friends get.

[Get Real!]

Can someone let us know just as soon as Loucas and the professor get it all in writing, because I’m so excited with this new revelation that I’m prepared to take all the blame for the Cyprus problem, and even give detailed gruesome accounts of all people I killed, maimed, and tortured!

[Alpeis]

Wise words from Mr LC. I wonder if GCs will ever wake up. Understand the responsibility of the part they have played and reach out to their TC cousins with understanding rather than blame. We wait in anticipation that the pigs may fly.

It’s time for Greek Cypriots to take part of the blame
By Loucas Charalambous

“THE CYPRUS problem will be solved only when the Greek Cypriots admit and assume their responsibilities for its creation.”

The above observation, by university lecturer Alexis Heraclides, is probably the wisest view ever expressed in relation to the Cyprus problem. Its correctness is proved on a daily basis.

Because Greek Cypriots, with their behaviour, show that not only have they not recognised our side’s share of the blame but the denial of this gets worse with the passing of time. The obdurate refusal of the average Greek Cypriot to accept any blame for the mess we are in features triumphantly in the media every day.

The story about the 1974 execution of the five Greek Cypriot prisoners, whose remains were recently identified through DNA testing, provided a perfect opportunity for an exhibition of this mentality. Everyone urged the government to report Turkey to the world and demand the setting up of war tribunals to try the Turkish government.

It is as if we did not know for 35 years now that all these unfortunate individuals listed as missing by our state were dead, many of them having been captured and killed either by the Turkish troops or the Turkish Cypriots. Now everyone is pretending to be surprised – our state, political parties and newspapers – by the revelations about the execution of prisoners.

But had not Rauf Denktash officially informed us, many years ago, that there had been executions of prisoners in 1974? Why are we surprised now?

It is important to note that while everyone is calling for the setting up of tribunals to try Turkey for the execution of prisoners and civilians, nobody is prepared to admit that we were responsible for similar ‘achievements’ during the 1963-74 period, another decade of bloodshed.

In fact, when one journalist dared to refer to a similar crime by our side, all the super-patriots of the country, led by the super-patriots of Phileleftheros, turned on him. According to our most patriotic newspaper, all Turks and the Turkish state were responsible for all the killings of Greek Cypriots, while if there had been some ‘acts of extremism’ (this is how it refers to the killings of Turkish Cypriots), a few ‘extremist elements’ were to blame.

The super-patriots of Phileleftheros had never heard Nicos Koshis, the chief of staff of the Akritas Organisation, stating on television that the late Archbishop Makarios had set up the illegal organisation and had chaired meetings at the presidential palace, during which he personally gave instructions about its running and operations. It was the ‘fighters’ of this organisation who were killing Turkish Cypriot civilians and dumping them down wells in 1963.

A few days ago, on a radio show, a woman caller, was hysterically insisting that all that happened in 1963 was that Makarios proposed the amendment of 13 points of constitution for debate and the “Turks got up and left”. This is the only version of history that exists for most Greek Cypriots.

For as long as Greek Cypriots carry on living with their illusions, based on official myths, they will never be able to accept their share of the blame and the Cyprus problem would never be solved, as Heraclides correctly observed.
Copyright © Cyprus Mail 2009

No way! Waiting GC's to wake up is the same as fucking for virginity

[zan]

Which "sovereignty" are you talking about.....The Zurich agreement by any chance

The one acknowledged and approved by the UN.

The same Un that gave us the Annan plan?....Of course they gave you the option to retract what you signed in the first place

Come on Zan, play the white man, don't mention the dreaded Annan plan, you know very well how upset our GC friends get.

What do you give a man with long arms and a short memory?


A reminder!!!

[Get Real!]

By the way Lucas… do you suppose that this brilliant strategy could also work the other way round?

If Turkish Cypriots were to confess their wrong-doings would they finally get a recognized TC state?

Man… I’m starting to have premature ejaculations!

Confess your sins o’ Cypriots, and you shall be redeemed!!!

Could this nutty professor be God in disguise?

[YFred]

By the way Lucas… do you suppose that this brilliant strategy could also work the other way round?

If Turkish Cypriots were to confess their wrong-doings would they finally get a recognized TC state?

Man… I’m starting to have premature ejaculations!

Confess your sins o’ Cypriots, and you shall be redeemed!!!

Could this nutty professor be God in disguise?

So Game Boy, now that you accept your responsibilities, how do you feel about your Muhtar Makarios setting up death squads for killing innocent TCs, totally under internation law with the blessing of true human rights and true democracy and true justice?

[Piratis]

Of course GCs have "part of the blame". The question is how much of the blame each side has?

Lets see:

Turks:

1) The ones who started all conflicts and wars in Cyprus (1571 - 1821, 1958, 1974) and invaded multiple times our island.

2) They killed 10s of thousands of Cypriots.

3) They collaborated with other foreign Imperialists in order to deny to the Cypriot people their freedom and self-determination.

4) Today they illegally occupy 1/3rd of Republic of Cyprus, continue to bring Turkish Settlers and continue to commit a vast number of human rights violations.

Cypriots:

1) In the conflicts and wars which the Turks started, they fought back killing some 100s of Turks.

So how much blame each side has?

[zan]

By the way Lucas… do you suppose that this brilliant strategy could also work the other way round?

If Turkish Cypriots were to confess their wrong-doings would they finally get a recognized TC state?

Man… I’m starting to have premature ejaculations!

Confess your sins o’ Cypriots, and you shall be redeemed!!!

Could this nutty professor be God in disguise?

Oh Yey! God is trying to get away from his "Goody two shoes" image and had to don a disguise to protect his new street image

[YFred]

Of course GCs have "part of the blame". The question is how much of the blame each side has?

Lets see:

Turks:

1) The ones who started all conflicts and wars in Cyprus (1571 - 1821, 1958, 1974) and invaded multiple times our island.

2) They killed 10s of thousands of Cypriots.

3) They collaborated with other foreign Imperialists in order to deny to the Cypriot people their freedom and self-determination.

4) Today they illegally occupy 1/3rd of Republic of Cyprus, continue to bring Turkish Settlers and continue to commit a vast number of human rights violations.

Cypriots:

1) In the conflicts and wars which the Turks started, they fought back killing some 100s of Turks.

So how much blame each side has?

Piratis, the article is for you and the likes of you.

[Get Real!]

By the way Lucas… do you suppose that this brilliant strategy could also work the other way round?

If Turkish Cypriots were to confess their wrong-doings would they finally get a recognized TC state?

Man… I’m starting to have premature ejaculations!

Confess your sins o’ Cypriots, and you shall be redeemed!!!

Could this nutty professor be God in disguise?

So Game Boy, now that you accept your responsibilities, how do you feel about your Muhtar Makarios setting up death squads for killing innocent TCs, totally under internation law with the blessing of true human rights and true democracy and true justice?

My good man, I accept 100% of the responsibility and am ready for your reporters to take down all the details!

Now tell me when your fine Turkish troops will be on their way… thanks in advance!