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Re: storming Kokkina....

Postby Viewpoint » Thu Sep 03, 2009 12:29 am

Simon wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Simon wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Simon wrote:
YFred wrote:
Simon wrote:
cymart wrote:no matter how upset we feel,this kind of action is a sure recipe for disaster.....in any case,even if we did take it,what use would it be to us anyway?If you suggested storming Varosha instead,I might say that would be worth the risk and definitely much more worth worth getting back?


I don't think we should just be storming Kokkina or Varosha. I think we should be devising a painstakingly detailed plan to liberate our whole island if the negotiations fail. Unless of course people are happy to accept partition...

Most people learn from their past mistakes, except fools, they continue to make the same mistakes all their lives.


You are absolutely right. That is exactly why we plan not to make the same mistakes as in 1974. One thing is for sure, fighting for Justice is never a mistake, and I will continue fighting for it for the rest of my life. If it can no longer be achieved peacefully, then other methods will have to be considered.

You will never find the "defeatist" mentality in me Y-Fronts.


But you must not cry when you get your butts whipped, like you have been doing so since 1974.


Agreed, as long as you take swimming lessons!


We live on an island we can all swim, that includes you people.


As long as you can swim VP, you should be fine. :wink:


Might be you in the water.
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Re: storming Kokkina....

Postby YFred » Thu Sep 03, 2009 12:30 am

Viewpoint wrote:
Simon wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Simon wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Simon wrote:
YFred wrote:
Simon wrote:
cymart wrote:no matter how upset we feel,this kind of action is a sure recipe for disaster.....in any case,even if we did take it,what use would it be to us anyway?If you suggested storming Varosha instead,I might say that would be worth the risk and definitely much more worth worth getting back?


I don't think we should just be storming Kokkina or Varosha. I think we should be devising a painstakingly detailed plan to liberate our whole island if the negotiations fail. Unless of course people are happy to accept partition...

Most people learn from their past mistakes, except fools, they continue to make the same mistakes all their lives.


You are absolutely right. That is exactly why we plan not to make the same mistakes as in 1974. One thing is for sure, fighting for Justice is never a mistake, and I will continue fighting for it for the rest of my life. If it can no longer be achieved peacefully, then other methods will have to be considered.

You will never find the "defeatist" mentality in me Y-Fronts.


But you must not cry when you get your butts whipped, like you have been doing so since 1974.


Agreed, as long as you take swimming lessons!


We live on an island we can all swim, that includes you people.


As long as you can swim VP, you should be fine. :wink:


Might be you in the water.

Don't be silly VP, how will they swim for 160 miles?
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Re: storming Kokkina....

Postby Viewpoint » Thu Sep 03, 2009 12:33 am

YFred wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Simon wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Simon wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Simon wrote:
YFred wrote:
Simon wrote:
cymart wrote:no matter how upset we feel,this kind of action is a sure recipe for disaster.....in any case,even if we did take it,what use would it be to us anyway?If you suggested storming Varosha instead,I might say that would be worth the risk and definitely much more worth worth getting back?


I don't think we should just be storming Kokkina or Varosha. I think we should be devising a painstakingly detailed plan to liberate our whole island if the negotiations fail. Unless of course people are happy to accept partition...

Most people learn from their past mistakes, except fools, they continue to make the same mistakes all their lives.


You are absolutely right. That is exactly why we plan not to make the same mistakes as in 1974. One thing is for sure, fighting for Justice is never a mistake, and I will continue fighting for it for the rest of my life. If it can no longer be achieved peacefully, then other methods will have to be considered.

You will never find the "defeatist" mentality in me Y-Fronts.


But you must not cry when you get your butts whipped, like you have been doing so since 1974.


Agreed, as long as you take swimming lessons!


We live on an island we can all swim, that includes you people.


As long as you can swim VP, you should be fine. :wink:


Might be you in the water.

Don't be silly VP, how will they swim for 160 miles?


They never learn.
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Re: storming Kokkina....

Postby Simon » Thu Sep 03, 2009 12:39 am

Viewpoint wrote:
Simon wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Simon wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Simon wrote:
YFred wrote:
Simon wrote:
cymart wrote:no matter how upset we feel,this kind of action is a sure recipe for disaster.....in any case,even if we did take it,what use would it be to us anyway?If you suggested storming Varosha instead,I might say that would be worth the risk and definitely much more worth worth getting back?


I don't think we should just be storming Kokkina or Varosha. I think we should be devising a painstakingly detailed plan to liberate our whole island if the negotiations fail. Unless of course people are happy to accept partition...

Most people learn from their past mistakes, except fools, they continue to make the same mistakes all their lives.


You are absolutely right. That is exactly why we plan not to make the same mistakes as in 1974. One thing is for sure, fighting for Justice is never a mistake, and I will continue fighting for it for the rest of my life. If it can no longer be achieved peacefully, then other methods will have to be considered.

You will never find the "defeatist" mentality in me Y-Fronts.


But you must not cry when you get your butts whipped, like you have been doing so since 1974.


Agreed, as long as you take swimming lessons!


We live on an island we can all swim, that includes you people.


As long as you can swim VP, you should be fine. :wink:


Might be you in the water.


That's impossible. You see you and I are made of different stuff VP. But like I said, as long as you can swim, I'm sure you'll be ok.
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Re: storming Kokkina....

Postby Simon » Thu Sep 03, 2009 12:40 am

Viewpoint wrote:
YFred wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Simon wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Simon wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Simon wrote:
YFred wrote:
Simon wrote:
cymart wrote:no matter how upset we feel,this kind of action is a sure recipe for disaster.....in any case,even if we did take it,what use would it be to us anyway?If you suggested storming Varosha instead,I might say that would be worth the risk and definitely much more worth worth getting back?


I don't think we should just be storming Kokkina or Varosha. I think we should be devising a painstakingly detailed plan to liberate our whole island if the negotiations fail. Unless of course people are happy to accept partition...

Most people learn from their past mistakes, except fools, they continue to make the same mistakes all their lives.


You are absolutely right. That is exactly why we plan not to make the same mistakes as in 1974. One thing is for sure, fighting for Justice is never a mistake, and I will continue fighting for it for the rest of my life. If it can no longer be achieved peacefully, then other methods will have to be considered.

You will never find the "defeatist" mentality in me Y-Fronts.


But you must not cry when you get your butts whipped, like you have been doing so since 1974.


Agreed, as long as you take swimming lessons!


We live on an island we can all swim, that includes you people.


As long as you can swim VP, you should be fine. :wink:


Might be you in the water.

Don't be silly VP, how will they swim for 160 miles?


They never learn.


You're right. We'll never give up.
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Re: storming Kokkina....

Postby YFred » Thu Sep 03, 2009 12:40 am

Viewpoint wrote:
YFred wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Simon wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Simon wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Simon wrote:
YFred wrote:
Simon wrote:
cymart wrote:no matter how upset we feel,this kind of action is a sure recipe for disaster.....in any case,even if we did take it,what use would it be to us anyway?If you suggested storming Varosha instead,I might say that would be worth the risk and definitely much more worth worth getting back?


I don't think we should just be storming Kokkina or Varosha. I think we should be devising a painstakingly detailed plan to liberate our whole island if the negotiations fail. Unless of course people are happy to accept partition...

Most people learn from their past mistakes, except fools, they continue to make the same mistakes all their lives.


You are absolutely right. That is exactly why we plan not to make the same mistakes as in 1974. One thing is for sure, fighting for Justice is never a mistake, and I will continue fighting for it for the rest of my life. If it can no longer be achieved peacefully, then other methods will have to be considered.

You will never find the "defeatist" mentality in me Y-Fronts.


But you must not cry when you get your butts whipped, like you have been doing so since 1974.


Agreed, as long as you take swimming lessons!


We live on an island we can all swim, that includes you people.


As long as you can swim VP, you should be fine. :wink:


Might be you in the water.

Don't be silly VP, how will they swim for 160 miles?


They never learn.

He did accept that point in one of his posts. What can we do? Let them get on with it. Maybe the next generation will be wiser than this one.
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Re: storming Kokkina....

Postby Simon » Thu Sep 03, 2009 12:43 am

YFred wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
YFred wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Simon wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Simon wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Simon wrote:
YFred wrote:
Simon wrote:
cymart wrote:no matter how upset we feel,this kind of action is a sure recipe for disaster.....in any case,even if we did take it,what use would it be to us anyway?If you suggested storming Varosha instead,I might say that would be worth the risk and definitely much more worth worth getting back?


I don't think we should just be storming Kokkina or Varosha. I think we should be devising a painstakingly detailed plan to liberate our whole island if the negotiations fail. Unless of course people are happy to accept partition...

Most people learn from their past mistakes, except fools, they continue to make the same mistakes all their lives.


You are absolutely right. That is exactly why we plan not to make the same mistakes as in 1974. One thing is for sure, fighting for Justice is never a mistake, and I will continue fighting for it for the rest of my life. If it can no longer be achieved peacefully, then other methods will have to be considered.

You will never find the "defeatist" mentality in me Y-Fronts.


But you must not cry when you get your butts whipped, like you have been doing so since 1974.


Agreed, as long as you take swimming lessons!


We live on an island we can all swim, that includes you people.


As long as you can swim VP, you should be fine. :wink:


Might be you in the water.

Don't be silly VP, how will they swim for 160 miles?


They never learn.

He did accept that point in one of his posts. What can we do? Let them get on with it. Maybe the next generation will be wiser than this one.


I did accept that we will never give up on justice. So you'll be waiting a long time Y-Fronts. You see Cyprus has a long history of outlasting foreign invaders. You are just a small dot in a long line.
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Postby DT. » Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:32 am

You would be surprised how many times a month kokkina would be stormed by the CNG. Ask any turk who served there how many GC signatures they'd find in their log book the next morning.
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Re: Piece by Piece ... Let's Get Back Kokkina!

Postby Expatkiwi » Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:37 am

Oracle wrote:It's an illegal foreign military base!

What is stopping us storming it to get it back?


You are probably going to find THAT rather difficult. Kokkina/Erenkoy has the same meaning to the Turkish Cypriots as Fort Sumter does to the United States, The old City of Jerusalem to the Jews, and the Eureka Stockade to the Australians. Symbolic places tend to be more zealously regarded...
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Postby Piratis » Thu Sep 03, 2009 5:05 am

What is much better to do is to simply end the EU accession process of Turkey. Their intransigence and their insistence to continue to deny to Republic of Cyprus its sovereignty rights is more than a good enough reason to do so.
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