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Re: Why doesn't Turkey drop Cyprus?

Postby Get Real! » Mon Aug 31, 2009 7:57 am

Oracle wrote:Why doesn't Turkey drop Cyprus?

I’d reverse the question and ask those who call themselves “Cypriot” why they refuse to drop Turkey or Greece…
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Re: Why doesn't Turkey drop Cyprus?

Postby Oracle » Mon Aug 31, 2009 8:20 am

Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:Why doesn't Turkey drop Cyprus?

I’d reverse the question and ask those who call themselves “Cypriot” why they refuse to drop Turkey or Greece…


Then it wouldn't make sense because Greece doesn't call Cyprus anything other than Cyprus, since it recognises it for being Cyprus.

Turkey has tried all sorts of labels and name changes yet all still inclusive of the name Cyprus (which it doesn't apparently recognise), such as "KKTC" and "TRNC". The label "Turks of Cyprus" suggests they recognise the sovereignty of Cyprus.

The argument was why they cannot drop the name Cyprus ...

Nikitas suggests this important reason:

Nikitas wrote:]Oracle, it is simple: the use of the name Cyprus in a title justifies future claims to the whole island.

If anoyne thinks that the current situation or anything that might result from the talks will make these claims go away is a fool. That is the reason for mass naturalisations and insistence on guarantees and permanent armed presence.


I think because of the historical significance of the name Cyprus (being one of the oldest names for a country), dropping it would unleash international condemnation such that Turkey would lose the status quo it maintains by doing things piecemeal (continuing to use the name Cyprus)...
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Re: Why doesn't Turkey drop Cyprus?

Postby denizaksulu » Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:35 am

Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:Why doesn't Turkey drop Cyprus?

I’d reverse the question and ask those who call themselves “Cypriot” why they refuse to drop Turkey or Greece…



Why bother asking the obvious GR? Very few will admit otherwise they will tell some untruths.
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Re: Why doesn't Turkey drop Cyprus?

Postby denizaksulu » Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:38 am

Oracle wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:Why doesn't Turkey drop Cyprus?

I’d reverse the question and ask those who call themselves “Cypriot” why they refuse to drop Turkey or Greece…


Then it wouldn't make sense because Greece doesn't call Cyprus anything other than Cyprus, since it recognises it for being Cyprus.

Turkey has tried all sorts of labels and name changes yet all still inclusive of the name Cyprus (which it doesn't apparently recognise), such as "KKTC" and "TRNC". The label "Turks of Cyprus" suggests they recognise the sovereignty of Cyprus.

The argument was why they cannot drop the name Cyprus ...

Nikitas suggests this important reason:

Nikitas wrote:]Oracle, it is simple: the use of the name Cyprus in a title justifies future claims to the whole island.

If anoyne thinks that the current situation or anything that might result from the talks will make these claims go away is a fool. That is the reason for mass naturalisations and insistence on guarantees and permanent armed presence.


I think because of the historical significance of the name Cyprus (being one of the oldest names for a country), dropping it would unleash international condemnation such that Turkey would lose the status quo it maintains by doing things piecemeal (continuing to use the name Cyprus)...


The simplest answer to the thread title is that it had never occured to them.
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Re: Why doesn't Turkey drop Cyprus?

Postby Oracle » Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:40 am

denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:Why doesn't Turkey drop Cyprus?

I’d reverse the question and ask those who call themselves “Cypriot” why they refuse to drop Turkey or Greece…


Then it wouldn't make sense because Greece doesn't call Cyprus anything other than Cyprus, since it recognises it for being Cyprus.

Turkey has tried all sorts of labels and name changes yet all still inclusive of the name Cyprus (which it doesn't apparently recognise), such as "KKTC" and "TRNC". The label "Turks of Cyprus" suggests they recognise the sovereignty of Cyprus.

The argument was why they cannot drop the name Cyprus ...

Nikitas suggests this important reason:

Nikitas wrote:]Oracle, it is simple: the use of the name Cyprus in a title justifies future claims to the whole island.

If anoyne thinks that the current situation or anything that might result from the talks will make these claims go away is a fool. That is the reason for mass naturalisations and insistence on guarantees and permanent armed presence.


I think because of the historical significance of the name Cyprus (being one of the oldest names for a country), dropping it would unleash international condemnation such that Turkey would lose the status quo it maintains by doing things piecemeal (continuing to use the name Cyprus)...


The simplest answer to the thread title is that it had never occured to them.


:lol:

This is the most stupid attempt at a reason! :roll:
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Re: Why doesn't Turkey drop Cyprus?

Postby NikosGB23 » Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:41 am

denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:Why doesn't Turkey drop Cyprus?

I’d reverse the question and ask those who call themselves “Cypriot” why they refuse to drop Turkey or Greece…


Then it wouldn't make sense because Greece doesn't call Cyprus anything other than Cyprus, since it recognises it for being Cyprus.

Turkey has tried all sorts of labels and name changes yet all still inclusive of the name Cyprus (which it doesn't apparently recognise), such as "KKTC" and "TRNC". The label "Turks of Cyprus" suggests they recognise the sovereignty of Cyprus.

The argument was why they cannot drop the name Cyprus ...

Nikitas suggests this important reason:

Nikitas wrote:]Oracle, it is simple: the use of the name Cyprus in a title justifies future claims to the whole island.

If anoyne thinks that the current situation or anything that might result from the talks will make these claims go away is a fool. That is the reason for mass naturalisations and insistence on guarantees and permanent armed presence.


I think because of the historical significance of the name Cyprus (being one of the oldest names for a country), dropping it would unleash international condemnation such that Turkey would lose the status quo it maintains by doing things piecemeal (continuing to use the name Cyprus)...


The simplest answer to the thread title is that it had never occured to them.


Well that says alot about Turkey...can't even think of a name for their ilegal nation?
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Re: Why doesn't Turkey drop Cyprus?

Postby denizaksulu » Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:52 am

NikosGB23 wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:Why doesn't Turkey drop Cyprus?

I’d reverse the question and ask those who call themselves “Cypriot” why they refuse to drop Turkey or Greece…


Then it wouldn't make sense because Greece doesn't call Cyprus anything other than Cyprus, since it recognises it for being Cyprus.

Turkey has tried all sorts of labels and name changes yet all still inclusive of the name Cyprus (which it doesn't apparently recognise), such as "KKTC" and "TRNC". The label "Turks of Cyprus" suggests they recognise the sovereignty of Cyprus.

The argument was why they cannot drop the name Cyprus ...

Nikitas suggests this important reason:

Nikitas wrote:]Oracle, it is simple: the use of the name Cyprus in a title justifies future claims to the whole island.

If anoyne thinks that the current situation or anything that might result from the talks will make these claims go away is a fool. That is the reason for mass naturalisations and insistence on guarantees and permanent armed presence.


I think because of the historical significance of the name Cyprus (being one of the oldest names for a country), dropping it would unleash international condemnation such that Turkey would lose the status quo it maintains by doing things piecemeal (continuing to use the name Cyprus)...


The simplest answer to the thread title is that it had never occured to them.


Well that says alot about Turkey...can't even think of a name for their ilegal nation?


Go back to sleep Nikos. :lol:
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Re: Why doesn't Turkey drop Cyprus?

Postby NikosGB23 » Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:53 am

denizaksulu wrote:
NikosGB23 wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:Why doesn't Turkey drop Cyprus?

I’d reverse the question and ask those who call themselves “Cypriot” why they refuse to drop Turkey or Greece…


Then it wouldn't make sense because Greece doesn't call Cyprus anything other than Cyprus, since it recognises it for being Cyprus.

Turkey has tried all sorts of labels and name changes yet all still inclusive of the name Cyprus (which it doesn't apparently recognise), such as "KKTC" and "TRNC". The label "Turks of Cyprus" suggests they recognise the sovereignty of Cyprus.

The argument was why they cannot drop the name Cyprus ...

Nikitas suggests this important reason:

Nikitas wrote:]Oracle, it is simple: the use of the name Cyprus in a title justifies future claims to the whole island.

If anoyne thinks that the current situation or anything that might result from the talks will make these claims go away is a fool. That is the reason for mass naturalisations and insistence on guarantees and permanent armed presence.


I think because of the historical significance of the name Cyprus (being one of the oldest names for a country), dropping it would unleash international condemnation such that Turkey would lose the status quo it maintains by doing things piecemeal (continuing to use the name Cyprus)...


The simplest answer to the thread title is that it had never occured to them.


Well that says alot about Turkey...can't even think of a name for their ilegal nation?


Go back to sleep Nikos. :lol:


fine.. :roll:
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:57 am

Your questions about invitations to Cyprus answered here:

Q1: Why is Turkey in Cyprus?
A1: Well duh! Because some “Cypriots” invited Turkey to come to Cyprus!

Q2: Why is Greece in Cyprus?
A2: Well duh! Because some “Cypriots” invited Greece to come to Cyprus!

Q3: Will Greece and Turkey ever abandon Cyprus?
A3: Well duh! Will you ever stop inviting them?


Still don’t get it?

If and when you all STOP from inviting Greece and Turkey over, they won’t come anymore! :roll:
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Postby Oracle » Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:10 am

Get Real! wrote:Your questions about invitations to Cyprus answered here:

Q1: Why is Turkey in Cyprus?
A1: Well duh! Because some “Cypriots” invited Turkey to come to Cyprus!

Q2: Why is Greece in Cyprus?
A2: Well duh! Because some “Cypriots” invited Greece to come to Cyprus!

Q3: Will Greece and Turkey ever abandon Cyprus?
A3: Well duh! Will you ever stop inviting them?


Still don’t get it?

If and when you all STOP from inviting Greece and Turkey over, they won’t come anymore! :roll:


What has any of this to do with Turkey being unable to drop the name of Cyprus from their constructs?
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