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Talks cancelled over pilgrims fiasco

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Postby GeorgeV97qaue » Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:15 pm

YFred wrote:
Reports said it took the Turkish Cypriots almost two hours – 7.30am to 9.20am – to check the first two buses carrying some 40 pilgrims.

Iacovou said the manner with which the authorities carried out their checks led to delays when discrepancies appeared on the list of passengers in the first bus.

He said some of the names on the lists did not correspond exactly with the names on the pilgrims’ identity cards and, from what Downer had told him, there were people on the bus that were not on the list.

“It is clear … that you cannot check 700 people one by one, in an area where the road is 1.5 to two metres wide, without shade,” Iacovou said.

The Turkish Cypriot side said it took all measures for all 27 buses to go through in less than 30 minutes with 27 people – one for each bus – standing by to crosscheck the names on the lists with the passengers’ identity cards.

Two buses showed up at 7.30am, despite the Turkish Cypriots being told that the service would start at that time and them being ready since 5.30am.

According to Ozdil Nami, senior aide to Talat, the identity checks were through in less than 15 minutes and 13 people whose names were not on the list were asked to step off the buses while the remaining passengers were told that they were free to pass through.

But the rest of the passengers refused and returned in protest.

Two more buses approached the crossing at around 10am but their passengers this time refused to hand over their identity cards and retuned back, the Turkish Cypriot side said.

“We did everything we could. If 27 buses had arrived all processes would have been done in 15 minutes,” Nami told the Cyprus Mail.

You see the truth will always come out in the end. If it went according to plan the lot would have gone through in 15 minutes is the Turkish claim if they turned up when they were supposed to.

Few questions:
Is it that difficult to get the peoples names on the list right?
Who were the people on the busses that were not on the lists?
Why were they omitted from the list?
And finally why were they being smuggled in? What was their mission?

As far as I am aware, smuggling of people is illegal in law.

I smell a rat. A big fat juicy rat.

Where the hell was Mr Iavocu when GCs used to hold us in busses for unto 6 hours in the heat of August? How right was that?


How can you make such a statement about smuggling people. When the TRNC as you call it is an illegal puppet state. How can you make out you follow international law when you clearly dont.

Stop talking rubbish. TC's expect GC's to give all the time how about you finally give a little back by letting our people go to a church service without hinderence.
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Postby YFred » Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:37 pm

GeorgeV97qaue wrote:
YFred wrote:
Reports said it took the Turkish Cypriots almost two hours – 7.30am to 9.20am – to check the first two buses carrying some 40 pilgrims.

Iacovou said the manner with which the authorities carried out their checks led to delays when discrepancies appeared on the list of passengers in the first bus.

He said some of the names on the lists did not correspond exactly with the names on the pilgrims’ identity cards and, from what Downer had told him, there were people on the bus that were not on the list.

“It is clear … that you cannot check 700 people one by one, in an area where the road is 1.5 to two metres wide, without shade,” Iacovou said.

The Turkish Cypriot side said it took all measures for all 27 buses to go through in less than 30 minutes with 27 people – one for each bus – standing by to crosscheck the names on the lists with the passengers’ identity cards.

Two buses showed up at 7.30am, despite the Turkish Cypriots being told that the service would start at that time and them being ready since 5.30am.

According to Ozdil Nami, senior aide to Talat, the identity checks were through in less than 15 minutes and 13 people whose names were not on the list were asked to step off the buses while the remaining passengers were told that they were free to pass through.

But the rest of the passengers refused and returned in protest.

Two more buses approached the crossing at around 10am but their passengers this time refused to hand over their identity cards and retuned back, the Turkish Cypriot side said.

“We did everything we could. If 27 buses had arrived all processes would have been done in 15 minutes,” Nami told the Cyprus Mail.

You see the truth will always come out in the end. If it went according to plan the lot would have gone through in 15 minutes is the Turkish claim if they turned up when they were supposed to.

Few questions:
Is it that difficult to get the peoples names on the list right?
Who were the people on the busses that were not on the lists?
Why were they omitted from the list?
And finally why were they being smuggled in? What was their mission?

As far as I am aware, smuggling of people is illegal in law.

I smell a rat. A big fat juicy rat.

Where the hell was Mr Iavocu when GCs used to hold us in busses for unto 6 hours in the heat of August? How right was that?


How can you make such a statement about smuggling people. When the TRNC as you call it is an illegal puppet state. How can you make out you follow international law when you clearly dont.

Stop talking rubbish. TC's expect GC's to give all the time how about you finally give a little back by letting our people go to a church service without hinderence.

Do you really believe that there is nothing more to what the GCs were doing that morning other than errors. What was the point of giving the lists or the timetable if you were not going to keep to them. TCs planned to get everybody through in 15 minutes. 1 TC policement per bus. I really cannot believe what I am reading.
I still smell a rat. A big fat juicy rat at that.

It’s almost as if the opponents on each side are actually collaborating to cause the incidents to stop the talks.
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Postby RAFAELLA » Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:58 pm

If I am correct, noone mentioned in this thread that there was an agreement the Gcs would pass WITHOUT any checks.
It seems that someone violated this agreement.

Ayios Mamas visit going ahead as planned
By Charles Charalambous
THE PILGRIMAGE by Greek Cypriots to Ayios Mamas Church in occupied Morphou will go ahead today as planned, following assurances from the Turkish Cypriot authorities that no individual ID checks will be carried out. The trip was in doubt following suggestions that coaches carrying the pilgrims through the Limnitis crossing – where work on the agreed checkpoint has not yet been completed – would have to undergo checks normally carried out at active checkpoints on the Green Line.
http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.ph ... 9&cat_id=1
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Postby zan » Thu Sep 03, 2009 5:03 pm

RAFAELLA wrote:If I am correct, noone mentioned in this thread that there was an agreement the Gcs would pass WITHOUT any checks.
It seems that someone violated this agreement.

Ayios Mamas visit going ahead as planned
By Charles Charalambous
THE PILGRIMAGE by Greek Cypriots to Ayios Mamas Church in occupied Morphou will go ahead today as planned, following assurances from the Turkish Cypriot authorities that no individual ID checks will be carried out. The trip was in doubt following suggestions that coaches carrying the pilgrims through the Limnitis crossing – where work on the agreed checkpoint has not yet been completed – would have to undergo checks normally carried out at active checkpoints on the Green Line.
http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.ph ... 9&cat_id=1



Try to understand what you are reading before posting :roll: It says "no individual checks" would be carried out not that none would be. :roll:
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Postby RAFAELLA » Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:01 pm

YFred wrote: Few questions:
Is it that difficult to get the peoples names on the list right?
Yes because they are only known by there nick names.

Who were the people on the busses that were not on the lists?
My granny Christallou - the "Slingshot" or the "Chief" ID007
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My granny's sister Canou - the "Cannoneer" ID 007 1/2
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Her school mate Annou - the "Snowhite" ID 008
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Annou's sister, Periclou - the "Badriclou" ID 009
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Granny Loulou - the "Lurcher" ID 010
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Lolou's cousin, granny Maria - the "Bond-ia" 007A
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Granny Viryinia - the "Invissible" ID 000
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...and granny Liza - the "Lizard" ID 009
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Why were they omitted from the list?
Threat to the enemy due to their participation in WWII

And finally why were they being smuggled in? What was their mission?
Their Mission? ...I cannot tell! Top secret!

As far as I am aware, smuggling of people is illegal in law.
....aaaa does the word "illegal" exist in your vocabulary?

I smell a rat. A big fat juicy rat.
Excuse me, ... but I guess is your frat that you smell.
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Postby YFred » Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:12 pm

RAFAELLA wrote:
YFred wrote: Few questions:
Is it that difficult to get the peoples names on the list right?
Yes because they are only known by there nick names.

Who were the people on the busses that were not on the lists?
My granny Christallou - the "Slingshot" or the "Chief" ID007
Image

My granny's sister Canou - the "Cannoneer" ID 007 1/2
Image

Her school mate Annou - the "Snowhite" ID 008
Image

Annou's sister, Periclou - the "Badriclou" ID 009
Image

Granny Loulou - the "Lurcher" ID 010
Image

Lolou's cousin, granny Maria - the "Bond-ia" 007A
Image

Granny Viryinia - the "Invissible" ID 000
Image

...and granny Liza - the "Lizard" ID 009
Image


Why were they omitted from the list?
Threat to the enemy due to their participation in WWII

And finally why were they being smuggled in? What was their mission?
Their Mission? ...I cannot tell! Top secret!

As far as I am aware, smuggling of people is illegal in law.
....aaaa does the word "illegal" exist in your vocabulary?

I smell a rat. A big fat juicy rat.
Excuse me, ... but I guess is your frat that you smell.

Well prepared but not that funny. For instance the comment regarding their mission should have been "I can't tell you, otherwise I would have to kill you".

But other wise you are getting into the spirit of how we should behave on the forum. 9 out of 10 for trying, old girl.
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Postby bill cobbett » Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:58 pm

YFred wrote:
RAFAELLA wrote:
YFred wrote: Few questions:
Is it that difficult to get the peoples names on the list right?
Yes because they are only known by there nick names.

Who were the people on the busses that were not on the lists?
My granny Christallou - the "Slingshot" or the "Chief" ID007
Image

My granny's sister Canou - the "Cannoneer" ID 007 1/2
Image

Her school mate Annou - the "Snowhite" ID 008
Image

Annou's sister, Periclou - the "Badriclou" ID 009
Image

Granny Loulou - the "Lurcher" ID 010
Image

Lolou's cousin, granny Maria - the "Bond-ia" 007A
Image

Granny Viryinia - the "Invissible" ID 000
Image

...and granny Liza - the "Lizard" ID 009
Image


Why were they omitted from the list?
Threat to the enemy due to their participation in WWII

And finally why were they being smuggled in? What was their mission?
Their Mission? ...I cannot tell! Top secret!

As far as I am aware, smuggling of people is illegal in law.
....aaaa does the word "illegal" exist in your vocabulary?

I smell a rat. A big fat juicy rat.
Excuse me, ... but I guess is your frat that you smell.

Well prepared but not that funny. For instance the comment regarding their mission should have been "I can't tell you, otherwise I would have to kill you".

But other wise you are getting into the spirit of how we should behave on the forum. 9 out of 10 for trying, old girl.


The Kato Pyrgos Ladies Liberation Front were also on the coach .....



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... A mean pair of pairs!
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Postby The Cypriot » Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:56 pm

It was meant to be a peaceful event. The pilgrims were in high spirits, looking forward to a fun-filled day. They even decorated one of their buses with balloons as a gesture of good will. So what was the problem?

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Postby bill cobbett » Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:00 pm

The Cypriot wrote:It was meant to be a peaceful event. The pilgrims were in high spirits, looking forward to a fun-filled day. They even decorated one of their buses with balloons as a gesture of good will. So what was the problem?

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:lol: Reh Kibroyerro, eese chakos reh.
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Postby YFred » Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:04 pm

bill cobbett wrote:
YFred wrote:
RAFAELLA wrote:
YFred wrote: Few questions:
Is it that difficult to get the peoples names on the list right?
Yes because they are only known by there nick names.

Who were the people on the busses that were not on the lists?
My granny Christallou - the "Slingshot" or the "Chief" ID007
Image

My granny's sister Canou - the "Cannoneer" ID 007 1/2
Image

Her school mate Annou - the "Snowhite" ID 008
Image

Annou's sister, Periclou - the "Badriclou" ID 009
Image

Granny Loulou - the "Lurcher" ID 010
Image

Lolou's cousin, granny Maria - the "Bond-ia" 007A
Image

Granny Viryinia - the "Invissible" ID 000
Image

...and granny Liza - the "Lizard" ID 009
Image


Why were they omitted from the list?
Threat to the enemy due to their participation in WWII

And finally why were they being smuggled in? What was their mission?
Their Mission? ...I cannot tell! Top secret!

As far as I am aware, smuggling of people is illegal in law.
....aaaa does the word "illegal" exist in your vocabulary?

I smell a rat. A big fat juicy rat.
Excuse me, ... but I guess is your frat that you smell.

Well prepared but not that funny. For instance the comment regarding their mission should have been "I can't tell you, otherwise I would have to kill you".

But other wise you are getting into the spirit of how we should behave on the forum. 9 out of 10 for trying, old girl.


The Kato Pyrgos Ladies Liberation Front were also on the coach .....



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... A mean pair of pairs!

Re Billagui, I'll join your army any day. 10 out of 10.
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