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Why doesn't Turkey drop Cyprus?

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Postby YFred » Tue Sep 08, 2009 3:15 pm

Oracle wrote:
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YFred wrote:
DT. wrote:
YFred wrote:You must have some Israeli blood in you old boy. They don't believe in title deeds either, they go by their 5000 year old tora. Is that what it says in your scriptures too? Greek Orthodox bloody church should be banned from Cyprus.


The church has always thrived in times of occupation. End the military occupation and watch the church's influence disappear.

What about the Title deeds comment? Or are you suffering from some sort of attention disorder?
May your church take you back 2000 years and enjoy it, asshole.


Don't be angry Yfred.



I wish I could swear as much as some forumers; then I would have more credibility. :lol: :lol:

My fees for Anger Management and how to be Fair , Firm and Persuasive are very reasonable and free to my friends. :lol:


"Firm and Persuasive" ... is that what you call killing unarmed GC POWs?

You can call it anything you want, what ever it means to you dearest lady. Thats what matters. If that's what it meant while they were killing women and children and the old in Sandalilar, Atlilar and Murataga, then that's what it means.
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Postby EPSILON » Tue Sep 08, 2009 3:19 pm

YFred wrote:
Oracle wrote:
YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
DT. wrote:
YFred wrote:
DT. wrote:
YFred wrote:You must have some Israeli blood in you old boy. They don't believe in title deeds either, they go by their 5000 year old tora. Is that what it says in your scriptures too? Greek Orthodox bloody church should be banned from Cyprus.


The church has always thrived in times of occupation. End the military occupation and watch the church's influence disappear.

What about the Title deeds comment? Or are you suffering from some sort of attention disorder?
May your church take you back 2000 years and enjoy it, asshole.


Don't be angry Yfred.



I wish I could swear as much as some forumers; then I would have more credibility. :lol: :lol:

My fees for Anger Management and how to be Fair , Firm and Persuasive are very reasonable and free to my friends. :lol:


"Firm and Persuasive" ... is that what you call killing unarmed GC POWs?

You can call it anything you want, what ever it means to you dearest lady. Thats what matters. If that's what it meant while they were killing women and children and the old in Sandalilar, Atlilar and Murataga, then that's what it means.


Therefore your conclusion is that the Turkish official army is equal to a terrorist organization!!!In such a case only the official army can be sent to human rights court-or i am wrong?
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Postby Oracle » Tue Sep 08, 2009 3:23 pm

YFred wrote:
Oracle wrote:
YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
DT. wrote:
YFred wrote:
DT. wrote:
YFred wrote:You must have some Israeli blood in you old boy. They don't believe in title deeds either, they go by their 5000 year old tora. Is that what it says in your scriptures too? Greek Orthodox bloody church should be banned from Cyprus.


The church has always thrived in times of occupation. End the military occupation and watch the church's influence disappear.

What about the Title deeds comment? Or are you suffering from some sort of attention disorder?
May your church take you back 2000 years and enjoy it, asshole.


Don't be angry Yfred.



I wish I could swear as much as some forumers; then I would have more credibility. :lol: :lol:

My fees for Anger Management and how to be Fair , Firm and Persuasive are very reasonable and free to my friends. :lol:


"Firm and Persuasive" ... is that what you call killing unarmed GC POWs?

You can call it anything you want, what ever it means to you dearest lady. Thats what matters. If that's what it meant while they were killing women and children and the old in Sandalilar, Atlilar and Murataga, then that's what it means.


But I've never "boasted" of such a thing, and nor has anyone else ... Unlike you ... with your showing off about TMT connections with random boasts on the forum :roll: Seems to me you seem to be in the "know" about any number of killings on the island ... from GCs to even TC-killings by TMT ... so what role did you play in the above?

Go on spin us another yarn .... since you can type fast enough with your one good hand left after blowing the other off with your home-made bombs ... :roll:
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Postby YFred » Tue Sep 08, 2009 3:32 pm

Oracle wrote:
YFred wrote:
Oracle wrote:
YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
DT. wrote:
YFred wrote:
DT. wrote:
YFred wrote:You must have some Israeli blood in you old boy. They don't believe in title deeds either, they go by their 5000 year old tora. Is that what it says in your scriptures too? Greek Orthodox bloody church should be banned from Cyprus.


The church has always thrived in times of occupation. End the military occupation and watch the church's influence disappear.

What about the Title deeds comment? Or are you suffering from some sort of attention disorder?
May your church take you back 2000 years and enjoy it, asshole.


Don't be angry Yfred.



I wish I could swear as much as some forumers; then I would have more credibility. :lol: :lol:

My fees for Anger Management and how to be Fair , Firm and Persuasive are very reasonable and free to my friends. :lol:


"Firm and Persuasive" ... is that what you call killing unarmed GC POWs?

You can call it anything you want, what ever it means to you dearest lady. Thats what matters. If that's what it meant while they were killing women and children and the old in Sandalilar, Atlilar and Murataga, then that's what it means.


But I've never "boasted" of such a thing, and nor has anyone else ... Unlike you ... with your showing off about TMT connections with random boasts on the forum :roll: Seems to me you seem to be in the "know" about any number of killings on the island ... from GCs to even TC-killings by TMT ... so what role did you play in the above?

Go on spin us another yarn .... since you can type fast enough with your one good hand left after blowing the other off with your home-made bombs ... :roll:

Your ancestors must be turning in their graves, if you believe the only knowledge we have is acquired by personal experience.
Australia exists on the other side of the world. I have never been there, yet I know it exists. Work that one out biology genius.
You stupid cow. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby DT. » Tue Sep 08, 2009 3:42 pm

YFred wrote:
Oracle wrote:
YFred wrote:
Oracle wrote:
YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
DT. wrote:
YFred wrote:
DT. wrote:
YFred wrote:You must have some Israeli blood in you old boy. They don't believe in title deeds either, they go by their 5000 year old tora. Is that what it says in your scriptures too? Greek Orthodox bloody church should be banned from Cyprus.


The church has always thrived in times of occupation. End the military occupation and watch the church's influence disappear.

What about the Title deeds comment? Or are you suffering from some sort of attention disorder?
May your church take you back 2000 years and enjoy it, asshole.


Don't be angry Yfred.



I wish I could swear as much as some forumers; then I would have more credibility. :lol: :lol:

My fees for Anger Management and how to be Fair , Firm and Persuasive are very reasonable and free to my friends. :lol:


"Firm and Persuasive" ... is that what you call killing unarmed GC POWs?

You can call it anything you want, what ever it means to you dearest lady. Thats what matters. If that's what it meant while they were killing women and children and the old in Sandalilar, Atlilar and Murataga, then that's what it means.


But I've never "boasted" of such a thing, and nor has anyone else ... Unlike you ... with your showing off about TMT connections with random boasts on the forum :roll: Seems to me you seem to be in the "know" about any number of killings on the island ... from GCs to even TC-killings by TMT ... so what role did you play in the above?

Go on spin us another yarn .... since you can type fast enough with your one good hand left after blowing the other off with your home-made bombs ... :roll:

Your ancestors must be turning in their graves, if you believe the only knowledge we have is acquired by personal experience.
Australia exists on the other side of the world. I have never been there, yet I know it exists. Work that one out biology genius.
You stupid cow. :lol: :lol: :lol:


Don't blame people if you've been boasting about your families tmt activities. Should have thought about it before you did it. :roll:
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Postby Oracle » Tue Sep 08, 2009 4:14 pm

YFred wrote:Your ancestors must be turning in their graves, if you believe the only knowledge we have is acquired by personal experience.
Australia exists on the other side of the world. I have never been there, yet I know it exists. Work that one out biology genius.
You stupid cow. :lol: :lol: :lol:


However, you would say you've been there just because you know it exists!

In that case you are confessing yourself to be a pathological liar if you are unable to tell the difference between saying you have done something and saying you have heard of others doing these things and you are just borrowing their memories and passing them off as your own.

The whole forum is littered with your lies in that case.

Or maybe you are just like that Attila actor; confess to get your evil off your chest and then deny it and pretend you are just relating second hand information ...

Is this another of your carefully worded "confessions" ... suggesting you were there and then will deny it ...

YFred wrote:I'll let you into a secret. The leader of tmt in Lurucina lost his hand doing such activities during one bayram. I do remember that smell.


Either way you are proving to be a total waste of time as far as reading ANY of your posts goes as they are all just a bunch of made-up stories from your head ....

And stop accusing others, who have shown nothing but integrity and honesty on this forum, of made up stuff from your tiny dehydrated dunce-head.

You are a crying shame!
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Postby YFred » Tue Sep 08, 2009 4:44 pm

Oracle wrote:
YFred wrote:Your ancestors must be turning in their graves, if you believe the only knowledge we have is acquired by personal experience.
Australia exists on the other side of the world. I have never been there, yet I know it exists. Work that one out biology genius.
You stupid cow. :lol: :lol: :lol:


However, you would say you've been there just because you know it exists!

In that case you are confessing yourself to be a pathological liar if you are unable to tell the difference between saying you have done something and saying you have heard of others doing these things and you are just borrowing their memories and passing them off as your own.

The whole forum is littered with your lies in that case.

Or maybe you are just like that Attila actor; confess to get your evil off your chest and then deny it and pretend you are just relating second hand information ...

Is this another of your carefully worded "confessions" ... suggesting you were there and then will deny it ...

YFred wrote:I'll let you into a secret. The leader of tmt in Lurucina lost his hand doing such activities during one bayram. I do remember that smell.


Either way you are proving to be a total waste of time as far as reading ANY of your posts goes as they are all just a bunch of made-up stories from your head ....

And stop accusing others, who have shown nothing but integrity and honesty on this forum, of made up stuff from your tiny dehydrated dunce-head.

You are a crying shame!

When my friends from forum meet me one day, they will quickly realise that I smile a lot, never cry and and never in shame. :lol: :lol: :lol:
O androbin banosu je bansdu DT bu lalide psemada. Lamron nasus gapsi , na sas grusi je nasas gami guzzalin, je suni je o DTs. :wink:
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Postby DT. » Tue Sep 08, 2009 4:48 pm

YFred wrote:
Oracle wrote:
YFred wrote:Your ancestors must be turning in their graves, if you believe the only knowledge we have is acquired by personal experience.
Australia exists on the other side of the world. I have never been there, yet I know it exists. Work that one out biology genius.
You stupid cow. :lol: :lol: :lol:


However, you would say you've been there just because you know it exists!

In that case you are confessing yourself to be a pathological liar if you are unable to tell the difference between saying you have done something and saying you have heard of others doing these things and you are just borrowing their memories and passing them off as your own.

The whole forum is littered with your lies in that case.

Or maybe you are just like that Attila actor; confess to get your evil off your chest and then deny it and pretend you are just relating second hand information ...

Is this another of your carefully worded "confessions" ... suggesting you were there and then will deny it ...

YFred wrote:I'll let you into a secret. The leader of tmt in Lurucina lost his hand doing such activities during one bayram. I do remember that smell.


Either way you are proving to be a total waste of time as far as reading ANY of your posts goes as they are all just a bunch of made-up stories from your head ....

And stop accusing others, who have shown nothing but integrity and honesty on this forum, of made up stuff from your tiny dehydrated dunce-head.

You are a crying shame!

When my friends from forum meet me one day, they will quickly realise that I smile a lot, never cry and and never in shame. :lol: :lol: :lol:
O androbin banosu je bansdu DT bu lalide psemada. Lamron nasus gapsi je suni je o DTs. :wink:


Mine have already met me Yfred, both TC and GC. They know who has been spreading lies here.

And I have no doubt you'll be smiling with the pleasure you take from remembering your past. :twisted:
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Postby NikosGB23 » Tue Sep 08, 2009 9:36 pm

YFred wrote:
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Simon wrote:The Cyprus problem is a modern day anomaly, where Turkey has ethnically cleansed the indigenous population and altered the demographics of a sovereign nation. Nicosia is the only divided capital in the world. All this happened in 1974 and between 160,000-200,000 people are still denied the right to return to their homes. (This would have been the equivalent of about 110 million people in the USA). Have a read:

http://www.kypros.org/Cyprus_Problem/overview.html


Simon..I read and I have a few question for you or anyone with answers....

is there a reason they (Turkey) invaded???

Did the Greece come and help the Cypriots?

Why are there so many Russians here..Did they have anything to do with it?


Once again am just aa outsider here on Vacation trying to get a glimps of this beautiful Island.

Unbias knowledge is power


okay JB, trying to get any infromation thats unbias on the forum is impossible. each side has their pros, and cons.

if you want the truth then let a fellow Greek Cypriot American tell you. Cyprus has been around for ages with many invasions, occupations, and other things like that. but to answer your question for the current GC(Greek Cypriot)-TC(Turkish Cypriot) dispute is complicated. Greeks and Turks have never got along since probably ancient times. And Both sides claim they have equal rights to the island because they both claim that they have had an ethnical presence on the island for many years. but the cause of the invasion was because of an attack on the Cypriot government by Greek extremists from Greece. they sided with EOKA(The Cypriot national guard) and tried to over throw the president at the time (Makarios)and make it part of Greece(also known as ENOSIS). Turkey, seeing that their fellow Turkish Cypriots were being attacked, sent in 200,000 troops to protect their people. but Turkey then siezed the northern part of Cyprus and established their own, illegal government which only Turkey acknowledges. Turkey still occupies the island militarily to this day. i hope that answers your question, as i believe this explanition to be unbias. i may not have gotten everything, but that should help you a little.



Sorry but this part is wrong. No Turkish Cypriots were attacked in 1974 before the invasion. So Turkey did not invade because it saw TCs being attacked!


Turkey intervened to restore the constitutional order violated by one of the guarantors Greece and it's extensions in Cyprus.

When Turkey arrived Cyprus to restore the constitutional order, not only the coupists and major part of NG under command of Sampson but all GCs who were able to combat(CIA report mentions around 50.000 armed GCs and Greeks) engaged a counter offensive against Turkish Peace Forces. Thus, both sides suffered great number of human losses.

During the combat, vast majority of TCs who were living in Souther part of Cyprus fled to Northern part and GCs who were living in Northern part of Cyprus fled to Souther part of Cyprus in order to save their lives.

Even after the 2nd phase of Turkish intervention, the pro-coupist, irregulars of EOKA-B were still threatening the newly installed president of Cyprus, ex-president-Makarios and Turkey with waging a guerilla warfare.

Folowing the events of 1974, talks initiated in Vienna, Geneva etc regarding the restoration of the constitution but since then no mutually agreed solution has been found.


because their island was under attack by invading forces.


Their island was not under attack by Turkish peace Forces, their government was under control of an illegal administration. First the pro-coup armed forces fired towards heading Turkish peace forces. Don't forget that how much this islands belongs to GCs as much it belongs to TCs.


okay not to sound biast or anything, but how can you honestly say that the island belongs to TCs as much as GCs? what gives TCs ANY ownership of the island?


Title Deeds.


which arent rightfully theirs, they have done nothing to deserve those deeds

You must have some Israeli blood in you old boy. They don't believe in title deeds either, they go by their 5000 year old tora. Is that what it says in your scriptures too? Greek Orthodox bloody church should be banned from Cyprus.


you know you can burn in hell YFred, at least we have some kind of religious background, unlike your Church turned Mosques in the north of which were STOLEN from us pious Greek Orthodox followers. dont even try to insult my God. if anything youre "Mosques" should be banned from Cyprus

Oh and im actually Pro-Palestinian, so fuck you too re malaka
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