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[wyoming cowboy]

How do you think the way of life will change in a Turk constituent state if there is a federal republic, have you ever lived a federal country, ? Do you think the Gc's will have the power to come over and set your laws and regulations for you? what is the biggest problem you have with a federal state?...

Well we get it, but soon you will have to make a choice trust the laws and regulations of the Republic of Cyprus and the European Union, or go with Turkey....your choice

Next to a Greek Cypriot there is such an ethnic person as a “Turkish Cypriot”, but next to a Turk there are only Turks, so don’t come and tell me you’re in danger from the GCs and have nothing to worry about from Turkey, VP.

You still dont get it do you, we are not afraid of Turks as that we are in origin its the Gcs we do not trust nor do we want to be a minority to. Now do you get it?

You vote no after these negotiations and We can figure out the rest for ourselves old boy.

[YFred]

How do you think the way of life will change in a Turk constituent state if there is a federal republic, have you ever lived a federal country, ? Do you think the Gc's will have the power to come over and set your laws and regulations for you? what is the biggest problem you have with a federal state?...

Well we get it, but soon you will have to make a choice trust the laws and regulations of the Republic of Cyprus and the European Union, or go with Turkey....your choice

Next to a Greek Cypriot there is such an ethnic person as a “Turkish Cypriot”, but next to a Turk there are only Turks, so don’t come and tell me you’re in danger from the GCs and have nothing to worry about from Turkey, VP.

You still dont get it do you, we are not afraid of Turks as that we are in origin its the Gcs we do not trust nor do we want to be a minority to. Now do you get it?

You vote no after these negotiations and We can figure out the rest for ourselves old boy.

The problem is not at the federal level. It is at the national level. With their wealth, the GC can in the future take control of the top level and do as they wish. That is the problem.

[insan]

There is an old American saying "....You cant have your cake and eat it too...", You wont be a minority in your state, thats almost guaranteed, but being a minority in the Republic of Cyprus, where do you see the detriment to your people in that...Being in Europe the wave is towards a melting pot of different peoples, not the separation of ethnic groups, if you believe in Europe, which ive heard many TC speak of, then whats the problem.

look viewpoint, i dont think that the Greek cyps disagree with you on you being an equal in the Republic, if you are a TC of course, equal in rights equal in your cypriotness, but what you are asking about limiting one man one vote, then you are violating the majorities rights...

Come on guys we have to stand strong and our ground here. We are equal partners not a minority the GCs can crush.

WC, we can't be a nation state all of a sudden and we don't want to be a TC minority in Cyprus just like muslim minority of Greece. Now u got it?

First of all TCs have never been and treated like a minority in Cyprus and we have never ever wished it because of conflicting Turco-Greco relations.

On the other hand, haven't u ever heard abt injustices towards minorities in Greece? Greece is a member of EU but still restricts and discriminates the rights of it's minorities. I'm sure similar things would happen in Cyprus if we obbeyed GC rule.

As for the EU the melting polt, it will either melt us in a pot after many decades or break down with a WW3 in near future. Until then either "poltical equality of 2 communities" or 2 seperate states...

[insan]

How do you think the way of life will change in a Turk constituent state if there is a federal republic, have you ever lived a federal country, ? Do you think the Gc's will have the power to come over and set your laws and regulations for you? what is the biggest problem you have with a federal state?...

Well we get it, but soon you will have to make a choice trust the laws and regulations of the Republic of Cyprus and the European Union, or go with Turkey....your choice

Next to a Greek Cypriot there is such an ethnic person as a “Turkish Cypriot”, but next to a Turk there are only Turks, so don’t come and tell me you’re in danger from the GCs and have nothing to worry about from Turkey, VP.

You still dont get it do you, we are not afraid of Turks as that we are in origin its the Gcs we do not trust nor do we want to be a minority to. Now do you get it?

You vote no after these negotiations and We can figure out the rest for ourselves old boy.

The problem is not at the federal level. It is at the national level. With their wealth, the GC can in the future take control of the top level and do as they wish. That is the problem.

Sure. Money talks, bullshit goes. The rest is faery tale.

[YFred]

How do you think the way of life will change in a Turk constituent state if there is a federal republic, have you ever lived a federal country, ? Do you think the Gc's will have the power to come over and set your laws and regulations for you? what is the biggest problem you have with a federal state?...

Well we get it, but soon you will have to make a choice trust the laws and regulations of the Republic of Cyprus and the European Union, or go with Turkey....your choice

Next to a Greek Cypriot there is such an ethnic person as a “Turkish Cypriot”, but next to a Turk there are only Turks, so don’t come and tell me you’re in danger from the GCs and have nothing to worry about from Turkey, VP.

You still dont get it do you, we are not afraid of Turks as that we are in origin its the Gcs we do not trust nor do we want to be a minority to. Now do you get it?

You vote no after these negotiations and We can figure out the rest for ourselves old boy.

The problem is not at the federal level. It is at the national level. With their wealth, the GC can in the future take control of the top level and do as they wish. That is the problem.

Sure. Money talks, bullshit goes. The rest is faery tale.

it's money talks bullshit walks, insan. There is plenty of it down south.

[Nikitas]

"The problem is not at the federal level. It is at the national level. With their wealth, the GC can in the future take control of the top level and do as they wish. That is the problem."

And no doubt you have some scheme in mind to set up a veto for that eventuality too. The old "we are a special case" scenario.

How on earth will money alter an arrangement that includes a constitution! Are you serious here or are you just spouting words?

[Get Real!]

The problem is not at the federal level. It is at the national level. With their wealth, the GC can in the future take control of the top level and do as they wish. That is the problem.

Just keep importing Turkish settlers until you reach about 800,000 and then we’ll give you half our money so you can finally enjoy that “level playing field” that VP has always been fantasizing about…

[YFred]

"The problem is not at the federal level. It is at the national level. With their wealth, the GC can in the future take control of the top level and do as they wish. That is the problem."

And no doubt you have some scheme in mind to set up a veto for that eventuality too. The old "we are a special case" scenario.

How on earth will money alter an arrangement that includes a constitution! Are you serious here or are you just spouting words?

The old saying goes, will it be worth the paper it's written on, if the other side is hell bent on abusing it? A little bit like the British constitution.

[YFred]

The problem is not at the federal level. It is at the national level. With their wealth, the GC can in the future take control of the top level and do as they wish. That is the problem.

Just keep importing Turkish settlers until you reach about 800,000 and then we’ll give you half our money so you can finally enjoy that “level playing field” that VP has always been fantasizing about…

Only Half?

[Get Real!]

The problem is not at the federal level. It is at the national level. With their wealth, the GC can in the future take control of the top level and do as they wish. That is the problem.

Just keep importing Turkish settlers until you reach about 800,000 and then we’ll give you half our money so you can finally enjoy that “level playing field” that VP has always been fantasizing about…

Only Half?

Then it won't be "level" will it now you greedy sod!