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[MR-from-NG]

Brazil Vs Ghana., Zonda F1 Vs Ford Ka, Cessna Citation Vs Jabiru, Mike Tyson Vs Prince Naseem Hamid, Tequila Vs Babycham, Roger Federer Vs RoC Junior Tennis Champion, Valentino Rossi Vs my uncle on his moped and finally Turkey Vs Cyprus. GR, if I hadn't met you I'd say you were certifiable, but I have met you and even before then I always thought you were a smart chap. I'm now having second thoughts.

Mitch, I don’t want my children to inherit getting fucked around by Turkey and the Turkish Cypriots for the rest of their lives too! (The recent Limnitis debacle being the most recent reminder of this never-ending farce)

This quagmire we call “the Cyprus problem” will quickly sort itself out once a sacrifice is made by the RoC. I’ve looked at every possible outcome in detail and in the long run, paradoxically this would be the least costly and most effective.

Marios, The Tcs are as much a victim in all this as you are, if you get what I mean We are both victims of circumstances. I want my Grandson to be best friends with your kids. I want them to grow to love, respect and protect each-other.

The thought of war just gives me the shivers. The day you guys accept us TCs as your compatriots instead of your enemies will be the defining moment in Cypriot history. We are the real victims in all this. We are dominated by our bully brother and are kicked in the teeth and rejected by our distant cousins.

There was a thread I noticed the other day about TCs and GCs and the Ottoman era. Let me say this, I may well be GC by origin, so fucking what? I'm a human being above all and I'm Cypriot and proud of it.

[Get Real!]

Brazil Vs Ghana., Zonda F1 Vs Ford Ka, Cessna Citation Vs Jabiru, Mike Tyson Vs Prince Naseem Hamid, Tequila Vs Babycham, Roger Federer Vs RoC Junior Tennis Champion, Valentino Rossi Vs my uncle on his moped and finally Turkey Vs Cyprus. GR, if I hadn't met you I'd say you were certifiable, but I have met you and even before then I always thought you were a smart chap. I'm now having second thoughts.

Mitch, I don’t want my children to inherit getting fucked around by Turkey and the Turkish Cypriots for the rest of their lives too! (The recent Limnitis debacle being the most recent reminder of this never-ending farce)

This quagmire we call “the Cyprus problem” will quickly sort itself out once a sacrifice is made by the RoC. I’ve looked at every possible outcome in detail and in the long run, paradoxically this would be the least costly and most effective.

Marios, The Tcs are as much a victim in all this as you are, if you get what I mean We are both victims of circumstances. I want my Grandson to be best friends with your kids. I want them to grow to love, respect and protect each-other.

The thought of war just gives me the shivers. The day you guys accept us TCs as your compatriots instead of your enemies will be the defining moment in Cypriot history. We are the real victims in all this. We are dominated by our bully brother and are kicked in the teeth and rejected by our distant cousins.

There was a thread I noticed the other day about TCs and GCs and the Ottoman era. Let me say this, I may well be GC by origin, so fucking what? I'm a human being above all and I'm Cypriot and proud of it.

Problem is… Turkish Cypriots can’t control Turkey who is in constant violation of the Geneva Convention (1949) by importing more and more of her people to colonize our country.

Every passing year, your people become less and less significant with a token representation showing up here and there to give the impression that the “TRNC” is a TC entity!

What kind of a future can we possibly have on Cyprus when Turkey keeps dropping off her people by the hundreds of thousands, their presence of which will have profound repercussions in 20, 50, or 100 years from now?

Unless these implanted Turks are removed early on, our gradual extermination from the island of Cyprus is mathematically guaranteed, and the chances of them leaving via “negotiations” is next to zero!

Unfortunately, we MUST sacrifice TODAY if we are to exist tomorrow.

[Viewpoint]

Brazil Vs Ghana., Zonda F1 Vs Ford Ka, Cessna Citation Vs Jabiru, Mike Tyson Vs Prince Naseem Hamid, Tequila Vs Babycham, Roger Federer Vs RoC Junior Tennis Champion, Valentino Rossi Vs my uncle on his moped and finally Turkey Vs Cyprus. GR, if I hadn't met you I'd say you were certifiable, but I have met you and even before then I always thought you were a smart chap. I'm now having second thoughts.

Mitch, I don’t want my children to inherit getting fucked around by Turkey and the Turkish Cypriots for the rest of their lives too! (The recent Limnitis debacle being the most recent reminder of this never-ending farce)

This quagmire we call “the Cyprus problem” will quickly sort itself out once a sacrifice is made by the RoC. I’ve looked at every possible outcome in detail and in the long run, paradoxically this would be the least costly and most effective.

What is that "sacrifice" exactly?

Depending on numerous variables, I anticipate anything between 10 and 50 thousand GC lives. If the National Guard plus reservists, pulls off a victory against all odds, then the world would look at it as a liberation of an illegally occupied territory, and if they lose against mighty Turkey and the bodies are piling up, then the whole world would turn against Turkey and force them out in accordance with UN resolutions. I see a win-win situation for Cyprus but, at a heavy price!

So your sacrifice is pitting GC lives against the military might of Turkey 1 million soldiers...are you ready for this? Do you really think you have a chance?

[Get Real!]

Depending on numerous variables, I anticipate anything between 10 and 50 thousand GC lives. If the National Guard plus reservists, pulls off a victory against all odds, then the world would look at it as a liberation of an illegally occupied territory, and if they lose against mighty Turkey and the bodies are piling up, then the whole world would turn against Turkey and force them out in accordance with UN resolutions. I see a win-win situation for Cyprus but, at a heavy price!

So your sacrifice is pitting GC lives against the military might of Turkey 1 million soldiers...are you ready for this?

Unfortunately for us, the alternative is worse because it would spell the end of Cypriots.

Doing nothing about it will guarantee our demise.

[Viewpoint]

Brazil Vs Ghana., Zonda F1 Vs Ford Ka, Cessna Citation Vs Jabiru, Mike Tyson Vs Prince Naseem Hamid, Tequila Vs Babycham, Roger Federer Vs RoC Junior Tennis Champion, Valentino Rossi Vs my uncle on his moped and finally Turkey Vs Cyprus. GR, if I hadn't met you I'd say you were certifiable, but I have met you and even before then I always thought you were a smart chap. I'm now having second thoughts.

Mitch, I don’t want my children to inherit getting fucked around by Turkey and the Turkish Cypriots for the rest of their lives too! (The recent Limnitis debacle being the most recent reminder of this never-ending farce)

This quagmire we call “the Cyprus problem” will quickly sort itself out once a sacrifice is made by the RoC. I’ve looked at every possible outcome in detail and in the long run, paradoxically this would be the least costly and most effective.

What is that "sacrifice" exactly?

Depending on numerous variables, I anticipate anything between 10 and 50 thousand GC lives. If the National Guard plus reservists, pulls off a victory against all odds, then the world would look at it as a liberation of an illegally occupied territory, and if they lose against mighty Turkey and the bodies are piling up, then the whole world would turn against Turkey and force them out in accordance with UN resolutions. I see a win-win situation for Cyprus but, at a heavy price!

So your sacrifice is pitting GC lives against the military might of Turkey 1 million soldiers...are you ready for this?

Unfortunately for us, the alternative is worse because it would spell the end of Cypriots.

All you have to do is win the TCs over and watch the difference...without the TCs on board there will be no change. A war started by the GCs would mean loss of the whole island, you display the same attitude as the GCs in 1974 and look what happened there.

[Get Real!]

Unfortunately for us, the alternative is worse because it would spell the end of Cypriots.

All you have to do is win the TCs over and watch the difference...without the TCs on board there will be no change. A war started by the GCs would mean loss of the whole island, you display the same attitude as the GCs in 1974 and look what happened there.

That’s an impossible task because most Turkish Cypriots are accomplices to the Turkification of Cyprus, because they fear exactly the opposite happening “thanks” to the foolish Greek nationalists!

Not that I believe that the ever-shrinking TC community in Cyprus, could ever persuade Turkey to opt for an alternative direction even if they wanted to.

[Viewpoint]

Unfortunately for us, the alternative is worse because it would spell the end of Cypriots.

All you have to do is win the TCs over and watch the difference...without the TCs on board there will be no change. A war started by the GCs would mean loss of the whole island, you display the same attitude as the GCs in 1974 and look what happened there.

That’s an impossible task because most Turkish Cypriots are accomplices to the Turkification of Cyprus, because they fear exactly the opposite happening “thanks” to the foolish Greek nationalists!

Not that I believe that the ever-shrinking TC community in Cyprus, could ever persuade Turkey to opt for an alternative direction even if they wanted to.

You under estimate the TCs, if Gcs offered a beter alternative than Turkey they would creat a stron force with the UN and EU to apply even further pressure as the world would see that we to want them now to bow out. But the TCs cannot see any light at the end of the tunnel with Gcs and are opting for Turkification as the GCs continue to try and force their will and ultimate minority status which TCs will never accept.

GCs continue to prove they cannot think out of the box in order to bring Tcs into line with them, the longer the pursue policies that alienate TCs the sooner they will not want to unite with the Turks.

[YFred]

Unfortunately for us, the alternative is worse because it would spell the end of Cypriots.

All you have to do is win the TCs over and watch the difference...without the TCs on board there will be no change. A war started by the GCs would mean loss of the whole island, you display the same attitude as the GCs in 1974 and look what happened there.

That’s an impossible task because most Turkish Cypriots are accomplices to the Turkification of Cyprus, because they fear exactly the opposite happening “thanks” to the foolish Greek nationalists!

Not that I believe that the ever-shrinking TC community in Cyprus, could ever persuade Turkey to opt for an alternative direction even if they wanted to.

Denktash didn't believe it either. Remove the suffocation and see the difference. You will have 67% TC participation including the settlers against Turks.
Only the brave are successful.

[Get Real!]

Unfortunately for us, the alternative is worse because it would spell the end of Cypriots.

All you have to do is win the TCs over and watch the difference...without the TCs on board there will be no change. A war started by the GCs would mean loss of the whole island, you display the same attitude as the GCs in 1974 and look what happened there.

That’s an impossible task because most Turkish Cypriots are accomplices to the Turkification of Cyprus, because they fear exactly the opposite happening “thanks” to the foolish Greek nationalists!

Not that I believe that the ever-shrinking TC community in Cyprus, could ever persuade Turkey to opt for an alternative direction even if they wanted to.

You under estimate the TCs, if Gcs offered a beter alternative than Turkey they would creat a stron force with the UN and EU to apply even further pressure as the world would see that we to want them now to bow out. But the TCs cannot see any light at the end of the tunnel with Gcs and are opting for Turkification as the GCs continue to try and force their will and ultimate minority status which TCs will never accept.

GCs continue to prove they cannot think out of the box in order to bring Tcs into line with them, the longer the pursue policies that alienate TCs the sooner they will not want to unite with the Turks.

But in order for Turkish Cypriots to be satisfied in a “solution” they would insist on giving Turkey intervening powers anyway and for most of the implanted Turks to remain, so the Turkification of Cyprus is still on even with a “solution”!

I also believe that if Turkish Cypriots were to ever complain to the EU/UN, Turkey would easily defeat them with sheer financial muscle within the “TRNC” (TC divide and rule) and even at the UN she would invent all sorts of ways to undermine and fog the TC identity.

The situation seems pretty hopeless the way we're going...

[wyoming cowboy]

The TC's diaspora is spread throughout the world ie UK, USA, and other parts of the world. If they truly wanted to they could flex their political and economic muscle to sway some judgements, i know its difficult with Turkey, but it needs to be tried nevertheless.