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[insan]

"The problem is not at the federal level. It is at the national level. With their wealth, the GC can in the future take control of the top level and do as they wish. That is the problem."

And no doubt you have some scheme in mind to set up a veto for that eventuality too. The old "we are a special case" scenario.

How on earth will money alter an arrangement that includes a constitution! Are you serious here or are you just spouting words?

The old saying goes, will it be worth the paper it's written on, if the other side is hell bent on abusing it? A little bit like the British constitution.

Yeah... as long as we asslick the GC administration such as accepting EOKA as heroes and TMT the terrorist traitors...

[wyoming cowboy]

So could the British or Irish or Italians or the Germans come in one day and buy out half of cyprus, and even the Russians..and what does that mean YFred, your people will self impose themselves in enclaves and demand Turkey invade to kick the europeans out of cyprus, you make no sense. IN the unoccuppied areas of Cyprus the British and Russians are buying everything left and right i hear no Gc complaining while they are headed to the bank...The Tc have enough property in the
Republic to seriously compete with GC in wealth..Or do you think every Gc in the REpublic is a multimillionaire today...You still havent given me a valid reason against a Federal System in Cyprus

How do you think the way of life will change in a Turk constituent state if there is a federal republic, have you ever lived a federal country, ? Do you think the Gc's will have the power to come over and set your laws and regulations for you? what is the biggest problem you have with a federal state?...

Well we get it, but soon you will have to make a choice trust the laws and regulations of the Republic of Cyprus and the European Union, or go with Turkey....your choice

Next to a Greek Cypriot there is such an ethnic person as a “Turkish Cypriot”, but next to a Turk there are only Turks, so don’t come and tell me you’re in danger from the GCs and have nothing to worry about from Turkey, VP.

You still dont get it do you, we are not afraid of Turks as that we are in origin its the Gcs we do not trust nor do we want to be a minority to. Now do you get it?

You vote no after these negotiations and We can figure out the rest for ourselves old boy.

The problem is not at the federal level. It is at the national level. With their wealth, the GC can in the future take control of the top level and do as they wish. That is the problem.

[wyoming cowboy]

In your state you will have your heroes and statues of Ataturk in our state will have our heroes, hopefully one day the offspring of both states will use their heroes' statues to hang their underwear on...Here in the USA there was a civil war, the NOrth against the South, to this day their respective flags of the south are flown, Streets and Avenues are named after Confederate leaders, such as Robert E.Lee his home is a tourist attraction...."The Dixie" is sung before each baseball game....where do you see oppression....but if you ask them they will say its our heritage and culture, If you want to display your flags in your state then do it big deal.......what other nonsensical baloney do you want to throw at the Federalist........

"The problem is not at the federal level. It is at the national level. With their wealth, the GC can in the future take control of the top level and do as they wish. That is the problem."

And no doubt you have some scheme in mind to set up a veto for that eventuality too. The old "we are a special case" scenario.

How on earth will money alter an arrangement that includes a constitution! Are you serious here or are you just spouting words?

The old saying goes, will it be worth the paper it's written on, if the other side is hell bent on abusing it? A little bit like the British constitution.

Yeah... as long as we asslick the GC administration such as accepting EOKA as heroes and TMT the terrorist traitors...

[wyoming cowboy]

With their wealth the gc can take over the top level and do as they wish...........thats what you said, it makes no sense man,what top level.....your state will have its own top level, do you mean buying out politiicians with money to do what we wish....A turk could do that to a greek politician in the GC constituent state...

How do you think the way of life will change in a Turk constituent state if there is a federal republic, have you ever lived a federal country, ? Do you think the Gc's will have the power to come over and set your laws and regulations for you? what is the biggest problem you have with a federal state?...

Well we get it, but soon you will have to make a choice trust the laws and regulations of the Republic of Cyprus and the European Union, or go with Turkey....your choice

Next to a Greek Cypriot there is such an ethnic person as a “Turkish Cypriot”, but next to a Turk there are only Turks, so don’t come and tell me you’re in danger from the GCs and have nothing to worry about from Turkey, VP.

You still dont get it do you, we are not afraid of Turks as that we are in origin its the Gcs we do not trust nor do we want to be a minority to. Now do you get it?

You vote no after these negotiations and We can figure out the rest for ourselves old boy.

The problem is not at the federal level. It is at the national level. With their wealth, the GC can in the future take control of the top level and do as they wish. That is the problem.

[wyoming cowboy]

In the usa an individual state such as Georgia can sign trade agreements with a foreign nation, they have their own constitution, they have their own redneck language and customs, they smoke weed and drink lots of budweiser...they drive chevys and have sex with their sisters...thats the culture of Georgia....they also grow a lot of peaches, thats why ists called the peach state...In 50 years of a federal system in cyprus the north will have its own individual characteristic but be part of the Republic of Cyprus, the turk state will be known as the Las Vegas of the Meditteranean with great resorts, the South will be known for its beaches, cabarets and nude sunbathing,and beautiful foreign sunbathers south Cyprus will also be known as the peach state....hehahahahhahahahh

[DT.]

"The problem is not at the federal level. It is at the national level. With their wealth, the GC can in the future take control of the top level and do as they wish. That is the problem."

And no doubt you have some scheme in mind to set up a veto for that eventuality too. The old "we are a special case" scenario.

How on earth will money alter an arrangement that includes a constitution! Are you serious here or are you just spouting words?

The old saying goes, will it be worth the paper it's written on, if the other side is hell bent on abusing it? A little bit like the British constitution.

the British do not have a constitution.

[wyoming cowboy]

Can our Turk cyp friends answer the question "what is the problem with having a federal system"?

[Viewpoint]

Can our Turk cyp friends answer the question "what is the problem with having a federal system"?

Should that question be directed at GCs? we Tcs support a BBF with political equality of the 2 states.

[insan]

Can our Turk cyp friends answer the question "what is the problem with having a federal system"?

There's nothing wrong with it as long as TCs r politically equal partners on community basis. If it will be a GC ruled so-called federation, then no.

[halil]

TRNC PRESIDENT TALAT SAID THE POSITION TO BE ADOPTED IN THE SECOND ROUND IS BEING DETERMINED

President of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus Mehmet Ali Talat has said the position to be adopted by the Turkish Side in the second round of the negotiation process is being determined.

The President said discussions would be held with Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoğlu who is to arrive in the Republic on Monday, on how to pursue the talks.

He stated that although being objected by the Greek Cypriot Side, a timetable and the involvement of the international community is essential for an agreement to be reached.

Speaking during a visit to the Taskent village, Mr Talat explained that important progress was made on the issues of `governance and power sharing`, `Economy` and `EU matters` but added that there was a serious bottleneck on the issue of `property`.

“The essence of the Cyprus problem is governance and power sharing. Intercommunal clashes started as a result of this” he said, adding that issues on which there is disagreement would be discussed in the second round of the talks.

The President noted that although being objected by the Greek Cypriot Side, a timetable and the involvement of the international community is a sine qua non for a settlement.

“Is it possible for us to reach agreement on all issues? Will we be able to agree on all details? I think this is impossible. The United Nations or a clever man should bring proposals to us”, he said.

The President noted that all proposals brought by the Turkish Side were within the UN parameters while those of the Greek Cypriot Side weren’t.

During the visit, the President also informed the villages on the work being carried out by the Committee on Missing Persons.

Reminding that the villagers of Taşkent were subjected to a brutal massacre in 1974, Mr Talat said excavation work to be carried out at a second gravesite where martyrs of Taşkent are believed to be buried, would be followed closely.

He also underlined the need not to politicize the issue of missing persons which is a humanitarian problem.