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[alexISS]

For GetReal!

για τον κυπριακό ελληνισμό και για μένα προσωπικά είναι πάντοτε πολύ ενισχυτικό να ξέρουμε ότι η Ελλάδα, η ελληνική κυβέρνηση βρίσκεται στο πλευρό μας και μας ενισχύει στον δύσκολο αγώνα που διεξάγουμε

Just a reminder that your idol considered himself part of the Cypriot Hellenism

[EPSILON]

For GetReal!

για τον κυπριακό ελληνισμό και για μένα προσωπικά είναι πάντοτε πολύ ενισχυτικό να ξέρουμε ότι η Ελλάδα, η ελληνική κυβέρνηση βρίσκεται στο πλευρό μας και μας ενισχύει στον δύσκολο αγώνα που διεξάγουμε

Just a reminder that your idol considered himself part of the Cypriot Hellenism

Alexis, my position is a little different. I consider Hellenism of Cyprus as separate and different from what Greek state is representing today.
I consider that G/cs must fight for their own identity as Greeks of Cyprus ,promoting their own Hellenic World ,separatetly of Greece-in coperation, but separatetly.
They must clarify to international community that they are the legal citizens of the Island which is under occupation by a foreign army with co-operation of T/cs and to declare that they do not negotiate anything else than their idepedence and freedom for their Island from foreigners and T/cs cooperators.,

They must stop to fight their own identity of Hellenic culture and promote this as a defence tool for their freedom.
A Hellenic state in Cyprus , member of EU , can make the life of various clever employees of Turkey in UN/NATO and particularly UK, very difficult. Times of wars ended- Great policies are required .For all these we just need a great Politician in Cyprus. We have many many years to see something like that in the Island.

I think Cyprus need what Greece need - Just brave leaders who are not following the rules of the invator and the rules of threats.

Lets hope that, after the forhcoming colapse of the new negotiations (which will help Turkey in many ways in the meantime)someone like this will appear.

Let uneducated people to consider anything Hellenic as facist and junta made. Let these "gentitsarous" to be burn in their ideas.

[EPSILON]

For GetReal!

για τον κυπριακό ελληνισμό και για μένα προσωπικά είναι πάντοτε πολύ ενισχυτικό να ξέρουμε ότι η Ελλάδα, η ελληνική κυβέρνηση βρίσκεται στο πλευρό μας και μας ενισχύει στον δύσκολο αγώνα που διεξάγουμε

Just a reminder that your idol considered himself part of the Cypriot Hellenism

The only person who i can not understand his origin T/c, G/c, Greek or Turk is GR.

[The Cypriot]

Alexis, my position is a little different. I consider Hellenism of Cyprus as separate and different from what Greek state is representing today.

Then why not find another word to describe it so that the world doesn't mistakenly consider Cyprus joined to and the same as the modern Greek state? How about "Cyprianism" rather than "Hellenism of Cyprus" - to avoid confusion?

Cyprian: of or relating to the ancient worship of Aphrodite on Cyprus.
Cyprian: a native or inhabitant of Cyprus, especially of ancient Cyprus; a Cypriot.

I consider that G/cs must fight for their own identity as Greeks of Cyprus

Good idea. They could assert their own separate identity by calling themselves "Cyprians" rather than "Greeks" - to avoid confusion.

,promoting their own Hellenic World ,separatetly of Greece-in coperation, but separatetly.

Easily done if we find a word to describe them that makes it clear they're separate - in cooperation with Greece and the rest of Europe, but separate. So the world isn't misled into thinking they still want "enosis" with Greece.

How about "Cyprians". So any citizen of Cyprus is a Cypriot but a person who chooses to identify with your particular ancient heritage is also a "Cyprian", rather than a "Greek of Cyprus", which might confuse ignorant people into thinking they're Greek citizens or still want enosis with modern Greece.

They must clarify to international community that they are the legal citizens of the Island which is under occupation by a foreign army with co-operation of T/cs and to declare that they do not negotiate anything else than their idepedence and freedom for their Island from foreigners and T/cs cooperators.,

Could they do so as Cyprians?

They must stop to fight their own identity of Hellenic culture and promote this as a defence tool for their freedom.

How about referring to it as Cyprian culture, then?

[EPSILON]

Alexis, my position is a little different. I consider Hellenism of Cyprus as separate and different from what Greek state is representing today.

Then why not find another word to describe it so that the world doesn't mistakenly consider Cyprus joined to and the same as the modern Greek state? How about "Cyprianism" rather than "Hellenism of Cyprus" - to avoid confusion?

Cyprian: of or relating to the ancient worship of Aphrodite on Cyprus.

I consider that G/cs must fight for their own identity as Greeks of Cyprus

Good idea. They could assert their own separate identity by calling themselves "Cyprians" rather than "Greeks" - to avoid confusion.

,promoting their own Hellenic World ,separatetly of Greece-in coperation, but separatetly.

Easily done if we find a word to describe them that makes it clear they're separate - in cooperation with Greece and the rest of Europe, but separate. So the world isn't misled into thinking they still want "enosis" with Greece.

How about "Cyprians". So any citizen of Cyprus is a Cypriot but a person who chooses to identify with your particular ancient heritage is also a "Cyprian", rather than a "Greek of Cyprus", which might confuse ignorant people into thinking they're Greek citizens or still want enosis with modern Greece.

They must clarify to international community that they are the legal citizens of the Island which is under occupation by a foreign army with co-operation of T/cs and to declare that they do not negotiate anything else than their idepedence and freedom for their Island from foreigners and T/cs cooperators.,

Could they do so as Cyprians?

They must stop to fight their own identity of Hellenic culture and promote this as a defence tool for their freedom.

How about referring to it as Cyprian culture, then?

Reply to all questions: Cyprian or whatever can not be a defence tool. Is representing a bastard language, a bastard culture, a bastard definition of citizens ,a bastard state-All bastard. Affected by Latins,Arabs,Turks, and even pirates!!!This is what exactly we are not my friend. We have clear Ethnicity , clear culture, clear demand -be "Hellines" -Not misery Greeks of modern Greece but Hellines.

Do you know what i am saying here to some Greek friends- That they are not allowed to use the word Hellinas because there are much more clear representatives of the word. I include my mother , my grond mother and gront father in these. Communists, rightwings, centerwings but always Hellines.

[Get Real!]

Reply to all questions: Cyprian or whatever can not be a defence tool. Is representing a bastard language, a bastard culture, a bastard definition of citizens ,a bastard state-All bastard. Affected by Latins,Arabs,Turks, and even pirates!!!This is what exactly we are not my friend. We have clear Ethnicity , clear culture, clear demand -be "Hellines" -Not misery Greeks of modern Greece but Hellines.

Do you know what i am saying here to some Greek friends- That they are not allowed to use the word Hellinas because there are much more clear representatives of the word. I include my mother , my grond mother and gront father in these. Communists, rightwings, centerwings but always Hellines.

You should learn how to spell it first!

But anyway, what do you really think a “Hellene” is?

It’s just a Slav crossed with a Turk!

[Get Real!]

For GetReal!

για τον κυπριακό ελληνισμό και για μένα προσωπικά είναι πάντοτε πολύ ενισχυτικό να ξέρουμε ότι η Ελλάδα, η ελληνική κυβέρνηση βρίσκεται στο πλευρό μας και μας ενισχύει στον δύσκολο αγώνα που διεξάγουμε

Just a reminder that your idol considered himself part of the Cypriot Hellenism

The only person who i can not understand his origin T/c, G/c, Greek or Turk is GR.

Try Cypriot... sketto!

[EPSILON]

Reply to all questions: Cyprian or whatever can not be a defence tool. Is representing a bastard language, a bastard culture, a bastard definition of citizens ,a bastard state-All bastard. Affected by Latins,Arabs,Turks, and even pirates!!!This is what exactly we are not my friend. We have clear Ethnicity , clear culture, clear demand -be "Hellines" -Not misery Greeks of modern Greece but Hellines.

Do you know what i am saying here to some Greek friends- That they are not allowed to use the word Hellinas because there are much more clear representatives of the word. I include my mother , my grond mother and gront father in these. Communists, rightwings, centerwings but always Hellines.

You should learn how to spell it first!

But anyway, what do you really think a “Hellene” is?

It’s just a Slav crossed with a Turk!

I must avoid to reply to this since i can reply only on the way i do for Miltiades posts and i do not want

[Get Real!]

For GetReal!

για τον κυπριακό ελληνισμό και για μένα προσωπικά είναι πάντοτε πολύ ενισχυτικό να ξέρουμε ότι η Ελλάδα, η ελληνική κυβέρνηση βρίσκεται στο πλευρό μας και μας ενισχύει στον δύσκολο αγώνα που διεξάγουμε

Just a reminder that your idol considered himself part of the Cypriot Hellenism

I don't have any idols but a profound respect for Noam Chomsky.

Anyway, Initially TP engaged in the standard lip service but by the end of his term he was at such odds with Greece that people predicted that had he won a second term, Greece and Cyprus would’ve severed their relationships; and what a jolly good idea that would’ve been!

[EPSILON]

For GetReal!

για τον κυπριακό ελληνισμό και για μένα προσωπικά είναι πάντοτε πολύ ενισχυτικό να ξέρουμε ότι η Ελλάδα, η ελληνική κυβέρνηση βρίσκεται στο πλευρό μας και μας ενισχύει στον δύσκολο αγώνα που διεξάγουμε

Just a reminder that your idol considered himself part of the Cypriot Hellenism

The only person who i can not understand his origin T/c, G/c, Greek or Turk is GR.

Try Cypriot... sketto!

Cypriot..sketto means thousands of things and i prefer to be equal with all other people in earth.