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Postby Pax » Tue Sep 01, 2009 12:28 am

DT. wrote:320 People?

If nothing is done about this report either,
If this govt does not hire out the entire human rights legal team from Clifford Chance and drag Turkeys ass through every court and every newspaper and Cable news channel then we deserve what we get.

If this report of slaughtering 320 POW's with bayonnets is brushed under the carpet then he shouldn't be surprised if he sees

χριστοφια προδοτη καταδοτη

written on the Presidential Palace wall.


Small point : Clifford Chance don't do human rights. (Probably not enough money in it :( )
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Postby DT. » Tue Sep 01, 2009 12:37 am

Pax wrote:
DT. wrote:320 People?

If nothing is done about this report either,
If this govt does not hire out the entire human rights legal team from Clifford Chance and drag Turkeys ass through every court and every newspaper and Cable news channel then we deserve what we get.

If this report of slaughtering 320 POW's with bayonnets is brushed under the carpet then he shouldn't be surprised if he sees

χριστοφια προδοτη καταδοτη

written on the Presidential Palace wall.


Small point : Clifford Chance don't do human rights. (Probably not enough money in it :( )


Apologies...any of the other magic circle firms then.
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Postby Pax » Tue Sep 01, 2009 1:06 am

DT. wrote:
Pax wrote:
DT. wrote:320 People?

If nothing is done about this report either,
If this govt does not hire out the entire human rights legal team from Clifford Chance and drag Turkeys ass through every court and every newspaper and Cable news channel then we deserve what we get.

If this report of slaughtering 320 POW's with bayonnets is brushed under the carpet then he shouldn't be surprised if he sees

χριστοφια προδοτη καταδοτη

written on the Presidential Palace wall.


Small point : Clifford Chance don't do human rights. (Probably not enough money in it :( )


Apologies...any of the other magic circle firms then.


Probably not. Seriously, human rights is a mug's game if you're a lawyer who's in for the money. Long, complicated and risky issues where your client is likely to be penniless, is not the way to riches compared with mind-numbing, money-for-old-rope, commercial law. The so-called 'magic circle' law firms are exclusively commercial law firms.

In the UK the most prominent law firms in the field of human rights (and civil liberties) are relatively small practices, at most having a couple of dozen partners (compared with hundreds of partners in the commercial law firms). Possibly amongst the best in UK are Stephens Innocent, Bindmans, Birnberg Pierce, Hickman & Rose, Imran Khan ....
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Postby Piratis » Tue Sep 01, 2009 1:20 am

Christofias is trying to be as nice to the Turkish side as possible. He wants to work for a solution and he doesn't want to allow anything to destruct the process. His aim is to solve the Cyprus Problem and he doesn't care to prove that justice is on our side (since this is something that was shown many times in the past, but it is not enough to bring a solution).

I see the effort by Christofias as a good experiment. If an agreed solution with Christofias can not be found, then we should forget about any agreed solution and prepare for a long term cold war.

Personally I didn't have any hope for an agreed solution, but I think this should be enough to convince the majority (and prove that Papadopoulos was right)
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Postby RAFAELLA » Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:25 am

An interview with Mustafa Organ, a Turkish soldier serving in the 48th Ankara/Tsoumbouk artillery brigade at the time of the Turkish invasion of Cyprus, was published on 28 January 1998 in the Frankfurt-based newspaper 'Ozgur Politica'.

Organ referred to the massacre of about 100 Greek Cypriot civilians who had fled to the small village of Mora, near Nicosia. 'Those killed at the exit of the village were women, children and pensioners who were running for their lives', he said. 'The little streets and the exit areas were full of civilian pensioners and small children who were trying to get away. These people were killed in the most vicious way and some of the bodies were cut to pieces. The bodies were lying in the scorching heat for a week. Later officers told us we had to hide the bodies. I drove a bulldozer. Others dug a large and wide ditch and buried them. Soldier Efket Avcioglu from Mara? was also a witness to the event'.

Organ referred also to prisoners being killed and robbed and Greek and Turkish Cypriot women and girls being raped by Turkish officers and soldiers. 'I cannot forget a tall dark officer from Adana who raped a 13 year old Greek Cypriot girl, and the rape of two Turkish Cypriot girls near the Nicosia industrial zone', he said.

It can be said that all the human rights safeguarded by international conventions were violated by Turkey in Cyprus. The European Court of Human Rights and the Human Rights Commission of the Council of Europe have established that many crimes were committed in Cyprus by Turkish troops, such as cold-blooded murders, rapes, enforced prostitution, torture, inhuman treatment etc. By committing those crimes intentionally and on a mass scale, Turkey is answerable for war crimes and/or crimes against humanity. Having in mind the 1948 United Nations Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, together with relevant judgments of international courts, Turkey's conduct towards the Greek Cypriot population in the occupied area of Cyprus should be considered as an act of genocide. Large-scale killings of both conscripts and civilians, cold-blooded murders, deliberate infliction of serious bodily and mental harm, all directed against Greek Cypriots simply because of their ethnic origin, race and religion, constitute a genocide according to international


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Postby RAFAELLA » Tue Sep 01, 2009 4:43 pm

Testimonies of turkish soldiers for the atrocities the Turkish army commited during the "peace" operation in 1974
- sorry, only in Greek

Κύπρος 1974 - Εν ψυχρώ δολοφονίες αμάχων
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGPxJCpk ... re=related

Ντοκουμέντο οι τούρκοι Βίαζαν Κύπριες
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vSF62MW ... re=related
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The Palekythro massacre: survivors tell their stories
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ui511e4r ... re=related
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Postby EPSILON » Tue Sep 01, 2009 4:49 pm

RAFAELLA wrote:An interview with Mustafa Organ, a Turkish soldier serving in the 48th Ankara/Tsoumbouk artillery brigade at the time of the Turkish invasion of Cyprus, was published on 28 January 1998 in the Frankfurt-based newspaper 'Ozgur Politica'.

Organ referred to the massacre of about 100 Greek Cypriot civilians who had fled to the small village of Mora, near Nicosia. 'Those killed at the exit of the village were women, children and pensioners who were running for their lives', he said. 'The little streets and the exit areas were full of civilian pensioners and small children who were trying to get away. These people were killed in the most vicious way and some of the bodies were cut to pieces. The bodies were lying in the scorching heat for a week. Later officers told us we had to hide the bodies. I drove a bulldozer. Others dug a large and wide ditch and buried them. Soldier Efket Avcioglu from Mara? was also a witness to the event'.

Organ referred also to prisoners being killed and robbed and Greek and Turkish Cypriot women and girls being raped by Turkish officers and soldiers. 'I cannot forget a tall dark officer from Adana who raped a 13 year old Greek Cypriot girl, and the rape of two Turkish Cypriot girls near the Nicosia industrial zone', he said.

It can be said that all the human rights safeguarded by international conventions were violated by Turkey in Cyprus. The European Court of Human Rights and the Human Rights Commission of the Council of Europe have established that many crimes were committed in Cyprus by Turkish troops, such as cold-blooded murders, rapes, enforced prostitution, torture, inhuman treatment etc. By committing those crimes intentionally and on a mass scale, Turkey is answerable for war crimes and/or crimes against humanity. Having in mind the 1948 United Nations Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, together with relevant judgments of international courts, Turkey's conduct towards the Greek Cypriot population in the occupied area of Cyprus should be considered as an act of genocide. Large-scale killings of both conscripts and civilians, cold-blooded murders, deliberate infliction of serious bodily and mental harm, all directed against Greek Cypriots simply because of their ethnic origin, race and religion, constitute a genocide according to international


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Rafaella stop posting such things. You are destroying the climate of negotiations- Cyprus government will sent you to human rights court for this. Keep secret what Turks did in Cyprus-do not forget that they are our brothers and our future cooperators/shareholders and..masters in all Cyprus....
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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Sep 01, 2009 4:54 pm

EPSILON wrote:
RAFAELLA wrote:An interview with Mustafa Organ, a Turkish soldier serving in the 48th Ankara/Tsoumbouk artillery brigade at the time of the Turkish invasion of Cyprus, was published on 28 January 1998 in the Frankfurt-based newspaper 'Ozgur Politica'.

Organ referred to the massacre of about 100 Greek Cypriot civilians who had fled to the small village of Mora, near Nicosia. 'Those killed at the exit of the village were women, children and pensioners who were running for their lives', he said. 'The little streets and the exit areas were full of civilian pensioners and small children who were trying to get away. These people were killed in the most vicious way and some of the bodies were cut to pieces. The bodies were lying in the scorching heat for a week. Later officers told us we had to hide the bodies. I drove a bulldozer. Others dug a large and wide ditch and buried them. Soldier Efket Avcioglu from Mara? was also a witness to the event'.

Organ referred also to prisoners being killed and robbed and Greek and Turkish Cypriot women and girls being raped by Turkish officers and soldiers. 'I cannot forget a tall dark officer from Adana who raped a 13 year old Greek Cypriot girl, and the rape of two Turkish Cypriot girls near the Nicosia industrial zone', he said.

It can be said that all the human rights safeguarded by international conventions were violated by Turkey in Cyprus. The European Court of Human Rights and the Human Rights Commission of the Council of Europe have established that many crimes were committed in Cyprus by Turkish troops, such as cold-blooded murders, rapes, enforced prostitution, torture, inhuman treatment etc. By committing those crimes intentionally and on a mass scale, Turkey is answerable for war crimes and/or crimes against humanity. Having in mind the 1948 United Nations Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, together with relevant judgments of international courts, Turkey's conduct towards the Greek Cypriot population in the occupied area of Cyprus should be considered as an act of genocide. Large-scale killings of both conscripts and civilians, cold-blooded murders, deliberate infliction of serious bodily and mental harm, all directed against Greek Cypriots simply because of their ethnic origin, race and religion, constitute a genocide according to international


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Rafaella stop posting such things. You are destroying the climate of negotiations- Cyprus government will sent you to human rights court for this. Keep secret what Turks did in Cyprus-do not forget that they are our brothers and our future cooperators/shareholders and..masters in all Cyprus....



Dont be sarcastic. Let the truth come out from whatever quarter they need to. The people have the right to know the fate of their loved ones. Who ever they are.
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Postby EPSILON » Tue Sep 01, 2009 4:58 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
EPSILON wrote:
RAFAELLA wrote:An interview with Mustafa Organ, a Turkish soldier serving in the 48th Ankara/Tsoumbouk artillery brigade at the time of the Turkish invasion of Cyprus, was published on 28 January 1998 in the Frankfurt-based newspaper 'Ozgur Politica'.

Organ referred to the massacre of about 100 Greek Cypriot civilians who had fled to the small village of Mora, near Nicosia. 'Those killed at the exit of the village were women, children and pensioners who were running for their lives', he said. 'The little streets and the exit areas were full of civilian pensioners and small children who were trying to get away. These people were killed in the most vicious way and some of the bodies were cut to pieces. The bodies were lying in the scorching heat for a week. Later officers told us we had to hide the bodies. I drove a bulldozer. Others dug a large and wide ditch and buried them. Soldier Efket Avcioglu from Mara? was also a witness to the event'.

Organ referred also to prisoners being killed and robbed and Greek and Turkish Cypriot women and girls being raped by Turkish officers and soldiers. 'I cannot forget a tall dark officer from Adana who raped a 13 year old Greek Cypriot girl, and the rape of two Turkish Cypriot girls near the Nicosia industrial zone', he said.

It can be said that all the human rights safeguarded by international conventions were violated by Turkey in Cyprus. The European Court of Human Rights and the Human Rights Commission of the Council of Europe have established that many crimes were committed in Cyprus by Turkish troops, such as cold-blooded murders, rapes, enforced prostitution, torture, inhuman treatment etc. By committing those crimes intentionally and on a mass scale, Turkey is answerable for war crimes and/or crimes against humanity. Having in mind the 1948 United Nations Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, together with relevant judgments of international courts, Turkey's conduct towards the Greek Cypriot population in the occupied area of Cyprus should be considered as an act of genocide. Large-scale killings of both conscripts and civilians, cold-blooded murders, deliberate infliction of serious bodily and mental harm, all directed against Greek Cypriots simply because of their ethnic origin, race and religion, constitute a genocide according to international


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Rafaella stop posting such things. You are destroying the climate of negotiations- Cyprus government will sent you to human rights court for this. Keep secret what Turks did in Cyprus-do not forget that they are our brothers and our future cooperators/shareholders and..masters in all Cyprus....



Dont be sarcastic. Let the truth come out from whatever quarter they need to. The people have the right to know the fate of their loved ones. Who ever they are.


Like the 5's photos which were kept secret by the G/cs "great politicians" for 35 years?
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Sep 01, 2009 6:21 pm

EPSILON wrote:Rafaella stop posting such things. You are destroying the climate of negotiations- Cyprus government will sent you to human rights court for this.

What else can she do? The brave "Hellenic" military machine she was waiting for never arrived to save her... :?

Fancy that! One hundred years of “Hellenic” rhetoric propagated on Cyprus, and when it finally came to the crunch it all evaporated faster than a fart! Image
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