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Allow paid Turkish propagandist to copy-paste propaganda?

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Total votes : 35

Postby bill cobbett » Sat Sep 05, 2009 11:30 am

denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Nikephoros wrote:You should check out Google Groups archive of usenet posts from the late 80s and early 90s when the few internet users were mostly American college students who used their actual names and not invented user names. Alot of people associated with the Turkish government controlled media post spammed all usenet to deny the Armenian genocide. One Armenian poster named David Davidian(since he knew Turkish) proved that the notorious Turkish spam-bots were just posting what would later appear in Turkish media.
The totalitarian Turkish state continues its tactics with tasking one of its minions in the Sandjak of Cyprus to copy-paste bomb Bayrak.

See for your yourselves:
http://www.google.com/search?client=ope ... 8&oe=utf-8
http://imperium.lenin.ru/~verbit/scs/Mutlu_whatis.html

What a pathetic and insecure state and society.


Yeah they are unashamedly against the truth!

They are not even worth discussing with for the sake of human engagement.

Problem is, if Admin stopped halil from doing this, imagine the backlash!

It puts our Admin in a very dificult situation and we can't ask him to do such a thing.

BAYRAK will start a massive anti Cyprus-Forum campaign or try and destroy it in some way.

They do not accept justified actions aimed at them ....



I have the perfect solution Oracle.

You can change the name from Cyprus Forum to Greek ONLY Forum . Problem solved.

On a more serious note, perhaps Halil could be persuaded to add his own comments to all the C & P he does. I think that is a fair compromise. Those commentators on the issue have also hinted at this. :wink:


I'll hint at it again.

I'd also like to hear from Halil on this matter. Let the Accused come forward for a reasonably fair trial by a jury of his peers whilst our O starts sharpening the Guillotine.
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Postby denizaksulu » Sat Sep 05, 2009 11:32 am

YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Nikephoros wrote:You should check out Google Groups archive of usenet posts from the late 80s and early 90s when the few internet users were mostly American college students who used their actual names and not invented user names. Alot of people associated with the Turkish government controlled media post spammed all usenet to deny the Armenian genocide. One Armenian poster named David Davidian(since he knew Turkish) proved that the notorious Turkish spam-bots were just posting what would later appear in Turkish media.
The totalitarian Turkish state continues its tactics with tasking one of its minions in the Sandjak of Cyprus to copy-paste bomb Bayrak.

See for your yourselves:
http://www.google.com/search?client=ope ... 8&oe=utf-8
http://imperium.lenin.ru/~verbit/scs/Mutlu_whatis.html

What a pathetic and insecure state and society.


Yeah they are unashamedly against the truth!

They are not even worth discussing with for the sake of human engagement.

Problem is, if Admin stopped halil from doing this, imagine the backlash!

It puts our Admin in a very dificult situation and we can't ask him to do such a thing.

BAYRAK will start a massive anti Cyprus-Forum campaign or try and destroy it in some way.

They do not accept justified actions aimed at them ....



I have the perfect solution Oracle.

You can change the name from Cyprus Forum to Greek ONLY Forum . Problem solved.

On a more serious note, perhaps Halil could be persuaded to add his own comments to all the C & P he does. I think that is a fair compromise. Those commentators on the issue have also hinted at this. :wink:

Deniz, surely once the forum begins to discuss the post, Halil does post his thoughts on it. This is a typical GC propaganda ploy to silence the TCs point of view.
Bullshit to all the extreme GCs including the Shitfeatures.



I am trying to mediate here without being silenced. The GC side will have to put up with HalilsEnglish now. I think thats a suitable punishment for Sodoff for trying to silence the VoTC's. :lol:
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Postby denizaksulu » Sat Sep 05, 2009 11:35 am

bill cobbett wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Nikephoros wrote:You should check out Google Groups archive of usenet posts from the late 80s and early 90s when the few internet users were mostly American college students who used their actual names and not invented user names. Alot of people associated with the Turkish government controlled media post spammed all usenet to deny the Armenian genocide. One Armenian poster named David Davidian(since he knew Turkish) proved that the notorious Turkish spam-bots were just posting what would later appear in Turkish media.
The totalitarian Turkish state continues its tactics with tasking one of its minions in the Sandjak of Cyprus to copy-paste bomb Bayrak.

See for your yourselves:
http://www.google.com/search?client=ope ... 8&oe=utf-8
http://imperium.lenin.ru/~verbit/scs/Mutlu_whatis.html

What a pathetic and insecure state and society.


Yeah they are unashamedly against the truth!

They are not even worth discussing with for the sake of human engagement.

Problem is, if Admin stopped halil from doing this, imagine the backlash!

It puts our Admin in a very dificult situation and we can't ask him to do such a thing.

BAYRAK will start a massive anti Cyprus-Forum campaign or try and destroy it in some way.

They do not accept justified actions aimed at them ....



I have the perfect solution Oracle.

You can change the name from Cyprus Forum to Greek ONLY Forum . Problem solved.

On a more serious note, perhaps Halil could be persuaded to add his own comments to all the C & P he does. I think that is a fair compromise. Those commentators on the issue have also hinted at this. :wink:


I'll hint at it again.

I'd also like to hear from Halil on this matter. Let the Accused come forward for a reasonably fair trial by a jury of his peers whilst our O starts sharpening the Guillotine.


Ok DP, I also accuse Sodoff, he too should be on trial. :lol:
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Postby YFred » Sat Sep 05, 2009 11:36 am

denizaksulu wrote:
YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Nikephoros wrote:You should check out Google Groups archive of usenet posts from the late 80s and early 90s when the few internet users were mostly American college students who used their actual names and not invented user names. Alot of people associated with the Turkish government controlled media post spammed all usenet to deny the Armenian genocide. One Armenian poster named David Davidian(since he knew Turkish) proved that the notorious Turkish spam-bots were just posting what would later appear in Turkish media.
The totalitarian Turkish state continues its tactics with tasking one of its minions in the Sandjak of Cyprus to copy-paste bomb Bayrak.

See for your yourselves:
http://www.google.com/search?client=ope ... 8&oe=utf-8
http://imperium.lenin.ru/~verbit/scs/Mutlu_whatis.html

What a pathetic and insecure state and society.


Yeah they are unashamedly against the truth!

They are not even worth discussing with for the sake of human engagement.

Problem is, if Admin stopped halil from doing this, imagine the backlash!

It puts our Admin in a very dificult situation and we can't ask him to do such a thing.

BAYRAK will start a massive anti Cyprus-Forum campaign or try and destroy it in some way.

They do not accept justified actions aimed at them ....



I have the perfect solution Oracle.

You can change the name from Cyprus Forum to Greek ONLY Forum . Problem solved.

On a more serious note, perhaps Halil could be persuaded to add his own comments to all the C & P he does. I think that is a fair compromise. Those commentators on the issue have also hinted at this. :wink:

Deniz, surely once the forum begins to discuss the post, Halil does post his thoughts on it. This is a typical GC propaganda ploy to silence the TCs point of view.
Bullshit to all the extreme GCs including the Shitfeatures.



I am trying to mediate here without being silenced. The GC side will have to put up with HalilsEnglish now. I think thats a suitable punishment for Sodoff for trying to silence the VoTC's. :lol:

I agree with you there. I think they will soon say sorry to Halil. :lol:
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Postby Jerry » Sat Sep 05, 2009 11:50 am

This whole thread is a load of COCK. We all know that Halil's posts are propaganda quotes from bayrak so what's the problem. They may be illegal but this is not a court of law it's a discussion forum. If you are worried that a visitor to the site may take his posts seriously :lol: :lol: :lol: then follow them with a disclaimer. He can't add too much of his own view to the quote because his english is so bad.
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Postby bill cobbett » Sat Sep 05, 2009 11:53 am

denizaksulu wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Nikephoros wrote:You should check out Google Groups archive of usenet posts from the late 80s and early 90s when the few internet users were mostly American college students who used their actual names and not invented user names. Alot of people associated with the Turkish government controlled media post spammed all usenet to deny the Armenian genocide. One Armenian poster named David Davidian(since he knew Turkish) proved that the notorious Turkish spam-bots were just posting what would later appear in Turkish media.
The totalitarian Turkish state continues its tactics with tasking one of its minions in the Sandjak of Cyprus to copy-paste bomb Bayrak.

See for your yourselves:
http://www.google.com/search?client=ope ... 8&oe=utf-8
http://imperium.lenin.ru/~verbit/scs/Mutlu_whatis.html

What a pathetic and insecure state and society.


Yeah they are unashamedly against the truth!

They are not even worth discussing with for the sake of human engagement.

Problem is, if Admin stopped halil from doing this, imagine the backlash!

It puts our Admin in a very dificult situation and we can't ask him to do such a thing.

BAYRAK will start a massive anti Cyprus-Forum campaign or try and destroy it in some way.

They do not accept justified actions aimed at them ....



I have the perfect solution Oracle.

You can change the name from Cyprus Forum to Greek ONLY Forum . Problem solved.

On a more serious note, perhaps Halil could be persuaded to add his own comments to all the C & P he does. I think that is a fair compromise. Those commentators on the issue have also hinted at this. :wink:


I'll hint at it again.

I'd also like to hear from Halil on this matter. Let the Accused come forward for a reasonably fair trial by a jury of his peers whilst our O starts sharpening the Guillotine.


Ok DP, I also accuse Sodoff, he too should be on trial. :lol:


J'accuse .... Freddie.

Get him before this Court before a slow public execution.
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Postby YFred » Sat Sep 05, 2009 11:59 am

bill cobbett wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Nikephoros wrote:You should check out Google Groups archive of usenet posts from the late 80s and early 90s when the few internet users were mostly American college students who used their actual names and not invented user names. Alot of people associated with the Turkish government controlled media post spammed all usenet to deny the Armenian genocide. One Armenian poster named David Davidian(since he knew Turkish) proved that the notorious Turkish spam-bots were just posting what would later appear in Turkish media.
The totalitarian Turkish state continues its tactics with tasking one of its minions in the Sandjak of Cyprus to copy-paste bomb Bayrak.

See for your yourselves:
http://www.google.com/search?client=ope ... 8&oe=utf-8
http://imperium.lenin.ru/~verbit/scs/Mutlu_whatis.html

What a pathetic and insecure state and society.


Yeah they are unashamedly against the truth!

They are not even worth discussing with for the sake of human engagement.

Problem is, if Admin stopped halil from doing this, imagine the backlash!

It puts our Admin in a very dificult situation and we can't ask him to do such a thing.

BAYRAK will start a massive anti Cyprus-Forum campaign or try and destroy it in some way.

They do not accept justified actions aimed at them ....



I have the perfect solution Oracle.

You can change the name from Cyprus Forum to Greek ONLY Forum . Problem solved.

On a more serious note, perhaps Halil could be persuaded to add his own comments to all the C & P he does. I think that is a fair compromise. Those commentators on the issue have also hinted at this. :wink:


I'll hint at it again.

I'd also like to hear from Halil on this matter. Let the Accused come forward for a reasonably fair trial by a jury of his peers whilst our O starts sharpening the Guillotine.


Ok DP, I also accuse Sodoff, he too should be on trial. :lol:


J'accuse .... Freddie.

Get him before this Court before a slow public execution.

Honest gov it weren't me. It were him that did it.
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Postby Nikephoros » Sat Sep 05, 2009 1:16 pm

Here is the usenet post I was thinking of:
David Davidian on Usenet in 1993 wrote:Argic is the continuation of Hasan Mutlu who began posting in September of
1988. When Hasan Mutlu began posting, it soon became clear we were reading the
UseNet manifestation of the Turkish Foreign Ministry. The postings of Mutlu
mirrored entry-for-entry an anti-Armenian series aired on Radio Turkey called
the _Armenian File_. Not only were the topics the same between Mutlu and the
Voice of Turkey, but the topic of the last airing of this _Armenian File_ was
predicted after reading the postings of Mutlu, because we always read the
posting on UseNet BEFORE we heard it on Radio Turkey.

In late April/early May of 1991, the Turkish Ambassador to the then USSR was
in [Soviet] Armenia for several weeks, during which time ALL anti-Armenian
propaganda, outside of Turkey, was ordered suspended by the Turkish government.
Alas, Mutlu's postings stopped, but then started up again when the ban was
lifted.


When Ahmet Cosar, who runs Argic's machine, felt as though he was threatened
by a Greek, Cosar received Turkish secret police protection. [Note: if
provoked, I can find the public posting by that Greek and re-post it]. This
event was posted in a public article on UseNet and was not refuted by Cosar.

Now, I might agree that Cosar-Mutlu-Argic have made more enemies among Turks
than with anybody else, but basically C-M-A is still a Turkish governmental-
sponsored anti-Armenian propaganda campaign gone bad.

If we are to believe the Turkish government, or any other Turks, have nothing
to do with C-M-A project, the following story would tend to negate such a
thesis. This story was conveyed to me by a friend of mine. He told me of a
fellow named David Davidian [not me] who wanted to travel through Turkey to
get to Armenia in late 1992. This Davidian lived in the Los Angeles area. He
went to a Turkish consulate to apply for a visa to travel through Turkey, for
he was not a full US citizen. The Turkish consulate staff asked this Davidian
if he knew of a David Davidian in Boston[Nikephoros: because the Davidian writing this usenet post from Boston, was paid by an Armenian association to post on usenet to counter the defamation of Argic and Mutlu against Armenians], if he was related to any Davidians
in Boston, if he knew any Davidians in Boston, if he had been to Boston, if
he knew anybody who knew a Davidian in Boston, etc. etc. This person was
bewildered about this Davidian from Boston. When my friend [a reader of
UseNet] heard this story, in person, he subsequently explained the situation
regarding the Davidian from Boston.

The Turkish government is clearly involved in this failed mechanism of anti-
Armenian and anti-Greek revisionism. It's no wonder a Turk would distance
themselves from such a pack of fanatics!

Source: Mon, 4 Oct 1993 Usenet post


At least Turkey has evolved since 1988-1993! It is still using paid propagandists to intervene heavily in the internet, but the "Bayrak Halil" of the late 2000s at least is open and honest about it. Whoever said that Mohammedan Turks cannot democratize?

Nikephoros wrote:You should check out Google Groups archive of usenet posts from the late 80s and early 90s when the few internet users were mostly American college students who used their actual names and not invented user names. Alot of people associated with the Turkish government controlled media post spammed all usenet to deny the Armenian genocide. One Armenian poster named David Davidian(since he knew Turkish) proved that the notorious Turkish spam-bots were just posting what would later appear in Turkish media.
The totalitarian Turkish state continues its tactics with tasking one of its minions in the Sandjak of Cyprus to copy-paste bomb Bayrak.

See for your yourselves:
http://www.google.com/search?client=ope ... 8&oe=utf-8
http://imperium.lenin.ru/~verbit/scs/Mutlu_whatis.html

What a pathetic and insecure state and society.
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Postby halil » Sat Sep 05, 2009 1:21 pm

just return from meeting . still argument goes on . İt is very good to keep u busy .

we did not talk politics today at Buyuk han .sugject was football .

There was a lots of Irish funs today at buyuk han .Enjoying their Efes beers .

I hope it will be great and friendly match .
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Postby The Cypriot » Sat Sep 05, 2009 1:25 pm

Two thirds of CF members have voted that Goebbels should no longer be allowed to copy and paste Nazi propaganda here and so promote illegalities, in breach of forum rules. I think democracy is a wonderful thing.
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