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Talat: Strong possibility of permanent partition

Postby Lit » Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:12 pm

So how is Talat any different from Denktash? Have we been suckered by the good cop, bad cop routine:
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Talat to Milliyet newspaper: “The possibility of permanent partition on the island is getting stronger”

Turkish daily Milliyet newspaper (31.08.09) under the title “The possibility of permanent partition is getting stronger”, carries an interview with the Turkish Cypriot leader Mehmet Ali Talat by the newspaper’s correspondent to the occupied Cyprus, Mr Sefa Karahasan. During the interview, which was given prior to the launching of the second round of the negotiations on September 3, Mr Talat said that the possibility of permanent partition on the island is getting stronger. He also said that the solution of the Cyprus problem has an influence on the democratization in Turkey and its openings. “Cyprus is in safe hands and no one is selling Cyprus,” Mr Talat added.

The newspaper reports on the parts of the interview under specific subtitles:
Under the subtitle, “The negotiations will not last forever”, the paper writes that Mr Talat stated: “The negotiations do not last forever. (The point when we shall say stop) will definitely come. Just as everything has an end, so do the negotiations if they are not successful. Besides, this process will be prostrated by itself. At the end of this process, the sides will be reluctant and [the process] will collapse. I am at the point where a solution is possible.”

Under the subtitle, “Christofias is ridiculous”, Mr Talat is reported to have said that Cyprus cannot be compared with Turkey. “Turkey is a huge country. (Greek Cypriot leader Demetris Christofias) to threaten Turkey is a bit ridiculous. I warn Christofias every time. Enough of your assault towards Turkey. You are making a mistake. Turkey does not take you as a collocutor. It does not reply to you.”

Under the subtitle, “Morfou - Karpass”, Mr Talat is quoted to have said that he is not willing to give back the areas of occupied Morfou and Karpass. “These issues have not been taken up yet. Let us not speak through the press,” he said.


Under the subtitle, “Permanent partition”, Mr Talat is quoted to have said that the possibility of permanent partition is getting stronger with every passing day. “And this is a reality, I am saying this. As long as there is no solution, the permanent partition is getting stronger.”

Under the subtitle, “The issue of the Turkish army” the paper further reports that Mr Talat said that until there is a solution, the presence of the Turkish army here is unavoidable. “If the Turkish army withdraws without a solution, the Greek Cypriot side will immediately realize its sovereignty on the North. The Greek Cypriots will come and say that this house is mine. Then a conflict will occur. Had it not been for Turkey this struggle would not have been waged. No resistance of the Turkish Cypriots would be possible.”

Under the subtitle, “The candidacy for President”, the paper reports that Mr Talat said: “If the gates of solution really close completely, then the situation should be evaluated. My target and mission is to resolve the Cyprus problem.” He went on by adding that if he could not get along with his mission, it is natural that there will not be a place for him there.

Under the subtitle, “The recognition of the TRNC”, Mr Talat said: “Let’s not speak about dreams. If there was a possibility for recognition of the TRNC, surely, today we would be at a very different point.”

Under the subtitle, “Koran courses”, the paper quotes Mr Talat: “These are very annoying. And this is the first time that this emerged on the island. This should not be happening. Even if this is right, the education on religion is given in the schools during the school period, not during the summer vacations. I see it developing badly.”

Finally, under the subtitle, “Selling out Cyprus”, Mr Talat is reported to have stated the following: “Cyprus is not being sold to anybody. I will tell this to the Turkish people: ‘No one should worry about the Cyprus problem. It is in safe hands’. There will be no agreement against neither the Turkish Cypriots nor Turkey. We are pursuing a mutually acceptable solution. And this solution cannot be against the Turkish Cypriots and Turkey.”
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Postby Lit » Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:20 pm

Read it all here from the Ministry of Interior, Press and Information Office website:

http://www.moi.gov.cy/moi/pio/pio.nsf/A ... enDocument
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Postby insan » Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:46 pm

What's ur point regarding the speech of Talat. First make ur points then we may discuss.

If u r in dream of any TC leader would accept minority status for TCs, then u r doomed to keep dreaming the impossible.
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Postby paliometoxo » Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:47 pm

there goes talat sleep walking again .... Dreaming
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Postby miltiades » Mon Aug 31, 2009 3:13 pm

Turkey's preparations for the annexation of the occupied part are well in process right now. They have underestimated the UN , Europe and the likely reaction from the USA , Britain and indeed the entire world.
Like a bull in a china shop they are forging ahead oblivious to the consequences that such an irresponsible action will bring.
Having reduced the T/Cs to what I believe now amounts to a small minority in the occupied parts they have now put in full motion the annexation of the occupied parts.
This explains the reason the word T/C is no longer used .
It looks to me that the current talks are doomed to fail , Turkey wants them to fail and she will ensure that they will.
She well then tell the world that either the "trnc" is recognized or the annexation of the north part of Cyprus will proceed.
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Re: Talat: Strong possibility of permanent partition

Postby Get Real! » Mon Aug 31, 2009 3:15 pm

Lit wrote:Talat to Milliyet newspaper: “The possibility of permanent partition on the island is getting stronger”

A dream that will not be realized...
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Postby insan » Mon Aug 31, 2009 3:17 pm

miltiades wrote:Turkey's preparations for the annexation of the occupied part are well in process right now. They have underestimated the UN , Europe and the likely reaction from the USA , Britain and indeed the entire world.
Like a bull in a china shop they are forging ahead oblivious to the consequences that such an irresponsible action will bring.
Having reduced the T/Cs to what I believe now amounts to a small minority in the occupied parts they have now put in full motion the annexation of the occupied parts.
This explains the reason the word T/C is no longer used .
It looks to me that the current talks are doomed to fail , Turkey wants them to fail and she will ensure that they will.
She well then tell the world that either the "trnc" is recognized or the annexation of the north part of Cyprus will proceed.


Milti, if there is such an annexation process be sure the UN , Europe, USA , Britain and indeed the entire world r informed abt it and even in collaboration.
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Postby paliometoxo » Mon Aug 31, 2009 3:19 pm

miltiades wrote:Turkey's preparations for the annexation of the occupied part are well in process right now. They have underestimated the UN , Europe and the likely reaction from the USA , Britain and indeed the entire world.
Like a bull in a china shop they are forging ahead oblivious to the consequences that such an irresponsible action will bring.
Having reduced the T/Cs to what I believe now amounts to a small minority in the occupied parts they have now put in full motion the annexation of the occupied parts.
This explains the reason the word T/C is no longer used .
It looks to me that the current talks are doomed to fail , Turkey wants them to fail and she will ensure that they will.
She well then tell the world that either the "trnc" is recognized or the annexation of the north part of Cyprus will proceed.


look at mumma turkey trying to take on the world.. Try to threaten all the nations eu un uk usa... And they think they will listen or let them annex cyprus.... Lets watch turkey be put in her place...
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Postby Nikitas » Mon Aug 31, 2009 4:37 pm

What have we had for the last 35 years other than permanent partition?

And what is the difference between BBF as described by Talat with Bizonality at all levels, including the right to purchase property, and partition?

If they are not willing to negotiate Morphou and Karpasia what are we talking about then? Measoria cannot be used as way to balance the territory issue as it is the area surrounding the airport. Without Karpasia and Morphou there is no chance of the coastline being fairly apportioned.

We are being led down the garden path by a failed electrician turned politician.
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Postby Lit » Tue Sep 01, 2009 1:04 am

miltiades wrote:It looks to me that the current talks are doomed to fail , Turkey wants them to fail and she will ensure that they will.
She well then tell the world that either the "trnc" is recognized or the annexation of the north part of Cyprus will proceed.


Wow, what took you so long to come to this conclusion? Way to go Milt, you have finally realized what many GCs already knew for years.
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