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Although Christofias pointed the behavior pilgrims were exposed to as his reason for wishing to postpone the meeting, the main reason was that he was upset over statements made following the meeting between Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoğlu and Talat Tuesday, Turkish news channel NTV reported. During the press meeting in Nicosa, Davutoğlu had said in the case a resolution could not be reached due to the unwillingness on the part of Greek Cypriot side, other choices would be considered.

According to the report that the newscaster had based on Greek sources, another issue that upset Christofias was that during the same press meeting, Talat had said that the Varosha district was not under the control of the Turkish military but under the control of Turkish Cypriot military.

Turkish Cyprus Presidency Spokesman Hasan Erçakıca said the explanation by the Greek Cypriot administration for the postponement of the talks was not acceptable. He said the Turkish Cypriot border guards had acted in accordance with the procedure the sides had agreed on. He said measures have taken in the morning to ensure swift passage at the border.

“Unfortunately, some Greek Cypriots wanted to pass [the border] although their names were not on the list. Some had their names in the list but they did not want to have their identifications checked. Therefore, when those that did not abide by the procedure could not pass, those coming after them wanted to go back also,” he added.

Erçakıca said Talat would meet with Downer in the evening and the issue would be discussed during this meeting.

The talks, which were due to take place in the buffer zone in Nicosa with the attendance of the United Nations Special Envoy to Cyprus Alexander Downer, were aiming to find an extensive resolution to the Cyprus issue. The first round of talks had started on Sept. 11, 2008 and had ended on Aug. 6 after the 40th meeting.

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php? ... 2009-09-02

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Doubts raised over Ayios Mamas pilgrimage
By Charles Charalambous

THE ANNUAL pilgrimage to the Church of Ayios Mamas in occupied Morphou on 2 September was in doubt yesterday, over suggestions that coaches carrying the pilgrims through the Limnitis crossing would have to undergo checks normally carried out at active checkpoints on the Green Line.

Although agreement was reached in June between President Demetris Christofias and Turkish Cypriot leader Mehmet Ali Talat to open the Limnitis crossing under the normal rules of existing crossings, works are still underway and it will be some months before the crossing is in a fit state to be used on a regular basis.

Kato Pyrgos community leader Costas Michaelides did not rule out the possibility that the pilgrimage would be cancelled if the 600 or so pilgrims – from Kato Pyrgos, the Tylliria area and Paphos – were obliged to undergo full ID checks despite the fact that the crossing was not yet active.

Michaelides said the issue is that Greek Cypriots crossing to Morphou for the Ayios Mamas church service should be treated in the same way as Turkish Cypriots crossing to Kokkina for their annual celebration two weeks ago, as agreed previously.

Presidential Commissioner George Iacovou, who began consultations over the pilgrimage yesterday morning with Talat’s advisor Ozdil Nami, described “the fuss” over the use by the pilgrims of the Limnitis crossing as “unproductive”. Iacovou said that an agreement or assurances over “equal treatment” did not exist, and people should not link the Ayios Mamas pilgrimage to the annual trip by Turkish Cypriots to Kokkina.

“What was agreed is that accommodations will be made to allow people to reach Ayios Mamas unhindered”, he said, adding that “of course, some problems are being posed, based on whispers”.

According to state broadcaster CyBC, sources indicated that Nami had phoned Iacovou yesterday lunchtime to indicate that the Turkish-Cypriot side had no intention of making the pilgrims descend from their coaches to have their ID cards checked.

Last year’s pilgrimage to Ayios Mamas Church was cancelled in the run-up to the opening of the latest round of talks aimed at resolving the Cyprus Problem, amid mutual recriminations by Christofias and Talat.

Talat said last September that the Limnitis crossing was a “special matter” when it came to the opening of checkpoints, and that the Turkish Cypriot side’s position had been submitted to the United Nations.

He said: “Turkish Cypriots crossing Limnitis to go to Kokkina and the Greek Cypriots crossing Limnitis to get to Morphou are two different things, as Kokkina is a closed area and people go there under the escort of UN vehicles, without being allowed to go anywhere else, while the people who go to Morphou can move around freely and it is therefore impossible to control where they go.”

Iacovou used this same argument yesterday to discourage people from equating the trips to Morphou and Kokkina.



Copyright © Cyprus Mail 2009

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[Get Real!]

We couldn’t care less what the garbage Turkish puppet excuses are again because it’s all history now, and all I want to know now are the repercussions.

There must be some kind of EU punishment for this stupidity so we just have to wait and see… there were some EU funds heading in the TC direction sometime in November I believe, so that’s a good place to start.

[YFred]

We couldn’t care less what the garbage Turkish puppet excuses are again because it’s all history now, and all I want to know now are the repercussions.

There must be some kind of EU punishment for this stupidity so we just have to wait and see… there were some EU funds heading in the TC direction sometime in November I believe, so that’s a good place to start.

You sound like a snake that had its fangs pulled out and are just not aware of it. Thats it, you have always wanted to block the money from the EU to the north. Well there is another failure on your list old boy.

[Get Real!]

We couldn’t care less what the garbage Turkish puppet excuses are again because it’s all history now, and all I want to know now are the repercussions.

There must be some kind of EU punishment for this stupidity so we just have to wait and see… there were some EU funds heading in the TC direction sometime in November I believe, so that’s a good place to start.

You sound like a snake that had its fangs pulled out and are just not aware of it. Thats it, you have always wanted to block the money from the EU to the north. Well there is another failure on your list old boy.

For every crime there must be a punishment to discourage a repetition of that crime.

[insan]

We couldn’t care less what the garbage Turkish puppet excuses are again because it’s all history now, and all I want to know now are the repercussions.

There must be some kind of EU punishment for this stupidity so we just have to wait and see… there were some EU funds heading in the TC direction sometime in November I believe, so that’s a good place to start.

You sound like a snake that had its fangs pulled out and are just not aware of it. Thats it, you have always wanted to block the money from the EU to the north. Well there is another failure on your list old boy.

For every crime there must be a punishment to discourage a repetition of that crime.

The leaders of 2 communities have already stated that such insignificant incidents can't prevent the resumption of the solution talks. U know what falls on behalf on 3rd one...

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Michaelides said the issue is that Greek Cypriots crossing to Morphou for the Ayios Mamas church service should be treated in the same way as Turkish Cypriots crossing to Kokkina for their annual celebration two weeks ago, as agreed previously.

So the Turks were able to go to Kokkina two weeks ago to celebrate the 1964 napalming of Greek Cypriot villages and they went without being checked.

Michaelides, here is the funny part, LOL...Michaelides and the Cypriot government thought that the pilgrims would be "treated in the same way" ha ha ha too funny.

If we can only continue to show goodwill to the "TRNC" maybe they will finally see the light and not seek a two state confederation ha ha ha ahhhhh. Has Christofias been able cross any Turkish red lines yet? No? No deviation from the Turks these past few years? Not even an inch?

Thats what i thought. LOL

R.I.P TPAP

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In Cyprus there is no border. Just an occupation army occupying 1/3rd of Republic of Cyprus and denying from the Cypriot people their human rights, one of which is the free movement within the territory of their own country.

[YFred]

Michaelides said the issue is that Greek Cypriots crossing to Morphou for the Ayios Mamas church service should be treated in the same way as Turkish Cypriots crossing to Kokkina for their annual celebration two weeks ago, as agreed previously.

So the Turks were able to go to Kokkina two weeks ago to celebrate the 1964 napalming of Greek Cypriot villages and they went without being checked.

Michaelides, here is the funny part, LOL...Michaelides and the Cypriot government thought that the pilgrims would be "treated in the same way" ha ha ha too funny.

If we can only continue to show goodwill to the "TRNC" maybe they will finally see the light and not seek a two state confederation ha ha ha ahhhhh. Has Christofias been able cross any Turkish red lines yet? No? No deviation from the Turks these past few years? Not even an inch?

Thats what i thought. LOL

R.I.P TPAP

When you meet your maker, I think you will find that TPAP will not be anywhere near heaven old boy. If such a thing exists.

[EPSILON]

We couldn’t care less what the garbage Turkish puppet excuses are again because it’s all history now, and all I want to know now are the repercussions.

There must be some kind of EU punishment for this stupidity so we just have to wait and see… there were some EU funds heading in the TC direction sometime in November I believe, so that’s a good place to start.

You sound like a snake that had its fangs pulled out and are just not aware of it. Thats it, you have always wanted to block the money from the EU to the north. Well there is another failure on your list old boy.

Maybe there is a plan for funding North with EU funds.What i can not understand is how such aid can be directed to people who are not paying taxes to an EU state?
Maybe also this is based on "the right of military power"?

T/cs and settlers always demanding rights but i can not locate any of their obligations as citizens of a state to be fulfilled.

The period of wars ended-stop negotiating with the occupation forces and ask (ROC) all its citizens -if they want to be considered as such-to comply with the citizenship obligations.
Stop (ROC) to play the game of a good Turkey as candiate member of EU-Present it as it is, an occupator who occupy a land of EU and do nothing until this basic situation be ended.