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Greek Minister of Foreign Affairs Dora Bakoyiannis said on Thursday that Greece agrees that the system of guarantees in Cyprus is outdated and anachronistic, with the EU being the best guarantee for the security of Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots.

According to a press release issued by the Embassy of the Republic of Cyprus in Athens, Bakoyiannis, speaking after a meeting with Cypriot Minister of Foreign Affairs Marcos Kyprianou, said that decisions on Greece’s stance would depend on the response of Turkey towards the demands of the EU.

Kyprianou said that a solution to the Cyprus problem should be to the benefit of all Cypriots, and that Turkey must become actively involved in efforts for a solution.

http://www.cna.org.cy/website/english/a ... 2.asp?id=2

[YFred]

Thanks but no thanks to dear Dora. GCs can have the guaranty from the EU and we'll have the usual. EU couldn't guaranty themselves never mind anybody else. If there was another confrontation the only danger is they may do the job for the GCs and talk us to death.

[Nikitas]

YFred,

The idea of BBF and geographical separation of the two communities is precisely to avoid another confrontation. So why the presence of roreign troop ON TOP of bizonality. Unless you have other plans in mind. Can you convince us that you do not? And if so how?

The word of Turkey? Our turn to say no thanks. That last peace operation cost thousands of lives. The score in terms of lives is heavily against the GCs, so keep your guarantees and your troops.

Apart from that how can you as a Cypriot want your country forever subject to foreign powers and hosting foreign soldiers? Don't you have any pride?

[YFred]

YFred,

The idea of BBF and geographical separation of the two communities is precisely to avoid another confrontation. So why the presence of roreign troop ON TOP of bizonality. Unless you have other plans in mind. Can you convince us that you do not? And if so how?

The word of Turkey? Our turn to say no thanks. That last peace operation cost thousands of lives. The score in terms of lives is heavily against the GCs, so keep your guarantees and your troops.

Apart from that how can you as a Cypriot want your country forever subject to foreign powers and hosting foreign soldiers? Don't you have any pride?

Nikitas, this isn't really that dificult. The guaranty is very simple, if GC attack TCs unless they are attacked first by the TCs, then the TCs reserve the right to call for help. If GC do not attack TCs they have nothing to worry about. It should be in the agreement. This is not the same as 74. TCs are able to defend themselves if necessary long enough till help arrives. The same could not be said of 74. Once coupists finished off the GC oppositon, they could have wiped out the TCs in days. GCs had the military power to do it.

[Simon]

YFred,

The idea of BBF and geographical separation of the two communities is precisely to avoid another confrontation. So why the presence of roreign troop ON TOP of bizonality. Unless you have other plans in mind. Can you convince us that you do not? And if so how?

The word of Turkey? Our turn to say no thanks. That last peace operation cost thousands of lives. The score in terms of lives is heavily against the GCs, so keep your guarantees and your troops.

Apart from that how can you as a Cypriot want your country forever subject to foreign powers and hosting foreign soldiers? Don't you have any pride?

Nikitas, this isn't really that dificult. The guaranty is very simple, if GC attack TCs unless they are attacked first by the TCs, then the TCs reserve the right to call for help. If GC do not attack TCs they have nothing to worry about. It should be in the agreement. This is not the same as 74. TCs are able to defend themselves if necessary long enough till help arrives. The same could not be said of 74. Once coupists finished off the GC oppositon, they could have wiped out the TCs in days. GCs had the military power to do it.

What about if TCs attack TCs and blame the GCs like last time?

[YFred]

YFred,

The idea of BBF and geographical separation of the two communities is precisely to avoid another confrontation. So why the presence of roreign troop ON TOP of bizonality. Unless you have other plans in mind. Can you convince us that you do not? And if so how?

The word of Turkey? Our turn to say no thanks. That last peace operation cost thousands of lives. The score in terms of lives is heavily against the GCs, so keep your guarantees and your troops.

Apart from that how can you as a Cypriot want your country forever subject to foreign powers and hosting foreign soldiers? Don't you have any pride?

Nikitas, this isn't really that dificult. The guaranty is very simple, if GC attack TCs unless they are attacked first by the TCs, then the TCs reserve the right to call for help. If GC do not attack TCs they have nothing to worry about. It should be in the agreement. This is not the same as 74. TCs are able to defend themselves if necessary long enough till help arrives. The same could not be said of 74. Once coupists finished off the GC oppositon, they could have wiped out the TCs in days. GCs had the military power to do it.

What about if TCs attack TCs and blame the GCs like last time?

Both are as guilty as each other about where they put their bombs. Turkey did not intervene then. Its only when the likes of you overthrew the so called roc government that they came to our aid, and thank god for that. You see I remember the GC radio in 63/4/7 winding up TCs by playing the song bekleding da gelmedi. They new that Turkey may intervene and took a gamble and lost. So in DT's own words, now take it like a man.

See if your TC cousins will want to live with you at the end of these negotiations. I wouldn't count on it.

[Viewpoint]

YFred,

The idea of BBF and geographical separation of the two communities is precisely to avoid another confrontation. So why the presence of roreign troop ON TOP of bizonality. Unless you have other plans in mind. Can you convince us that you do not? And if so how?

The word of Turkey? Our turn to say no thanks. That last peace operation cost thousands of lives. The score in terms of lives is heavily against the GCs, so keep your guarantees and your troops.

Apart from that how can you as a Cypriot want your country forever subject to foreign powers and hosting foreign soldiers? Don't you have any pride?

Not when our security is at risk, meaning our lives.

[Simon]

YFred,

The idea of BBF and geographical separation of the two communities is precisely to avoid another confrontation. So why the presence of roreign troop ON TOP of bizonality. Unless you have other plans in mind. Can you convince us that you do not? And if so how?

The word of Turkey? Our turn to say no thanks. That last peace operation cost thousands of lives. The score in terms of lives is heavily against the GCs, so keep your guarantees and your troops.

Apart from that how can you as a Cypriot want your country forever subject to foreign powers and hosting foreign soldiers? Don't you have any pride?

Nikitas, this isn't really that dificult. The guaranty is very simple, if GC attack TCs unless they are attacked first by the TCs, then the TCs reserve the right to call for help. If GC do not attack TCs they have nothing to worry about. It should be in the agreement. This is not the same as 74. TCs are able to defend themselves if necessary long enough till help arrives. The same could not be said of 74. Once coupists finished off the GC oppositon, they could have wiped out the TCs in days. GCs had the military power to do it.

What about if TCs attack TCs and blame the GCs like last time?

Y-Freak wrote:

Both are as guilty as each other about where they put their bombs.

Both sides did evil things. But it was the TCs that started the violence thicko. You could clearly start trouble again. What guarantee do we have from this? And after all the trouble Turkey has caused, you really think we're going to give them the right to invade again? You're out of touch with reality.

Y-Freak wrote:

Turkey did not intervene then. Its only when the likes of you overthrew the so called roc government that they came to our aid, and thank god for that.

The dye was cast. Turkey bombed Cyprus not so long afterwards, and the situation deteriorated. Turkey also threatened an invasion, so of course it intervened.

The likes of you and your shitty Y-Freak clan sowed the seeds for the invasion, by causing trouble and helping Turkey implement a racist partition plan and ethnic cleansing. They didn't come to your aid, they came to execute a scheme concocted in the 1950s. You created the problem by siding with the British and later attacking GCs for Taksim, and then want to blame us for retaliating, claiming you need "guarantees"

The coup was never going to last, Makarios was still alive, and Sampson did not have the support of the GCs. It was all just a pretext that the stupid junta gave you to use.

Y-Freak wrote:

You see I remember the GC radio in 63/4/7 winding up TCs by playing the song bekleding da gelmedi. They new that Turkey may intervene and took a gamble and lost. So in DT's own words, now take it like a man.

And now idiots like you are doing exactly the same thing to the GCs, gloating about what you have taken, putting a huge flag on a mountain and lighting it up at night just so GCs can see it. Creating problems for people going on a pilgrimage. You are taking the same gamble and you will lose. Then I will be giving you the same advice. He who laughs last, laughs longest.

Y-Freak wrote:

See if your TC cousins will want to live with you at the end of these negotiations. I wouldn't count on it.

I'm afraid that they don't have a choice if they want to remain in Cyprus. You see northern Cyprus does not belong to the TCs and never has. They have no right to take any part of Cyprus and deny it to the GCs. If they don't want to live with the overwhelming majority on the island, I will be happy to show them the exit.

[Viewpoint]

Simon you still havent grasped it have you, we have every right to every part of this island..we fought for survival and created a safe haven call the TRNC time you got it into your head that we have just as much weight as you do with our right to demand safeguards and guarantees, if we say no there is nothing you can do about it. Time you realized that the only way you can get this island to unite is to compromise and accept that we have just as much say as you do.

[YFred]

YFred,

The idea of BBF and geographical separation of the two communities is precisely to avoid another confrontation. So why the presence of roreign troop ON TOP of bizonality. Unless you have other plans in mind. Can you convince us that you do not? And if so how?

The word of Turkey? Our turn to say no thanks. That last peace operation cost thousands of lives. The score in terms of lives is heavily against the GCs, so keep your guarantees and your troops.

Apart from that how can you as a Cypriot want your country forever subject to foreign powers and hosting foreign soldiers? Don't you have any pride?

Nikitas, this isn't really that dificult. The guaranty is very simple, if GC attack TCs unless they are attacked first by the TCs, then the TCs reserve the right to call for help. If GC do not attack TCs they have nothing to worry about. It should be in the agreement. This is not the same as 74. TCs are able to defend themselves if necessary long enough till help arrives. The same could not be said of 74. Once coupists finished off the GC oppositon, they could have wiped out the TCs in days. GCs had the military power to do it.

What about if TCs attack TCs and blame the GCs like last time?

Y-Freak wrote:

Both are as guilty as each other about where they put their bombs.

Both sides did evil things. But it was the TCs that started the violence thicko. You could clearly start trouble again. What guarantee do we have from this? And after all the trouble Turkey has caused, you really think we're going to give them the right to invade again? You're out of touch with reality.

Y-Freak wrote:

Turkey did not intervene then. Its only when the likes of you overthrew the so called roc government that they came to our aid, and thank god for that.

The dye was cast. Turkey bombed Cyprus not so long afterwards, and the situation deteriorated. Turkey also threatened an invasion, so of course it intervened.

The likes of you and your shitty Y-Freak clan sowed the seeds for the invasion, by causing trouble and helping Turkey implement a racist partition plan and ethnic cleansing. They didn't come to your aid, they came to execute a scheme concocted in the 1950s. You created the problem by siding with the British and later attacking GCs for Taksim, and then want to blame us for retaliating, claiming you need "guarantees"

The coup was never going to last, Makarios was still alive, and Sampson did not have the support of the GCs. It was all just a pretext that the stupid junta gave you to use.

Y-Freak wrote:

You see I remember the GC radio in 63/4/7 winding up TCs by playing the song bekleding da gelmedi. They new that Turkey may intervene and took a gamble and lost. So in DT's own words, now take it like a man.

And now idiots like you are doing exactly the same thing to the GCs, gloating about what you have taken, putting a huge flag on a mountain and lighting it up at night just so GCs can see it. Creating problems for people going on a pilgrimage. You are taking the same gamble and you will lose. Then I will be giving you the same advice. He who laughs last, laughs longest.

Y-Freak wrote:

See if your TC cousins will want to live with you at the end of these negotiations. I wouldn't count on it.

I'm afraid that they don't have a choice if they want to remain in Cyprus. You see northern Cyprus does not belong to the TCs and never has. They have no right to take any part of Cyprus and deny it to the GCs. If they don't want to live with the overwhelming majority on the island, I will be happy to show them the exit.

When the tanks lined up to flatten Lurucina and TAF wiped them out and stopped them doing the deed. Now if that is not coming to our aid, what is?