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[insan]

Why then does the government in Skope continue to use the name Macedonia despite Greek objections, or why does Mexico retain it's official title of "The United States?". Names are shared and used a lot around the world, and Cyprus is no execption, Oracle.

I don't know about Mexico, but the people of FYROM wish to be identified with the historical Macedonia and its cultural heritage.

Why would Turkey continue to use a name in existence long before they came to Asia Minor (they renamed that area) and with whose original history they do NOT identify.

They had no qualms renaming the villages. Why stop there?

The Turks are not respectors of the traditions of other people. So, why do they do us the "honour" of keeping our traditional, historical name?

There must be an underlying reason they hang on to the name Cyprus .... of some benefit to Turkey!

U complain abt why do Turks hang on the name Cyprus... well.. now u must propose some names to Turks maybe they accept one of ur proposed new names and begin using it insted of Cyprus.

Never say never... maybe one of ur dreams regarding Turks becomes true.

I am not complaining that Turks are hanging on to the name Cyprus ... I question their motives for so doing!

1. Is it that they see the famous, trusted, loved name of Cyprus as just a corporate logo?

2. Do they gain prestige by holding on to the "brand-name" Cyprus?

Or ....

3. Is it simply that dropping the name Cyprus from any of their "constructs" will be one step too many, which will bring the EU ripping into Turkey once and for all time!

Is Turkey too chicken to drop the only recognised name?

Oracle, believe it or not, Turks didn't Turkeyfy the names with the motives based on their nationalistic feelings and thoughts.

Since the Ottoman times, we have pronounced and written some names slightly different and some other names significantly different than how GCs pronounced and written.

Even, almost every village in Cyprus had/has one Greek name(or original name) and one Turkish name.

[The Cypriot]

1. Is it that they see the famous, trusted, loved name of Cyprus as just a corporate logo?

2. Do they gain prestige by holding on to the "brand-name" Cyprus?

If they understood about logos and branding do you think they'd have created this unimaginative tissue after a nose bleed?

[Oracle]

Oracle, believe it or not, Turks didn't Turkeyfy the names with the motives based on their nationalistic feelings and thoughts.

Insan your irrational dismissal is suggestive of the utmost Nationalistic feelings and motives on your part!

Since the Ottoman times, we have pronounced and written some names slightly different and some other names significantly different than how GCs pronounced and written.

I'm glad you brought up the Ottomans, because it is since then that you have been systematically depriving others of their historical lands and names and languages!

Even, almost every village in Cyprus had/has one Greek name(or original name) and one Turkish name.

How many still officially retain their Greek/original names?

And why is Turkey still holding on to the (internationally recognised) name of Cyprus?

I still think it's because they know their hold is only tentative and dropping the name (Cyprus/Kibris) will bring down the wrath of the nations they fear, for such an abomination.

It follows therefore, Turkey knows it has done wrong ....

[insan]

Oracle, believe it or not, Turks didn't Turkeyfy the names with the motives based on their nationalistic feelings and thoughts.

Insan your irrational dismissal is suggestive of the utmost Nationalistic feelings and motives on your part!

Since the Ottoman times, we have pronounced and written some names slightly different and some other names significantly different than how GCs pronounced and written.

I'm glad you brought up the Ottomans, because it is since then that you have been systematically depriving others of their historical lands and names and languages!

Even, almost every village in Cyprus had/has one Greek name(or original name) and one Turkish name.

How many still officially retain their Greek/original names?

And why is Turkey still holding on to the (internationally recognised) name of Cyprus?

I still think it's because they know their hold is only tentative and dropping the name (Cyprus/Kibris) will bring down the wrath of the nations they fear, for such an abomination.

It follows therefore, Turkey knows it has done wrong ....

U r making total galimatias Oracle. U r too boring lately.. u r too paranoiac lately .. I'm leaving this thread to u and to all who r interested in...

[denizaksulu]

WTF!!! WHo invents these threads? Mind boggles. We will leave it to O, to come up with her own answers. That will be a good laugh

[Oracle]

Turkey won't drop the name Cyprus because it cannot drop the name Cyprus!

Sure it can bully us few thousand GCs by changing our village names.

But it cannot touch the name Cyprus because of its international and historical significance (Shakespearean scholars, breath easy ).

What's more, by referring to "Turks of" ... Cyprus, it recognises its significance and sovereignty ...

[The Cypriot]

What's more, by referring to "Turks of" ... Cyprus, it recognises its significance and sovereignty ...

You mean, like the Turks of Germany or Turks of Holland. Notice they don't call them the Turks of the TRNC, or the Turks of northern Cyprus. But the Turks of the single entity of Cyprus!

[denizaksulu]

Turkey won't drop the name Cyprus because it cannot drop the name Cyprus!

Sure it can bully us few thousand GCs by changing our village names.

But it cannot touch the name Cyprus because of its international and historical significance (Shakespearean scholars, breath easy ).

What's more, by referring to "Turks of" ... Cyprus, it recognises its significance and sovereignty ...

So you do know the answer!!! Why bother asking?

[Oracle]

Turkey won't drop the name Cyprus because it cannot drop the name Cyprus!

Sure it can bully us few thousand GCs by changing our village names.

But it cannot touch the name Cyprus because of its international and historical significance (Shakespearean scholars, breath easy ).

What's more, by referring to "Turks of" ... Cyprus, it recognises its significance and sovereignty ...

So you do know the answer!!! Why bother asking?

I wanted to see what anyone else thought, to see if I was wrong. And since you and insan are clueless and gave up without coming up with an answer, you said:

We will leave it to O, to come up with her own answers.

I took that as your submission to ignorance, so I gave you the answer ... I hope you and insan have learnt something ... Turkey does recognise Cyprus' sovereignty; it knows the Turks do not belong here, and it will not make any drastic changes because it is all transient and it will soon have to take its "Turks out of Cyprus"!

[Nikitas]

Oracle, it is simple: the use of the name Cyprus in a title justifies future claims to the whole island.

If anoyne thinks that the current situation or anything that might result from the talks will make these claims go away is a fool. That is the reason for mass naturalisations and insistence on guarantees and permanent armed presence.