Piratis you are one very angry GCs Im only glad that I have only met a few like you or do the others conceal their true feelings???
I say what I believe. I believe in human rights, democracy and in the rule of law, and I demand that I have no less rights than any other EU citizen in its own country. What part of what I say is wrong according to you?
Why are you so caught up in measuring the amount of blame for events that led up to 1974 does this make you feel better to think that TCs were 99% the cause, if so then your line of thought is very warped my friend, ease up we are not trying to gain brownie points, when I stated we all messed up it was a way of drawing a line on the past and moving forward.
Why? Because your whole theory is that the GCs are the bad guys that now have to be punished by getting even less than what was agreed in 1960. This is why I have to remind you that if GCs are bad, you are 100 times bad. If somebody has to be punished based on the past, these are you not us.
Do I want anybody to be punished? No. I say lets just forget about it, lets stop trying to blame each other and lets return to legality, to democracy, to human rights.
Do you accept that? No you don't. You want to
gain on our loss. You want to take more than what you had in the 1960 agreements and you want us to accept less because you threaten us your army will keep away from us even more. This is your goodwill? Do you expect us to like people like you?
Whatever the content of the Annan Plan it was an overall comprehensive solution to the Cyprus issue. We TCs would have been very stupid to have voted any other way.
Of course you would have been stupid. The Americans gave you the legal partition + EU, what else could you ask for?
Why are you concerned so much if we remain unrecognized doesnt that still mean we are partitioned and you cannot get your hands on your property??? does it serve your interests??? no I dont see that it does. Would it be more in your interests to find a solution that would serve both our interests??
Of course it would be best to find a solution that would serve both the interests of TCs and GCs. But can you accept such solution? Don't you also have to serve the interests of the settlers that form a great part of the voters in the occupied areas? Can you ignore the interests of Turkey?
And when you feel that you have the power, do you really want to find a solution that will benefit just Cypriots (GCs and TCs), or you want to use this power in order to benefit yourselves, Turkey and the Angloamericans and screw GCs as much as possible? So far you have been doing only the second.
And now we come to the "unrecognized" part. Yes, it is important. Because the only thing that keeps partition today is the illegal occupation army. Once the balance of power will change (and it always does), we can reclaim the north part of our country by the law, and nobody will be able to say that we are doing something wrong. It will be the liberation, like when the allies liberated Europe from the Nazis.
Piratis....were you personnally affected by the invasion (ie loss of property/missing persons etc.) ?
I have no personal motives other than that I want to live in a regular EU country and have the exact same rights like all other EU citizens in their own countries.
I am not from 60s/70s and I know the history quite well. Also, I am an atheist, and I follow blindly nobody.
I am sorry that some people attack me personally because they are unable to reply.
Is it wrong that in our history the GCs have most of the blame for
one decade? Is it wrong that the Ottomans oppressed GCs for
centuries? Is it wrong that the occupation goes on for
three decades?
What part of the history am I missing according to you?
No, I know the history, and I know that GCs do not deserve to be punished
even more for that
one decade, while the TCs are rewarded.
If anybody disagrees with me then I am waiting to hear some arguments on why the solution that we hope will last for long long time, should be one that gives to GCs even less, not even their basic human rights, and to the 18% TC minority so much more (by taking them away from GCs).
(apart from the logical answer: Because the Turks have military power and they want to gain on our loss as much as possible)
I hesitate to use that word because of the connotations involved, but yes VP, one could say that in terms of the way they are taught to view Turks (not necessarily TCs, but certainly Turks), and the way that they are taught the mantras of return of land, return of all refugees, when it is obvious that any future plan will not permit this, is a form of brainwashing by the state. Even more so for the male population, who follow school with army and have the same ideology drilled into them even more.
Oh yes. We are "brainwashed" that people should return to their own homes, that human rights should apply, and that our country should be liberated from foreign armies. If your country was under occupation, what do you think they will be teaching in your schools that would not be brainwashing?
What exactly was the change the TCs made on the curriculum and books?
They changed them from massively biased, to hugely biased. Don't expect to find there anything about a Turkish
invasion or the ethnic cleansing that they performed against us.
