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Postby SSBubbles » Sun Sep 06, 2009 10:21 pm

denizaksulu wrote:Alcohol for medicinal use is definitely not of Greek etymology, but I hear Oracle peeping around the corner to meet your challenge. Bless her :lol:
No more alcohol for me this month.


:shock: So now you profess to see and hear O? You must be blessed - I would not dare say 'cursed'! :wink:

No alcohol in my birthday month? Why? :(
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Postby Oracle » Sun Sep 06, 2009 10:22 pm

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Oracle wrote:I only have "O" Level English Language and English Literature and we were just required to write essays without any formal teaching of grammar. We had to absorb it by osmosis through writing and reading. That's partly why I gravitated to the sciences where there is greater rigour in using correct definitions of words and terms ... And of course it's all Greek -- so it suited my lackadaisical side ... :lol:


It is a pity that you were not taught correctly! My English teacher instilled to her class (or me at least) the importance of correct grammar - even if our local dialects 'dictated' otherwise. I thank her for that.

Science is 'all Greek' now is it? :roll:

Right, back to the important things in life - the cricket and my wine!
:) Come on England - they need all the help they can get!


You were incredibly lucky to study in the 50s and 60s before they did away with formal grammar (such a long time ago; :D may explain why you have failed to retain it). Anyway, since I was schooled in the 70s, my peers and I had to put up with a lot of scholastic experiments ... some of us survived and some did not!

BTW I think you have a comprehension problem with idioms ("It's all Greek to me!").
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Postby CBBB » Sun Sep 06, 2009 10:24 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
SSBubbles wrote:
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SSBubbles wrote:
Oracle wrote:I only have "O" Level English Language and English Literature and we were just required to write essays without any formal teaching of grammar. We had to absorb it by osmosis through writing and reading. That's partly why I gravitated to the sciences where there is greater rigour in using correct definitions of words and terms ... And of course it's all Greek -- so it suited my lackadaisical side ... :lol:


It is a pity that you were not taught correctly! My English teacher instilled to her class (or me at least) the importance of correct grammar - even if our local dialects 'dictated' otherwise. I thank her for that.

Science is 'all Greek' now is it? :roll:

Right, back to the important things in life - the cricket and my wine!
:) Come on England - they need all the help they can get!

I agree with you 'O' we also did not have any 'formal' teaching of the correct grammer. Like you it came about through reading and writing. My point was that this lack of formal teaching makes it very difficult to learn a second (or third) language..
Bubbles you were very lucky in having a teacher who taught you the correct grammer.
BTW a lot of science is literally 'all Greek' one only has to look around any hospital to see where our medical terms came from ie 'pedia'trics, pathology, 'geria'trics etc. Also in my own specialist area 'micro' organisms and 'exo'toxins amongst others.


:x Richard! the word is GRAMMAR! (My former English teacher will not pass you tonight!)

Yes, us Brits are extremely lazy when in comes to learning new languages - and believe me I have met many here in Cyprus! I am still learning Greek and one day I hope to master the language - 'forever hopeful'! lol

I fully understand medical terminology and the 'route' of their words, but to suggest that this is ALL GREEK is a bit far fetched even for O! :roll:



Alcohol for medicinal use is definitely not of Greek etymology, but I hear Oracle peeping around the corner to meet your challenge. Bless her :lol:

No more alcohol for me this month.


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Postby denizaksulu » Sun Sep 06, 2009 10:25 pm

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denizaksulu wrote:Alcohol for medicinal use is definitely not of Greek etymology, but I hear Oracle peeping around the corner to meet your challenge. Bless her :lol:
No more alcohol for me this month.


:shock: So now you profess to see and hear O? You must be blessed - I would not dare say 'cursed'! :wink:

No alcohol in my birthday month? Why? :(



Dont worry, if it will please you I will drink a slution of KCN. I am still suffering from last nights inebriation.

Damn headache. :twisted:
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Postby RichardB » Sun Sep 06, 2009 10:26 pm

The word alcohol I believe comes from the arabic word for it which is alghawl which in a literal sense means 'the spirit' al = the /ghawl = spirit which is wher we get our word spirits (as in whiskey etc)

nb; I stand to be corrected
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Postby CBBB » Sun Sep 06, 2009 10:28 pm

RichardB wrote:The word alcohol I believe comes from the arabic word for it which is alghawl which in a literal sense means 'the spirit' al = the /ghawl = spirit which is wher we get our word spirits (as in whiskey etc)

nb; I stand to be corrected


Sounds good to me, but I am on my n'th bottle of KEO!
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Postby denizaksulu » Sun Sep 06, 2009 10:29 pm

RichardB wrote:The word alcohol I believe comes from the arabic word for it which is alghawl which in a literal sense means 'the spirit' al = the /ghawl = spirit which is wher we get our word spirits (as in whiskey etc)

nb; I stand to be corrected



al kohl is the word you look for. :lol:

You were on the right track.
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Postby SSBubbles » Sun Sep 06, 2009 10:34 pm

[quote="Oracle"]
O gori! As you and everyone on this forum know that you are way above me in actual years and fast approaching 61 (sorry, that should be 71, no, no, I mean 51! :roll: :wink: :lol: your jealousy knows no bounds and comes as no surprise to anyone of the forum!)
Please please do tell us that you do not lie to your son though........................ :roll:

I also take it that you have not yet grasped the aspect of 'sarcasm'! :roll: :roll: Would you like the name and address of my former teacher? :wink: :roll: :lol: (she is probably younger than you anyway!) :lol:
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Postby RichardB » Sun Sep 06, 2009 10:35 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
RichardB wrote:The word alcohol I believe comes from the arabic word for it which is alghawl which in a literal sense means 'the spirit' al = the /ghawl = spirit which is wher we get our word spirits (as in whiskey etc)

nb; I stand to be corrected



al kohl is the word you look for. :lol:


I stand corrected Deniz

is kohl something to do with distillation?
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Postby SSBubbles » Sun Sep 06, 2009 10:36 pm

CBBB wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
SSBubbles wrote:
RichardB wrote:
SSBubbles wrote:
Oracle wrote:I only have "O" Level English Language and English Literature and we were just required to write essays without any formal teaching of grammar. We had to absorb it by osmosis through writing and reading. That's partly why I gravitated to the sciences where there is greater rigour in using correct definitions of words and terms ... And of course it's all Greek -- so it suited my lackadaisical side ... :lol:


It is a pity that you were not taught correctly! My English teacher instilled to her class (or me at least) the importance of correct grammar - even if our local dialects 'dictated' otherwise. I thank her for that.

Science is 'all Greek' now is it? :roll:

Right, back to the important things in life - the cricket and my wine!
:) Come on England - they need all the help they can get!

I agree with you 'O' we also did not have any 'formal' teaching of the correct grammer. Like you it came about through reading and writing. My point was that this lack of formal teaching makes it very difficult to learn a second (or third) language..
Bubbles you were very lucky in having a teacher who taught you the correct grammer.
BTW a lot of science is literally 'all Greek' one only has to look around any hospital to see where our medical terms came from ie 'pedia'trics, pathology, 'geria'trics etc. Also in my own specialist area 'micro' organisms and 'exo'toxins amongst others.


:x Richard! the word is GRAMMAR! (My former English teacher will not pass you tonight!)

Yes, us Brits are extremely lazy when in comes to learning new languages - and believe me I have met many here in Cyprus! I am still learning Greek and one day I hope to master the language - 'forever hopeful'! lol

I fully understand medical terminology and the 'route' of their words, but to suggest that this is ALL GREEK is a bit far fetched even for O! :roll:



Alcohol for medicinal use is definitely not of Greek etymology, but I hear Oracle peeping around the corner to meet your challenge. Bless her :lol:

No more alcohol for me this month.


Ramadan?


Again? :roll: :?
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