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[insan]

Come on guys we have to stand strong and our ground here. We are equal partners not a minority the GCs can crush.

Nobody wants to crush you VP, not in this day and age anyway.

when an interest conflict appears they would...

insan we have to reconfirm the determination of the last 35 years, not to fall into a trap that would allow the Gcs to crush us into minority status they have to understand we are equal partners and the we have rights which the world supports under a BBF with political equality of the 2 states.

I agree with u VP but i feel like, u sometimes over exaggerate some issues.. How can the GC/Greek political forces can trap us? Our red lines r clear for several decades.

I'm afraid u have a Greco-Phobia VP. Please try to be cooler and don't over generalize on all GCs and Greeks.

We need to show our determination and high light the risks involved when dealing with Gcs who cannot be trusted with our future.

Again I agree with u VP. In order to do this one should have a silver tongue not like Eroğlu or Talat or Erdoğan or any other politicians that make incomplete statements which leads misunderstandings of other concerned parties. No need to mention that GC and Greek politicians r no better than ours.

[Viewpoint]

Next to a Greek Cypriot there is such an ethnic person as a “Turkish Cypriot”, but next to a Turk there are only Turks, so don’t come and tell me you’re in danger from the GCs and have nothing to worry about from Turkey, VP.

You still dont get it do you, we are not afraid of Turks as that we are in origin its the Gcs we do not trust nor do we want to be a minority to. Now do you get it?

[wyoming cowboy]

look viewpoint, i dont think that the Greek cyps disagree with you on you being an equal in the Republic, if you are a TC of course, equal in rights equal in your cypriotness, but what you are asking about limiting one man one vote, then you are violating the majorities rights...

Come on guys we have to stand strong and our ground here. We are equal partners not a minority the GCs can crush.

[insan]

Next to a Greek Cypriot there is such an ethnic person as a “Turkish Cypriot”, but next to a Turk there are only Turks, so don’t come and tell me you’re in danger from the GCs and have nothing to worry about from Turkey, VP.

You still dont get it do you, we are not afraid of Turks as that we are in origin its the Gcs we do not trust nor do we want to be a minority to. Now do you get it?

For instance, VP; in ur above post u might say we don't trust GC politicians instead saying GCs. Ovewhelming majority of politicians r not trustworthy anyway...

[insan]

look viewpoint, i dont think that the Greek cyps disagree with you on you being an equal in the Republic, if you are a TC of course, equal in rights equal in your cypriotness, but what you are asking about limiting one man one vote, then you are violating the majorities rights...

Come on guys we have to stand strong and our ground here. We are equal partners not a minority the GCs can crush.

WC, we can't be a nation state all of a sudden and we don't want to be a TC minority in Cyprus just like muslim minority of Greece. Now u got it?

[wyoming cowboy]

Well we get it, but soon you will have to make a choice trust the laws and regulations of the Republic of Cyprus and the European Union, or go with Turkey....your choice

Next to a Greek Cypriot there is such an ethnic person as a “Turkish Cypriot”, but next to a Turk there are only Turks, so don’t come and tell me you’re in danger from the GCs and have nothing to worry about from Turkey, VP.

You still dont get it do you, we are not afraid of Turks as that we are in origin its the Gcs we do not trust nor do we want to be a minority to. Now do you get it?

[YFred]

Well we get it, but soon you will have to make a choice trust the laws and regulations of the Republic of Cyprus and the European Union, or go with Turkey....your choice

Next to a Greek Cypriot there is such an ethnic person as a “Turkish Cypriot”, but next to a Turk there are only Turks, so don’t come and tell me you’re in danger from the GCs and have nothing to worry about from Turkey, VP.

You still dont get it do you, we are not afraid of Turks as that we are in origin its the Gcs we do not trust nor do we want to be a minority to. Now do you get it?

You vote no after these negotiations and We can figure out the rest for ourselves old boy.

[Kikapu]

EROGLU SAID AN OFFICIAL FROM THE FOREIGN MINISTRY WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE NEGOTIATING TEAM

The TCs deserve the people they elect, specially after they sold off their voting rights to the settlers over the years for their 13th salary.!

Explaining his concerns about the peace process, he said the government does not want to face a surprise plan, like the Annan Plan which was prepared by the United Nations.

Trying a little reverse psychology here by Eroglu, implying as if he never liked the Annan Plan, which all the NeoPartitionist on the forum till today are still pissing and moaning about missing the AP in 2004. Yeap, the TCs allowed the settlers and the NeoPartitionist to elect such as these fools. Again, the TCs deserve the leaders they "elected". They only got themselves to blame.!

Mr Eroglu said such plans which have a content pleasing the Greek
Cypriot Leader Dimitris Christofias would not be beneficial for the Cyprus Turkish People, adding that he would explain his concerns on the issue to President Talat.

Another "brilliant" sentence by the "great leader" the TCs allowed to be elected by the settlers, because the TCs sold their votes to receive their 13th salary. How can the above statement by this fool be correct, when 76% of the GCs said NO, YOK, OXI, NADA, NEIN to the Annan Plan.!

Idiot is, what idiot does. Go ahead TCs in the north. Go ahead and take pride in electing such incompetent fools to find a settlement, or do you still believe the promises they made to you by your "great leaders" that recognition is just around the corner, starting back in 1974.!

[wyoming cowboy]

There is an old American saying "....You cant have your cake and eat it too...", You wont be a minority in your state, thats almost guaranteed, but being a minority in the Republic of Cyprus, where do you see the detriment to your people in that...Being in Europe the wave is towards a melting pot of different peoples, not the separation of ethnic groups, if you believe in Europe, which ive heard many TC speak of, then whats the problem.

look viewpoint, i dont think that the Greek cyps disagree with you on you being an equal in the Republic, if you are a TC of course, equal in rights equal in your cypriotness, but what you are asking about limiting one man one vote, then you are violating the majorities rights...

Come on guys we have to stand strong and our ground here. We are equal partners not a minority the GCs can crush.

WC, we can't be a nation state all of a sudden and we don't want to be a TC minority in Cyprus just like muslim minority of Greece. Now u got it?

[Nikitas]

"He stated that federations could only be established between two equal partners but said that the two states in Cyprus were not equals in the aspects of economy and population. "

Can anyone here mention ONE federal state where all constituent states are of equal territorial area, economy and population numbers?

This Eorglu guy is supposedly educated, I heard he was a doctor before he became a politician. How can any educated person who reads geography not know that this assertions does not apply TO ANY FEDERAL STATE. Just look at the USA and try to find any two states of the union which are equal in numbers, GDP share, and land area. Try to do it with any federal state in the world.

There is the implication that he means that more settlers ought to be imported and more land taken to equalise the two sides. Has he not thought of that interpretation of his words? Can he really be that stupid?

And for those in here who think that a BBF settlement means a static population distribution on the island, you have a big surprise coming.

None of you think in terms of the future and how people will move around the island depending on where the jobs are. You are totally wrong to think that TCs can be imprisoned in the north because that is where you want them. TCs like all inhabitants of the island, will mmove to where there is employment. Now if you stipulate that any citizen must be taxed in the constituent state where he earns his living that would be a test for the sincerity of those, like Eroglu, that demand more than what is fair. See how he likes the possibility of being a lord of an empty, bankrupt area inhabited by settlers and foreign retirees.