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[halil]

EROGLU SAID AN OFFICIAL FROM THE FOREIGN MINISTRY WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE NEGOTIATING TEAM

TRNC Prime Minister Dervis Eroglu has said that an official from the Foreign Ministry representing his government will be included in the negotiating team accompanying President Mehmet Ali Talat in the second round of the talks, which are to be resumed on the 3rd of September.

But, the Premier stopped short to give any names.

Speaking on BRT’s first channel last night, Mr Eroglu said he reached agreement with President Talat on the inclusion of a representative of the
government into the negotiating team.

Explaining his concerns about the peace process, he said the government does not want to face a surprise plan, like the Annan Plan which was prepared by the United Nations.

Mr Eroglu said such plans which have a content pleasing the Greek
Cypriot Leader Dimitris Christofias would not be beneficial for the Cyprus Turkish People, adding that he would explain his concerns on the issue to President Talat.

Calling unacceptable the `view of the international community` that the Cyprus Turkish people is in desperate need of a solution, he said `an agreement in favour of us will not emerge as long as this view maintained`.

On alternatives to a solution, he said `first of all, we should claim our state. We should strike an agreement by taking the existence of two separate states into consideration` he added.

The first round of the talks was completed on the 6th of August but Mr Eroglu said agreement was not reached on any issues, except on the issue of judiciary, in the first round.

`Because of this, the secound round will be very difficult`, he noted.

The Prime Minister said that the issues of property, territory and guarantees were very difficult problems to be solved, stressing that a bi-zonal order should not be diluted.

`You cannot displace our people after 34 years. Such a move will create uneasiness. We want a formula which will not force the people to leave their places`, he said, adding that he did not believe that it would be possible for the two sides to reach an agreement on the issue of guarantees.

He stated that federations could only be established between two equal partners but said that the two states in Cyprus were not equals in the aspects of economy and population.

`This inequality should be removed if an agreement is to be reached` he noted, warning that a settlement to be found in the current circumstances could lead to the repetition of the bitter events of 1963.

Asked whether he would stand as a candidate in next year’s Presiential elections, Mr Eroglu said that his UBP party hasn’t discussed the issue yet but added that the party would name its own candidate.

[denizaksulu]

EROGLU SAID AN OFFICIAL FROM THE FOREIGN MINISTRY WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE NEGOTIATING TEAM

TRNC Prime Minister Dervis Eroglu has said that an official from the Foreign Ministry representing his government will be included in the negotiating team accompanying President Mehmet Ali Talat in the second round of the talks, which are to be resumed on the 3rd of September.

But, the Premier stopped short to give any names.

Speaking on BRT’s first channel last night, Mr Eroglu said he reached agreement with President Talat on the inclusion of a representative of the
government into the negotiating team.

Explaining his concerns about the peace process, he said the government does not want to face a surprise plan, like the Annan Plan which was prepared by the United Nations.

Mr Eroglu said such plans which have a content pleasing the Greek
Cypriot Leader Dimitris Christofias would not be beneficial for the Cyprus Turkish People, adding that he would explain his concerns on the issue to President Talat.

Calling unacceptable the `view of the international community` that the Cyprus Turkish people is in desperate need of a solution, he said `an agreement in favour of us will not emerge as long as this view maintained`.

On alternatives to a solution, he said `first of all, we should claim our state. We should strike an agreement by taking the existence of two separate states into consideration` he added.

The first round of the talks was completed on the 6th of August but Mr Eroglu said agreement was not reached on any issues, except on the issue of judiciary, in the first round.

`Because of this, the secound round will be very difficult`, he noted.

The Prime Minister said that the issues of property, territory and guarantees were very difficult problems to be solved, stressing that a bi-zonal order should not be diluted.

`You cannot displace our people after 34 years. Such a move will create uneasiness. We want a formula which will not force the people to leave their places`, he said, adding that he did not believe that it would be possible for the two sides to reach an agreement on the issue of guarantees.

He stated that federations could only be established between two equal partners but said that the two states in Cyprus were not equals in the aspects of economy and population.

`This inequality should be removed if an agreement is to be reached` he noted, warning that a settlement to be found in the current circumstances could lead to the repetition of the bitter events of 1963.

Asked whether he would stand as a candidate in next year’s Presiential elections, Mr Eroglu said that his UBP party hasn’t discussed the issue yet but added that the party would name its own candidate.

Bloody idiot. How do these people become politicians and get elected. How can anyone with any intelligence say this: `You cannot displace our people after 34 years'. HOW LONG HAVE THE GREEK CYPRIOTS LIVED IN CYPRUS? Please dont tell me. NEVER?

[denizaksulu]

Thanks Halil for that post. I have just decided my future.

[Simon]

You took the words right out of my mouth deniz.

This "Prime Minister" is clearly a complete and utter idiot.

If one of "his men" is going to take part in the negotiations, what chance do we stand of a solution?

Another part I noticed was:

Mr Eroglu said such plans which have a content pleasing the Greek
Cypriot Leader Dimitris Christofias would not be beneficial for the Cyprus Turkish People

Basically, what he appears to be saying here is that any content which the Greek Cypriot side find pleasing is automatically wrong for TCs? So what is his idea of compromise to find a solution? It sounds like he will only accept a Plan that the GCs dislike in pretty much every way.

And here is another part that stinks:

He stated that federations could only be established between two equal partners but said that the two states in Cyprus were not equals in the aspects of economy and population.

`This inequality should be removed if an agreement is to be reached

What is he suggesting? More settlers until the Turks in the north number about the same as the GCs, so that they can keep as much of Cyprus and GC properties as possible?

[halil]

EROGLU SAID AN OFFICIAL FROM THE FOREIGN MINISTRY WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE NEGOTIATING TEAM

TRNC Prime Minister Dervis Eroglu has said that an official from the Foreign Ministry representing his government will be included in the negotiating team accompanying President Mehmet Ali Talat in the second round of the talks, which are to be resumed on the 3rd of September.

But, the Premier stopped short to give any names.

Speaking on BRT’s first channel last night, Mr Eroglu said he reached agreement with President Talat on the inclusion of a representative of the
government into the negotiating team.

Explaining his concerns about the peace process, he said the government does not want to face a surprise plan, like the Annan Plan which was prepared by the United Nations.

Mr Eroglu said such plans which have a content pleasing the Greek
Cypriot Leader Dimitris Christofias would not be beneficial for the Cyprus Turkish People, adding that he would explain his concerns on the issue to President Talat.

Calling unacceptable the `view of the international community` that the Cyprus Turkish people is in desperate need of a solution, he said `an agreement in favour of us will not emerge as long as this view maintained`.

On alternatives to a solution, he said `first of all, we should claim our state. We should strike an agreement by taking the existence of two separate states into consideration` he added.

The first round of the talks was completed on the 6th of August but Mr Eroglu said agreement was not reached on any issues, except on the issue of judiciary, in the first round.

`Because of this, the secound round will be very difficult`, he noted.

The Prime Minister said that the issues of property, territory and guarantees were very difficult problems to be solved, stressing that a bi-zonal order should not be diluted.

`You cannot displace our people after 34 years. Such a move will create uneasiness. We want a formula which will not force the people to leave their places`, he said, adding that he did not believe that it would be possible for the two sides to reach an agreement on the issue of guarantees.

He stated that federations could only be established between two equal partners but said that the two states in Cyprus were not equals in the aspects of economy and population.

`This inequality should be removed if an agreement is to be reached` he noted, warning that a settlement to be found in the current circumstances could lead to the repetition of the bitter events of 1963.

Asked whether he would stand as a candidate in next year’s Presiential elections, Mr Eroglu said that his UBP party hasn’t discussed the issue yet but added that the party would name its own candidate.

Bloody idiot. How do these people become politicians and get elected. How can anyone with any intelligence say this: `You cannot displace our people after 34 years'. HOW LONG HAVE THE GREEK CYPRIOTS LIVED IN CYPRUS? Please dont tell me. NEVER?

Deniz ,
in here he is trying to say .... after the solution with Bi-zonal , Bi-communal solution in Cyprus .... some of the Turkish Cypriots have to replace seconed time from where they lives now and it will be difficult for them he says .... but do not forget our people accepted to move or displace seconed or third times from where they were living by saying yes to Annan plan.

He doesn't says that GC's did not live in Cyprus ......

Yes Deniz he is a politician ... he is elected again because CTP did not achived what was promised the people at past .
They said YES to unification plan they waited for a enough time from EU ,UN and rest of the world some improvement for Cyprus situation ...nothing change ..... If the world listens all the time one side in the international organisations and ignore the other side what do u accept from our people .....

Like how they talks as a communities at talks they should also talk at international organisations as equal chances ... to explain their positiones than international organisationes will give their decisions not just listening one side views ..... as long as they don't understant it Deniz .... there vwill be many 34 years to go yet .

[denizaksulu]

You took the words right out of my mouth deniz.

This "Prime Minister" is clearly a complete and utter idiot.

If one of "his men" is going to take part in the negotiations, what chance do we stand of a solution?

Another part I noticed was:

Mr Eroglu said such plans which have a content pleasing the Greek
Cypriot Leader Dimitris Christofias would not be beneficial for the Cyprus Turkish People

Basically, what he appears to be saying here is that any content which the Greek Cypriot side find pleasing is automatically wrong for TCs? So what is his idea of compromise to find a solution? It sounds like he will only accept a Plan that the GCs dislike in pretty much every way.

And here is another part that stinks:

He stated that federations could only be established between two equal partners but said that the two states in Cyprus were not equals in the aspects of economy and population.

`This inequality should be removed if an agreement is to be reached

What is he suggesting? More settlers until the Turks in the north number about the same as the GCs, so that they can keep as much of Cyprus and GC properties as possible?

Eroglu is one Greek Cyp hater. I had heard immediately after 1974, he would come to London and dish out GC houses to friends and anyone who bought him a meal. What he does is cover his arse. He has a lot to answer for.

[insan]

EROGLU SAID AN OFFICIAL FROM THE FOREIGN MINISTRY WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE NEGOTIATING TEAM

TRNC Prime Minister Dervis Eroglu has said that an official from the Foreign Ministry representing his government will be included in the negotiating team accompanying President Mehmet Ali Talat in the second round of the talks, which are to be resumed on the 3rd of September.

But, the Premier stopped short to give any names.

Speaking on BRT’s first channel last night, Mr Eroglu said he reached agreement with President Talat on the inclusion of a representative of the
government into the negotiating team.

Explaining his concerns about the peace process, he said the government does not want to face a surprise plan, like the Annan Plan which was prepared by the United Nations.

Mr Eroglu said such plans which have a content pleasing the Greek
Cypriot Leader Dimitris Christofias would not be beneficial for the Cyprus Turkish People, adding that he would explain his concerns on the issue to President Talat.

Calling unacceptable the `view of the international community` that the Cyprus Turkish people is in desperate need of a solution, he said `an agreement in favour of us will not emerge as long as this view maintained`.

On alternatives to a solution, he said `first of all, we should claim our state. We should strike an agreement by taking the existence of two separate states into consideration` he added.

The first round of the talks was completed on the 6th of August but Mr Eroglu said agreement was not reached on any issues, except on the issue of judiciary, in the first round.

`Because of this, the secound round will be very difficult`, he noted.

The Prime Minister said that the issues of property, territory and guarantees were very difficult problems to be solved, stressing that a bi-zonal order should not be diluted.

`You cannot displace our people after 34 years. Such a move will create uneasiness. We want a formula which will not force the people to leave their places`, he said, adding that he did not believe that it would be possible for the two sides to reach an agreement on the issue of guarantees.

He stated that federations could only be established between two equal partners but said that the two states in Cyprus were not equals in the aspects of economy and population.

`This inequality should be removed if an agreement is to be reached` he noted, warning that a settlement to be found in the current circumstances could lead to the repetition of the bitter events of 1963.

Asked whether he would stand as a candidate in next year’s Presiential elections, Mr Eroglu said that his UBP party hasn’t discussed the issue yet but added that the party would name its own candidate.

Bloody idiot. How do these people become politicians and get elected. How can anyone with any intelligence say this: `You cannot displace our people after 34 years'. HOW LONG HAVE THE GREEK CYPRIOTS LIVED IN CYPRUS? Please dont tell me. NEVER?

Eroglu is right but his statement is incomplete that leads misunderstandings even some clever man like Deniz. After 35 years lasted defacto situation, all people of TRNC cannot forcibly displaced. Some percent of TRNC population will be displaced but not all. If all refugees return then what's the meaning of negotiating on the basis of BBF?

[denizaksulu]

EROGLU SAID AN OFFICIAL FROM THE FOREIGN MINISTRY WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE NEGOTIATING TEAM

TRNC Prime Minister Dervis Eroglu has said that an official from the Foreign Ministry representing his government will be included in the negotiating team accompanying President Mehmet Ali Talat in the second round of the talks, which are to be resumed on the 3rd of September.

But, the Premier stopped short to give any names.

Speaking on BRT’s first channel last night, Mr Eroglu said he reached agreement with President Talat on the inclusion of a representative of the
government into the negotiating team.

Explaining his concerns about the peace process, he said the government does not want to face a surprise plan, like the Annan Plan which was prepared by the United Nations.

Mr Eroglu said such plans which have a content pleasing the Greek
Cypriot Leader Dimitris Christofias would not be beneficial for the Cyprus Turkish People, adding that he would explain his concerns on the issue to President Talat.

Calling unacceptable the `view of the international community` that the Cyprus Turkish people is in desperate need of a solution, he said `an agreement in favour of us will not emerge as long as this view maintained`.

On alternatives to a solution, he said `first of all, we should claim our state. We should strike an agreement by taking the existence of two separate states into consideration` he added.

The first round of the talks was completed on the 6th of August but Mr Eroglu said agreement was not reached on any issues, except on the issue of judiciary, in the first round.

`Because of this, the secound round will be very difficult`, he noted.

The Prime Minister said that the issues of property, territory and guarantees were very difficult problems to be solved, stressing that a bi-zonal order should not be diluted.

`You cannot displace our people after 34 years. Such a move will create uneasiness. We want a formula which will not force the people to leave their places`, he said, adding that he did not believe that it would be possible for the two sides to reach an agreement on the issue of guarantees.

He stated that federations could only be established between two equal partners but said that the two states in Cyprus were not equals in the aspects of economy and population.

`This inequality should be removed if an agreement is to be reached` he noted, warning that a settlement to be found in the current circumstances could lead to the repetition of the bitter events of 1963.

Asked whether he would stand as a candidate in next year’s Presiential elections, Mr Eroglu said that his UBP party hasn’t discussed the issue yet but added that the party would name its own candidate.

Bloody idiot. How do these people become politicians and get elected. How can anyone with any intelligence say this: `You cannot displace our people after 34 years'. HOW LONG HAVE THE GREEK CYPRIOTS LIVED IN CYPRUS? Please dont tell me. NEVER?

Deniz ,
in here he is trying to say .... after the solution with Bi-zonal , Bi-communal solution in Cyprus .... some of the Turkish Cypriots have to replace seconed time from where they lives now and it will be difficult for them he says .... but do not forget our people accepted to move or displace seconed or third times from where they were living by saying yes to Annan plan.

He doesn't says that GC's did not live in Cyprus ......

Yes Deniz he is a politician ... he is elected again because CTP did not achived what was promised the people at past .
They said YES to unification plan they waited for a enough time from EU ,UN and rest of the world some improvement for Cyprus situation ...nothing change ..... If the world listens all the time one side in the international organisations and ignore the other side what do u accept from our people .....

Like how they talks as a communities at talks they should also talk at international organisations as equal chances ... to explain their positiones than international organisationes will give their decisions not just listening one side views ..... as long as they don't understant it Deniz .... there vwill be many 34 years to go yet .

He could have put it differently. He should know the whole world will read the script.

I am glad you did not take it personally. I am annoyed at the calibre of these so called politicians.

[insan]

EROGLU SAID AN OFFICIAL FROM THE FOREIGN MINISTRY WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE NEGOTIATING TEAM

TRNC Prime Minister Dervis Eroglu has said that an official from the Foreign Ministry representing his government will be included in the negotiating team accompanying President Mehmet Ali Talat in the second round of the talks, which are to be resumed on the 3rd of September.

But, the Premier stopped short to give any names.

Speaking on BRT’s first channel last night, Mr Eroglu said he reached agreement with President Talat on the inclusion of a representative of the
government into the negotiating team.

Explaining his concerns about the peace process, he said the government does not want to face a surprise plan, like the Annan Plan which was prepared by the United Nations.

Mr Eroglu said such plans which have a content pleasing the Greek
Cypriot Leader Dimitris Christofias would not be beneficial for the Cyprus Turkish People, adding that he would explain his concerns on the issue to President Talat.

Calling unacceptable the `view of the international community` that the Cyprus Turkish people is in desperate need of a solution, he said `an agreement in favour of us will not emerge as long as this view maintained`.

On alternatives to a solution, he said `first of all, we should claim our state. We should strike an agreement by taking the existence of two separate states into consideration` he added.

The first round of the talks was completed on the 6th of August but Mr Eroglu said agreement was not reached on any issues, except on the issue of judiciary, in the first round.

`Because of this, the secound round will be very difficult`, he noted.

The Prime Minister said that the issues of property, territory and guarantees were very difficult problems to be solved, stressing that a bi-zonal order should not be diluted.

`You cannot displace our people after 34 years. Such a move will create uneasiness. We want a formula which will not force the people to leave their places`, he said, adding that he did not believe that it would be possible for the two sides to reach an agreement on the issue of guarantees.

He stated that federations could only be established between two equal partners but said that the two states in Cyprus were not equals in the aspects of economy and population.

`This inequality should be removed if an agreement is to be reached` he noted, warning that a settlement to be found in the current circumstances could lead to the repetition of the bitter events of 1963.

Asked whether he would stand as a candidate in next year’s Presiential elections, Mr Eroglu said that his UBP party hasn’t discussed the issue yet but added that the party would name its own candidate.

Bloody idiot. How do these people become politicians and get elected. How can anyone with any intelligence say this: `You cannot displace our people after 34 years'. HOW LONG HAVE THE GREEK CYPRIOTS LIVED IN CYPRUS? Please dont tell me. NEVER?

Deniz ,
in here he is trying to say .... after the solution with Bi-zonal , Bi-communal solution in Cyprus .... some of the Turkish Cypriots have to replace seconed time from where they lives now and it will be difficult for them he says .... but do not forget our people accepted to move or displace seconed or third times from where they were living by saying yes to Annan plan.

He doesn't says that GC's did not live in Cyprus ......

Yes Deniz he is a politician ... he is elected again because CTP did not achived what was promised the people at past .
They said YES to unification plan they waited for a enough time from EU ,UN and rest of the world some improvement for Cyprus situation ...nothing change ..... If the world listens all the time one side in the international organisations and ignore the other side what do u accept from our people .....

Like how they talks as a communities at talks they should also talk at international organisations as equal chances ... to explain their positiones than international organisationes will give their decisions not just listening one side views ..... as long as they don't understant it Deniz .... there vwill be many 34 years to go yet .

He could have put it differently. He should know the whole world will read the script.

I am glad you did not take it personally. I am annoyed at the calibre of these so called politicians.

Benim da galibrasyonum bozukdur bu poletikacılarınan. Bir tane adam gibi adam yok içlerinde Talat da dahil.

[Viewpoint]

Come on guys we have to stand strong and our ground here. We are equal partners not a minority the GCs can crush.