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Turkey has just hardened it stand against EU and RoC

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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Sep 05, 2009 1:36 pm

eleni wrote:I don't get this "Isolation imposed on TC's " this isolation was caused by Turkey's invasion (under the pretense of Guarantor-ship) and continues to be so.

This has nothing to do with helping TC's and everything to do with keeping something taken by brute force.

Why can't GC's live in their own property? work their own land? and they talk of Isolation!!!!


Lets test your knowledge when did the isolation of th TCs begin?
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Sep 05, 2009 1:37 pm

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Viewpoint wrote:You GCs are so deluded do you honestly think that Turkey moving further away from the EU will benefit your goals. how so


Deluded? Cypriot citizens' – of whatever ethnic background – goals are to enjoy freedom, security and prosperity inside the EU, without threats or interference from a local bully.


Your local bully is different from ours which is you GCs.
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Postby The Cypriot » Sat Sep 05, 2009 2:37 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:You GCs are so deluded do you honestly think that Turkey moving further away from the EU will benefit your goals. how so


Deluded? Cypriot citizens' – of whatever ethnic background – goals are to enjoy freedom, security and prosperity inside the EU, without threats or interference from a local bully.


Your local bully is different from ours which is you GCs.


See you in court, then.
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Postby DT. » Sat Sep 05, 2009 2:48 pm

Turkey can harden anything it likes. All I know is that everytime Kyprianou gets to include one more bad report on Turkey in the EU council he gets a little hard himself. 8)
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Postby Nikitas » Sat Sep 05, 2009 2:52 pm

It is one more of the same. Turkey will not open ports etc and the EU dossiers will remain closed, which just about suits everyone, especially the French and the Germans.

Cyprus loses nothing by the continuing closure of the ports and airports. Alternatively it gains nothing by their opening. It is a symbolic move which means sweet FA in reality.

And Turkey once more shows that it does not understand the basics of the accession process. It is not a negotiation, it is an examination to be passed by a candidate country. None of the others who went through the same process are willing to alter this fact. What they endured all new members endure. There is no special case scenario here.
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Postby bill cobbett » Sat Sep 05, 2009 3:11 pm

Nikitas wrote:It is one more of the same. Turkey will not open ports etc and the EU dossiers will remain closed, which just about suits everyone, especially the French and the Germans.

Cyprus loses nothing by the continuing closure of the ports and airports. Alternatively it gains nothing by their opening. It is a symbolic move which means sweet FA in reality.

And Turkey once more shows that it does not understand the basics of the accession process. It is not a negotiation, it is an examination to be passed by a candidate country. None of the others who went through the same process are willing to alter this fact. What they endured all new members endure. There is no special case scenario here.


Yes, this "negotiations" word keeps coming up from Turkey.

It appears often in the EU Accession process and of course in our own Little Problem. So many, many statements by politicians from Turkey and the Illegal Regime refer to "negotiations". So often does it occur that I believe there must be some kind of characteristic in the Fascist States that looks at any potential agreement as some kind of bazaar.

If I wanted to join a club, say the local golf club, I'd look at its rule book to see whether the membership rules sat comfortably with me. If they didn't I'd clear off elsewhere.

Much the same applies to our Little Problem where Turkey feels it can negotiate the usual human rights. Anyone fancy half a human right?
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Re: Turkey has just hardened it stand against EU and RoC

Postby Get Real! » Sat Sep 05, 2009 3:18 pm

YFred wrote:Turkey has just hardened it stand against EU and RoC. What interesting times the next six months will be? There is a definite pattern here. Turkey is shifting to harder line on the Cyprus issue. It looks like GCs have missed the boat one last time.

No Y-Fronts, there's nothing new here from 5 years ago.
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Postby insan » Sat Sep 05, 2009 3:19 pm

Nikitas wrote:It is one more of the same. Turkey will not open ports etc and the EU dossiers will remain closed, which just about suits everyone, especially the French and the Germans.

Cyprus loses nothing by the continuing closure of the ports and airports. Alternatively it gains nothing by their opening. It is a symbolic move which means sweet FA in reality.

And Turkey once more shows that it does not understand the basics of the accession process. It is not a negotiation, it is an examination to be passed by a candidate country. None of the others who went through the same process are willing to alter this fact. What they endured all new members endure. There is no special case scenario here.


Although u r right abt Turkey is subected to the same basics of accession process of EU; there r some other issues that also affect Turkey's EU accession.

Existing Turco-Phobia and Islamo-Phobia r on the uptrend in EU.

Conflicting French, Greek and GC interests with interests of Turkey and TCs.

Conflicting US perspective and Christian Democrat perspective over Turkey's EU accession.

None of the other EU member states faced with such global problems during the process of their EU accession, except GC administration which was accepted by EU as a consequence of the blackmail of GOG and anti-Turkish political groups of EU who r against Turkey's EU accession. It is obvious that if required, those anti-Turkish political groups of EU will use Greek Cypriot administration as a pawn for their own interests or common interests of Greeks/GCs and those anti-Turkish political groups of EU.

Neither Turks nor TCs r that stupid Nikitas, as u and some others expected. It's not difficult to analyze what's going on behind the secenes...
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Postby The Cypriot » Sat Sep 05, 2009 4:02 pm

insan wrote:
Although u r right abt Turkey is subected to the same basics of accession process of EU; there r some other issues that also affect Turkey's EU accession.

Existing Turco-Phobia and Islamo-Phobia r on the uptrend in EU.


Can't think why when Turkey is such a reasonable, civilised country which upholds human rights and treats its neighbours and its minorities with such dignity and respect.

insan wrote:Conflicting French, Greek and GC interests with interests of Turkey and TCs.


TCs just shut up and do as they're told. As for Turkey? If their interests conflict with EU interests, then why do they want to join? No one's forcing them.


insan wrote:Conflicting US perspective and Christian Democrat perspective over Turkey's EU accession.


US has no say in Turkey's EU accession.

insan wrote:None of the other EU member states faced with such global problems during the process of their EU accession, except GC administration which was accepted by EU as a consequence of the blackmail of GOG and anti-Turkish political groups of EU who r against Turkey's EU accession. It is obvious that if required, those anti-Turkish political groups of EU will use Greek Cypriot administration as a pawn for their own interests or common interests of Greeks/GCs and those anti-Turkish political groups of EU.


No one likes Turkey. No one likes Millwall. Is there a link fo you think?

insan wrote:Neither Turks nor TCs r that stupid Nikitas, as u and some others expected. It's not difficult to analyze what's going on behind the secenes...


Stupid hooligans, the pair of you!
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Postby insan » Sat Sep 05, 2009 4:16 pm

U over simplified, over generalized and thus twisted my opinions, The Cypriot. Please read and try again, this time without a childish manner...
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