Tim Drayton wrote:hasanaggi wrote:Kikapu
just so that ive got this right.
i dont want to re-read eight pages of posts
are you suggesting that the mother and her children were not murdered in the bath?
The cold-blooded murder of children is the most heinous act that I can imagine, and it is difficult for those who question the precise circumstances of this event because it appears as though they are trying in some way to condone or excuse this act of barbarism.
However, in a purely objective spirit and attempt to get at the truth, I would like to ask the following question, based on these two premises:
1- Porcelain shatters when hit by a bullet (see the picture I posted on page 6 of this thread).
2- I have visited the Museum of Barbarism in Kumsal and as far as I can see from peering at the buthtub through the glass, it is made of porcelain.
If the children were shot in the bathtub, why is the porcelain intact?
Personally, I also find the idea of picking up dead children and moving them into a bathtub to make a nice propaganda photograph to be quite sick. Obviously in a totally different league from the act of murdering children, but sick nevertheless.
If the crime scene still exists then modern forensics can be used to get some facts.
from "Genocide files" by Harry scott Gibbons
That evening, Hasan Yusuf Gudum, an elderly Turkish Landlord was visiting one of his clients in Kumsal.With him was his wife, Ferideh, his neighbour Mrs. Ayshe Mora with her one-year-old daughter, Ishin, and her married sister, Novber.
They were paying a call on the family of Major Nihat Ilhan, the Chief medical officer with the mainland Turkish army contingent. The major was on duty that "night with his unit. His wife, Muruvvet, was with their three children, Murat, Kutsi and Hakan, aged seven Four and six months. The nine were having supper in the dining room when one of the Greek private armies, augmented by workers from the Severis flour Mill whom had - willingly or under coercion - joined their ranks, Crossed the dry Pedieos riverbed. The conversation around the dining table cut off abruptly when Bullets began to spatter the outside walls, sounding like heavy rain.
The group rose hurriedly, the women dragging the children and Gudum ushered them to the back part of the house.They all, four women", four children and Bathroom and closed the door. The landlord's wife suddenly Changed her mind, left the Bathroom and went into the separate toilet where she locked herself.
Mrs. Ilhan, the major's wife, stepped into the bath, and holding Her baby stood facing the door, her other two children clinging onto her legs.
The two other Woman and Cudum crawled terrified into the Corners beside the door. Mrs. Ayshe Mora held her baby close. There was a crash as the front door burst open and a continuous roar as machine-gun bullets Spewed through the house. Footsteps came to the locked bathroom, an unknown hand Impatiently rattled the knob, and a voice called in Greek, ` "How would you like Enosis" Then a hail of bullets tore through the wood and Mrs. llhall and Her children, caught directly in its path, were lifted off their feet and Dumped on to the bottom of the bath. The killers smashed the door lock and jumped inside. One of The major's children moaned and was scolded into permanent Silence by a short peremptory burst. Then the raiders saw the others Huddled on the floor. They played their guns on them like impatient Children forced to water the garden flowers. The three Turks were All wounded some seriously. A bullet struck the foot of the baby Ishin. The locked door of the toilet drew the gunmen's attention to The landlord's wife. The door was beaten in by machine-gun butts And the woman was dragged out whimpering. A pistol was placed To her head, one shot was fired, and she slumped to the floor, dead. The killers whooping and jeering, charged through the house, Machine-gunning cupboards, smashing furniture, slipping and Sliding on the dark red blood that crept out of the bathroom. lshin Mora, the baby, survived, and after several operations her Foot was saved. Today, aged 35, lshin is married with a young son. She owns the supermarket Can (pronounced Jan) Kan on Shakespeare Avenue in Nicosia. Her limp reminds her of the Atrocity she was too young to understand.
http://www.btinternet.com/~cy74/eye1.htm
If "a hail of bullets tore through the wood" does that mean the gunmen could not see who were the occupants of the bathroom ?
Can it be proven that these children were deliberately targeted ?
Or alternatively, can it be proven that there is no other plausible explanation except cold-blooded murder ?
... not always readily available to hand, in the 60s, as they are now! How do you know they were 
