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[YFred]

What was the bus clearing procedure followed when TCs crossed to visit Kokkina a few weeks back?

There was no clearing procedure. They were not allowed to go anywhere else except Gochina and they were escorted. You call that free passage.

The idea was to go from A to B and that's exactly what they were allowed to do. What's your excuse?

Ask the priest, he will tell the truth about who is at fault.

[Get Real!]

What was the bus clearing procedure followed when TCs crossed to visit Kokkina a few weeks back?

There was no clearing procedure. They were not allowed to go anywhere else except Gochina and they were escorted. You call that free passage.

The idea was to go from A to B and that's exactly what they were allowed to do. What's your excuse?

Ask the priest, he will tell the truth about who is at fault.

You FAILED to take the people from A to B. End of story.

[YFred]

What was the bus clearing procedure followed when TCs crossed to visit Kokkina a few weeks back?

There was no clearing procedure. They were not allowed to go anywhere else except Gochina and they were escorted. You call that free passage.

The idea was to go from A to B and that's exactly what they were allowed to do. What's your excuse?

Ask the priest, he will tell the truth about who is at fault.

You FAILED to take the people from A to B. End of story.

Every cloud has a silver lining! wait and see.

[bill cobbett]

What is it with the Illegal Regime and this church in Morphou?

I seem to remember that a few years ago that this church was bombed by Turkish Terrorists and a while before that the Bishop was dragged from the church by tissy "police' part-way through a service.

[YFred]

What is it with the Illegal Regime and this church in Morphou?

I seem to remember that a few years ago that this church was bombed by Turkish Terrorists and a while before that the Bishop was dragged from the church by tissy "police' part-way through a service.

I don't know Bill, but if all the religous establishments were forbidden, the Cyprus problem would be 90% solved.

[DT.]

What is it with the Illegal Regime and this church in Morphou?

I seem to remember that a few years ago that this church was bombed by Turkish Terrorists and a while before that the Bishop was dragged from the church by tissy "police' part-way through a service.

I don't know Bill, but if all the religous establishments were forbidden, the Cyprus problem would be 90% solved.

You're right. If you invade, occupy our homes and make us forget our religion things would be a lot easier for you. A country can't take over a sovereign country's land these days without having some pesky priests rallying the people up to take their homes back some day.

[Piratis]

1) There is no TRNC.

RESOLUTION 541 (1983)

Adopted by the Security Council
on 18 November 1983



The Security Council,

Having heard the statement of the Foreign Minister of the Government of the Republic of Cyprus,

Concerned at the declaration by the Turkish Cypriot authorities issued on 15 November 1983 which purports to create an independent state in northern Cyprus,

Considering that this declaration is incompatible with the 1960 Treaty concerning the establishment of the Republic of Cyprus and the 1960 Treaty of Guarantee,

Considering therefore that the attempt to create a "Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus", is invalid, and will contribute to a worsening of the situation in Cyprus,

Reaffirming its resolutions 365(1974) and 367(1975),

Aware of the need for a solution of the Cyprus problem, based on the mission of good offices undertaken by the Secretary-General,

Affirming its continuing support for the United Nations Peace-Keeping Force in Cyprus,

Taking note of the Secretary-General's statement of 17 November 1983,

1. Deplores the declaration of the Turkish Cypriot authorities of the purported secession of part of the Republic of Cyprus;

2. Considers the declaration referred to above as legally invalid and calls for its withdrawal;

3. Calls for the urgent and effective implementation of its resolutions 365(1974) and 367(1975);

4. Requests the Secretary-General to pursue his mission of good offices in order to achieve the earliest possible progress towards a just and lasting settlement in Cyprus;

5. Calls upon the parties to cooperate fully with the Secretary-General in his mission of good offices;

6. Calls upon all States to respect the sovereignty, independence, territorial integrity and non-alignment of the Republic of Cyprus;

7. Calls upon all States not to recognise any Cypriot state other than the Republic of Cyprus;

8. Calls upon all States and the two communities in Cyprus to refrain from any action which might exacerbate the situation;

9. Requests the Secretary-General to keep the Security Council fully informed.

Adopted at the 2500th meeting by 13 votes to 1 against (Pakistan) with 1 abstention (Jordan).

2) There is only one state on this island, Republic of Cyprus, part of which you illegally occupy:

RESOLUTION 353 (1974)

Adopted by the Security Council at its 1771st meeting,
on 20 July 1974



The Security Council,

Having considered the report of the Secretary-General, at its 1779th meeting, about the recent developments in Cyprus,

Having heard the statement of the President of the Republic of Cyprus and the statements of the representatives of Cyprus, Turkey, Greece and other Member States,

Noting also from the report the conditions prevailing in the island,

Deeply deploring the outbreak of violence and the continuing bloodshed,

Gravely concerned about the situation which has led to a serious threat to international peace and security, and which has created a most explosive situation in the whole Eastern Mediterranean area,

Equally concerned about the necessity to restore the constitutional structure of the Republic of Cyprus, established and guaranteed by international agreements,

Conscious of its primary responsibility for the maintenance of international peace and security in accordance with Article 24 of the Charter of the United Nations,

1.Calls upon all States to respect the sovereignty, independence and territorial integrity of Cyprus.

2.Calls upon all parties to the present fighting as a first step to cease all firing and requests all States to exercise the utmost restraint and to refrain from any action which might further aggravate the situation;

3.Demands an immediate end to foreign military intervention in the Republic of Cyprus that is in contravention of the provisions of paragraph 1 above;

4. Requests the withdrawal without delay from the Republic of Cyprus of foreign military personnel present otherwise than under the authority of international agreements, including those whose withdrawal was requested by the President of the Republic of Cyprus, Archbishop Makarios, in his letter of 2 July 1974;

5. Calls upon Greece, Turkey and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland to enter into negotiations without delay for the restoration of peace in the area and constitutional government of Cyprus and to keep the Secretary-General informed;

6. Calls upon all parties to co-operate fully with the United Nations Peace-keeping Force in Cyprus to enable it to carry out its mandate;

7. Decides to keep the situation under constant review and asks the Secretary-General to report as appropriate with a view to adopting further measures in order to ensure that peaceful conditions are restored as soon as possible.

Adopted unanimously at the 1781st meeting.

Conclusion 1: There is no border in Cyprus. The whole Cyprus is part of the same country, the Republic of Cyprus.

Conclusion 2: Nobody has the right to stop Cyprus citizens from moving freely from one part of their country to another. Also nobody except the police of Republic of Cyprus has the right to stop people in the street and ask for their ID.

Conclusion 3: The Turks have yet again confirmed that they are barbarian invaders, who will act criminally and illegally to stop Cypriots from exercising their human rights in their own country.

So the conclusions of the UN Resolutions are yet again confirmed.

[YFred]

Reports said it took the Turkish Cypriots almost two hours – 7.30am to 9.20am – to check the first two buses carrying some 40 pilgrims.

Iacovou said the manner with which the authorities carried out their checks led to delays when discrepancies appeared on the list of passengers in the first bus.

He said some of the names on the lists did not correspond exactly with the names on the pilgrims’ identity cards and, from what Downer had told him, there were people on the bus that were not on the list.

“It is clear … that you cannot check 700 people one by one, in an area where the road is 1.5 to two metres wide, without shade,” Iacovou said.

The Turkish Cypriot side said it took all measures for all 27 buses to go through in less than 30 minutes with 27 people – one for each bus – standing by to crosscheck the names on the lists with the passengers’ identity cards.

Two buses showed up at 7.30am, despite the Turkish Cypriots being told that the service would start at that time and them being ready since 5.30am.

According to Ozdil Nami, senior aide to Talat, the identity checks were through in less than 15 minutes and 13 people whose names were not on the list were asked to step off the buses while the remaining passengers were told that they were free to pass through.

But the rest of the passengers refused and returned in protest.

Two more buses approached the crossing at around 10am but their passengers this time refused to hand over their identity cards and retuned back, the Turkish Cypriot side said.

“We did everything we could. If 27 buses had arrived all processes would have been done in 15 minutes,” Nami told the Cyprus Mail.

You see the truth will always come out in the end. If it went according to plan the lot would have gone through in 15 minutes is the Turkish claim if they turned up when they were supposed to.

Few questions:
Is it that difficult to get the peoples names on the list right?
Who were the people on the busses that were not on the lists?
Why were they omitted from the list?
And finally why were they being smuggled in? What was their mission?

As far as I am aware, smuggling of people is illegal in law.

I smell a rat. A big fat juicy rat.

Where the hell was Mr Iavocu when GCs used to hold us in busses for unto 6 hours in the heat of August? How right was that?

[EPSILON]

Reports said it took the Turkish Cypriots almost two hours – 7.30am to 9.20am – to check the first two buses carrying some 40 pilgrims.

Iacovou said the manner with which the authorities carried out their checks led to delays when discrepancies appeared on the list of passengers in the first bus.

He said some of the names on the lists did not correspond exactly with the names on the pilgrims’ identity cards and, from what Downer had told him, there were people on the bus that were not on the list.

“It is clear … that you cannot check 700 people one by one, in an area where the road is 1.5 to two metres wide, without shade,” Iacovou said.

The Turkish Cypriot side said it took all measures for all 27 buses to go through in less than 30 minutes with 27 people – one for each bus – standing by to crosscheck the names on the lists with the passengers’ identity cards.

Two buses showed up at 7.30am, despite the Turkish Cypriots being told that the service would start at that time and them being ready since 5.30am.

According to Ozdil Nami, senior aide to Talat, the identity checks were through in less than 15 minutes and 13 people whose names were not on the list were asked to step off the buses while the remaining passengers were told that they were free to pass through.

But the rest of the passengers refused and returned in protest.

Two more buses approached the crossing at around 10am but their passengers this time refused to hand over their identity cards and retuned back, the Turkish Cypriot side said.

“We did everything we could. If 27 buses had arrived all processes would have been done in 15 minutes,” Nami told the Cyprus Mail.

You see the truth will always come out in the end. If it went according to plan the lot would have gone through in 15 minutes is the Turkish claim if they turned up when they were supposed to.

Few questions:
Is it that difficult to get the peoples names on the list right?
Who were the people on the busses that were not on the lists?
Why were they omitted from the list?
And finally why were they being smuggled in? What was their mission?

As far as I am aware, smuggling of people is illegal in law.

I smell a rat. A big fat juicy rat.

Where the hell was Mr Iavocu when GCs used to hold us in busses for unto 6 hours in the heat of August? How right was that?

The people not listed were secret inteligence service!!!Jurnalists, this what they call them in democracies!!!

[zan]

Reports said it took the Turkish Cypriots almost two hours – 7.30am to 9.20am – to check the first two buses carrying some 40 pilgrims.

Iacovou said the manner with which the authorities carried out their checks led to delays when discrepancies appeared on the list of passengers in the first bus.

He said some of the names on the lists did not correspond exactly with the names on the pilgrims’ identity cards and, from what Downer had told him, there were people on the bus that were not on the list.

“It is clear … that you cannot check 700 people one by one, in an area where the road is 1.5 to two metres wide, without shade,” Iacovou said.

The Turkish Cypriot side said it took all measures for all 27 buses to go through in less than 30 minutes with 27 people – one for each bus – standing by to crosscheck the names on the lists with the passengers’ identity cards.

Two buses showed up at 7.30am, despite the Turkish Cypriots being told that the service would start at that time and them being ready since 5.30am.

According to Ozdil Nami, senior aide to Talat, the identity checks were through in less than 15 minutes and 13 people whose names were not on the list were asked to step off the buses while the remaining passengers were told that they were free to pass through.

But the rest of the passengers refused and returned in protest.

Two more buses approached the crossing at around 10am but their passengers this time refused to hand over their identity cards and retuned back, the Turkish Cypriot side said.

“We did everything we could. If 27 buses had arrived all processes would have been done in 15 minutes,” Nami told the Cyprus Mail.

You see the truth will always come out in the end. If it went according to plan the lot would have gone through in 15 minutes is the Turkish claim if they turned up when they were supposed to.

Few questions:
Is it that difficult to get the peoples names on the list right?
Who were the people on the busses that were not on the lists?
Why were they omitted from the list?
And finally why were they being smuggled in? What was their mission?

As far as I am aware, smuggling of people is illegal in law.

I smell a rat. A big fat juicy rat.

Where the hell was Mr Iavocu when GCs used to hold us in busses for unto 6 hours in the heat of August? How right was that?

Either working together or apart, the government will be embarrassed by, what looks like, the Churches views on the subject. As VP has said.....Well known tactics. Lets hope that Christofias is working "apart" so he can work to bring them back in line.