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[denizaksulu]

I have contacted Admin already about this and everybody should do the same to put some pressure on him. Bayrak has its own website, TV stations and Radio Stations. What more "free speech" do they want for themselves? Can I use the website, tv and radio stations of Bayrak to promote my views? Apparently not! They don't allow free speech to me from their channels. So why should we allow Bayrak propagandists to turn this forum into another Turkish propaganda medium to promote their illegalities against our country?

Grow up Sotos, you accuse Bayrak and you want to do the same as what you accuse Bayrak of doing. You will never make sense in a hundred years.

It is not the same Halil can post his OWN views here. But at Bayrak they don't allow me to promote my own views in their tv,radios and websites! So why should Bayrak post their articles in our forum? They have their own website, radios and tvs so they should post their crap there.

I refer you to my previous post.

Now be a good boy and go to bed.

[Sotos]

Oh dear!

Earlier this evening I came across three posts from Bayrak that H had c&p'd in their entirety. My thoughts were that the Bayrak propaganda machine had gone in to overdrive to get across the Illegal Regime's message that the RoC was to blame for the delays in the talks following the Morphou incident and for the lack of progress in the talks before that. My thoughts were to post that we should label our Halil as a modern day Herr Goebels.

Ok, I found the subject matter offensive, but hey this is CyProb, it comes with the territory, but what I found particularly offensive was that a fellow mwmber could post these tracts of propaganda without adding any further material or words of his own invention.

On this important matter of free expression my view is that it should also be to an extent, Free Self-Expression. So do we express freely when we are expressing not our views but reprinting in full and without further comment the views of others?

We all c&p, some more than others, but my view must be that Halil not only takes it too far by doing so consistently and at practically at every opportunity which I can forgive but I'll say again what I find unforgivable is that there are none of Halil's own views added to these posts.

I think we owe it to one another that when we do c&p we add a few sentences saying in our own words, and I say for instance, why we're posting c&p, whether we agree or disagree with what we've c&pd and why, so that fellow forumers can engage in debate with our own views. (the point of this forum surely?)

Very good post Bill! The point of a forum is for people to post their our views. Not for illegal organization to use it as another propaganda medium. At times the forum looks like it is a Bayrak website!!

[Oracle]

I have contacted Admin already about this and everybody should do the same to put some pressure on him. Bayrak has its own website, TV stations and Radio Stations. What more "free speech" do they want for themselves? Can I use the website, tv and radio stations of Bayrak to promote my views? Apparently not! They don't allow free speech to me from their channels. So why should we allow Bayrak propagandists to turn this forum into another Turkish propaganda medium to promote their illegalities against our country?

Grow up Sotos, you accuse Bayrak and you want to do the same as what you accuse Bayrak of doing. You will never make sense in a hundred years.

It is not the same Halil can post his OWN views here. But at Bayrak they don't allow me to promote my own views in their tv,radios and websites! So why should Bayrak post their articles in our forum? They have their own website, radios and tvs so they should post their crap there.

It's their invasive and expansionist habits ....

[Bad Boy]

oh kids are fighting

I believe thats what talat and christofias were doing in thier ''secret meetings'' with no results.

Boys Grow up, Learn to reply for that copy/pasted stuff.

also halil should come up with his own point of view to convience somebody, You think anybody read your copy/pasted shit?..................I never read that

[bill cobbett]

Oh dear!

Earlier this evening I came across three posts from Bayrak that H had c&p'd in their entirety. My thoughts were that the Bayrak propaganda machine had gone in to overdrive to get across the Illegal Regime's message that the RoC was to blame for the delays in the talks following the Morphou incident and for the lack of progress in the talks before that. My thoughts were to post that we should label our Halil as a modern day Herr Goebels.

Ok, I found the subject matter offensive, but hey this is CyProb, it comes with the territory, but what I found particularly offensive was that a fellow mwmber could post these tracts of propaganda without adding any further material or words of his own invention.

On this important matter of free expression my view is that it should also be to an extent, Free Self-Expression. So do we express freely when we are expressing not our views but reprinting in full and without further comment the views of others?

We all c&p, some more than others, but my view must be that Halil not only takes it too far by doing so consistently and at practically at every opportunity which I can forgive but I'll say again what I find unforgivable is that there are none of Halil's own views added to these posts.

I think we owe it to one another that when we do c&p we add a few sentences saying in our own words, and I say for instance, why we're posting c&p, whether we agree or disagree with what we've c&pd and why, so that fellow forumers can engage in debate with our own views. (the point of this forum surely?)

Very good post Bill! The point of a forum is for people to post their our views. Not for illegal organization to use it as another propaganda medium. At times the forum looks like it is a Bayrak website!!

What must be said must be said file.

(and as it's Friday night.....what needn't be said but I can't help myself sometimes....
Psst Halil....psst Halil! ....
You wanna goot defender atourney? You going seeing my frend Halili, in Lidras, him good lawer, O level Law from Girne Uni, only costing im 100TL, him defand you wif Wise Admin. Remamber telling im koumbare Mehmeti sending you mate.)

[Nikephoros]

You should check out Google Groups archive of usenet posts from the late 80s and early 90s when the few internet users were mostly American college students who used their actual names and not invented user names. Alot of people associated with the Turkish government controlled media post spammed all usenet to deny the Armenian genocide. One Armenian poster named David Davidian(since he knew Turkish) proved that the notorious Turkish spam-bots were just posting what would later appear in Turkish media.
The totalitarian Turkish state continues its tactics with tasking one of its minions in the Sandjak of Cyprus to copy-paste bomb Bayrak.

See for your yourselves:
http://www.google.com/search?client=ope ... 8&oe=utf-8
http://imperium.lenin.ru/~verbit/scs/Mutlu_whatis.html

What a pathetic and insecure state and society.

[Tim Drayton]

I have contacted Admin already about this and everybody should do the same to put some pressure on him. Bayrak has its own website, TV stations and Radio Stations. What more "free speech" do they want for themselves? Can I use the website, tv and radio stations of Bayrak to promote my views? Apparently not! They don't allow free speech to me from their channels. So why should we allow Bayrak propagandists to turn this forum into another Turkish propaganda medium to promote their illegalities against our country?

Grow up Sotos, you accuse Bayrak and you want to do the same as what you accuse Bayrak of doing. You will never make sense in a hundred years.

It is not the same Halil can post his OWN views here. But at Bayrak they don't allow me to promote my own views in their tv,radios and websites! So why should Bayrak post their articles in our forum? They have their own website, radios and tvs so they should post their crap there.

I think you are comparing chalk with cheese. This is on open bicommunal discussion forum, while Bayrak is the broadcasting station of the self-proclaimed TRNC. A more accurate litmus test would be whether Halil could post at CYBC’s website:

http://www.cybc.com.cy/forum/

Incidentally, I have in the past tried to post comments about stories at the BBC website. None of them has ever been screened. I am not screaming ‘conspiracy’. Obviously they receive a lot of comments and these are screened and a small representative sample are actually posted on the site.

[Oracle]

You should check out Google Groups archive of usenet posts from the late 80s and early 90s when the few internet users were mostly American college students who used their actual names and not invented user names. Alot of people associated with the Turkish government controlled media post spammed all usenet to deny the Armenian genocide. One Armenian poster named David Davidian(since he knew Turkish) proved that the notorious Turkish spam-bots were just posting what would later appear in Turkish media.
The totalitarian Turkish state continues its tactics with tasking one of its minions in the Sandjak of Cyprus to copy-paste bomb Bayrak.

See for your yourselves:
http://www.google.com/search?client=ope ... 8&oe=utf-8
http://imperium.lenin.ru/~verbit/scs/Mutlu_whatis.html

What a pathetic and insecure state and society.

Yeah they are unashamedly against the truth!

They are not even worth discussing with for the sake of human engagement.

Problem is, if Admin stopped halil from doing this, imagine the backlash!

It puts our Admin in a very dificult situation and we can't ask him to do such a thing.

BAYRAK will start a massive anti Cyprus-Forum campaign or try and destroy it in some way.

They do not accept justified actions aimed at them ....

[denizaksulu]

You should check out Google Groups archive of usenet posts from the late 80s and early 90s when the few internet users were mostly American college students who used their actual names and not invented user names. Alot of people associated with the Turkish government controlled media post spammed all usenet to deny the Armenian genocide. One Armenian poster named David Davidian(since he knew Turkish) proved that the notorious Turkish spam-bots were just posting what would later appear in Turkish media.
The totalitarian Turkish state continues its tactics with tasking one of its minions in the Sandjak of Cyprus to copy-paste bomb Bayrak.

See for your yourselves:
http://www.google.com/search?client=ope ... 8&oe=utf-8
http://imperium.lenin.ru/~verbit/scs/Mutlu_whatis.html

What a pathetic and insecure state and society.

Yeah they are unashamedly against the truth!

They are not even worth discussing with for the sake of human engagement.

Problem is, if Admin stopped halil from doing this, imagine the backlash!

It puts our Admin in a very dificult situation and we can't ask him to do such a thing.

BAYRAK will start a massive anti Cyprus-Forum campaign or try and destroy it in some way.

They do not accept justified actions aimed at them ....

I have the perfect solution Oracle.

You can change the name from Cyprus Forum to Greek ONLY Forum . Problem solved.

On a more serious note, perhaps Halil could be persuaded to add his own comments to all the C & P he does. I think that is a fair compromise. Those commentators on the issue have also hinted at this.

[YFred]

You should check out Google Groups archive of usenet posts from the late 80s and early 90s when the few internet users were mostly American college students who used their actual names and not invented user names. Alot of people associated with the Turkish government controlled media post spammed all usenet to deny the Armenian genocide. One Armenian poster named David Davidian(since he knew Turkish) proved that the notorious Turkish spam-bots were just posting what would later appear in Turkish media.
The totalitarian Turkish state continues its tactics with tasking one of its minions in the Sandjak of Cyprus to copy-paste bomb Bayrak.

See for your yourselves:
http://www.google.com/search?client=ope ... 8&oe=utf-8
http://imperium.lenin.ru/~verbit/scs/Mutlu_whatis.html

What a pathetic and insecure state and society.

Yeah they are unashamedly against the truth!

They are not even worth discussing with for the sake of human engagement.

Problem is, if Admin stopped halil from doing this, imagine the backlash!

It puts our Admin in a very dificult situation and we can't ask him to do such a thing.

BAYRAK will start a massive anti Cyprus-Forum campaign or try and destroy it in some way.

They do not accept justified actions aimed at them ....

I have the perfect solution Oracle.

You can change the name from Cyprus Forum to Greek ONLY Forum . Problem solved.

On a more serious note, perhaps Halil could be persuaded to add his own comments to all the C & P he does. I think that is a fair compromise. Those commentators on the issue have also hinted at this.

Deniz, surely once the forum begins to discuss the post, Halil does post his thoughts on it. This is a typical GC propaganda ploy to silence the TCs point of view.
Bullshit to all the extreme GCs including the Shitfeatures.