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[Kibrisli Turk]

With the....

(1) Adoption of the "Republic of Cyprus" passport by hundreds, if not thousands of Turkish Cypriots living in northern Cyprus,

(2) Freedom of movement across the cease-fire line and its expansion: Its relaxing as time goes by compared to the previous year (regardless of how you look at it),

(3) Collaboration between many businesses and universities,

(4) Many Turkish Cypriots using Larnaca's international airport for travel from London to the northern part of Cyprus (using non-Turkish/Turkish Cypriot airlines)

(4) The use of the Euro currency widely used across the entire island (Yes! it is perhaps the most let's say used under the rug currency in northern Cyprus - more than the Turkish Lira in some in many cases).

(5) And how the Turkish Cypriots living in northern Cyprus commonly steering away from what is known as "Rum Kochan" (land owned by Greek Cypriots prior to 1974) and ONLY purchasing "Turkish Cypriot" owned land/properties when buying.

I get the impression that there's this underlying acceptance and yearning on both sides to integrate, almost unconditionally- even without a UN Sponsored plan, naturally.

Do you not think this is possible? According to the points of progress above, as I like to refer to them, do you not believe that a few more good will gestures will eventually force this "natural" integration?

[kafenes]

do you not believe that a few more good will gestures will eventually force this "natural" integration?

From which side? So far all the good gestures have been coming from the RoC and saw nothing in return yet. So you think steering away from Rum Kotchans is a good will gesture?

[Oracle]

(2) Freedom of movement across the cease-fire line and its expansion ...

Freedom of movement for the 43,000 Turkish troops and 200,000+ settlers?

Try as you might, step number one for Turkey regaining face, is to remove all her troops and Settlers.

TCs can keep begging for aid from both Turkey and the RoC. But, they have nothing to offer the RoC except removal from Cyprus of their 'living' ancestors!

[Paphitis]

With the....

(1) Adoption of the "Republic of Cyprus" passport by hundreds, if not thousands of Turkish Cypriots living in northern Cyprus,

(2) Freedom of movement across the cease-fire line and its expansion: Its relaxing as time goes by compared to the previous year (regardless of how you look at it),

(3) Collaboration between many businesses and universities,

(4) Many Turkish Cypriots using Larnaca's international airport for travel from London to the northern part of Cyprus (using non-Turkish/Turkish Cypriot airlines)

(4) The use of the Euro currency widely used across the entire island (Yes! it is perhaps the most let's say used under the rug currency in northern Cyprus - more than the Turkish Lira in some in many cases).

(5) And how the Turkish Cypriots living in northern Cyprus commonly steering away from what is known as "Rum Kochan" (land owned by Greek Cypriots prior to 1974) and ONLY purchasing "Turkish Cypriot" owned land/properties when buying.

I get the impression that there's this underlying acceptance and yearning on both sides to integrate, almost unconditionally- even without a UN Sponsored plan, naturally.

Do you not think this is possible? According to the points of progress above, as I like to refer to them, do you not believe that a few more good will gestures will eventually force this "natural" integration?

With so many good will gestures from the RoC and the GCs towards the TCs, do you think that the TCs could give us one good will gesture in return...even a small one?

Perhaps they could star by removing this "flag" from Pentadaktilos!



Then perhaps they could allow 45,000 GC refugees to return to their homes by giving back The Ghost City!



That way, we may be more convinced that the TCs want a solution and full integration.

[paliometoxo]

see how opening the green line only benefited the turks...

[Paphitis]

see how opening the green line only benefited the turks...

The reason why the Green Line was opened was.....

Look at the Republic of Ireland for more information....it is being looked at as a model!

[Kibrisli Turk]

Paphitis:

The reason why the Green Line was opened was.....

Look at the Republic of Ireland for more information....it is being looked at as a model!

I did not know of this, please elaborate.

Oracle:

Freedom of movement for the 43,000 Turkish troops and 200,000+ settlers?

Try as you might, step number one for Turkey regaining face, is to remove all her troops and Settlers.

TCs can keep begging for aid from both Turkey and the RoC. But, they have nothing to offer the RoC except removal from Cyprus of their 'living' ancestors!

I get your drift. You should try living in northern Cyprus with these air-heads, let alone hearing about them! What amazes me is how the Republic of Cyprus has actually fallen for this cease-fire line opening parade in the first place without the precondition of Turkish troops leaving the island! The population in the north is now 510'000, with only 80'000 or so being Turkish Cypriot - Speak to Alpay Durduran from the New Cyprus Party in the north. As for the Turkish flag on the mountain thing, it's all too heavy for us Turkish Cypriots to even remove a Turkish flag from a petrol station let alone protest the huge flag inverted Turkish flag on the mountain.

I seriously wish you good luck with all that campaigning, but we Turkish Cypriots (the ones that are not brainwashed) in northern Cyprus, not to tell a lie, have now become the minority of a minority. We are seriously out-numbered and beat. Just take a look at the name the break away republic was given in 1983 of "The Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus". Notice how it does not contain any reference to being a "Turkish Cypriot" state, absolute nothing. A bit scary.

What I'm getting at here Oracle is that we Turkish Cypriots have lost the race with Turkey on north Cyprus. Seeking a "Cypriot" solution is OUT of Turkish Cypriot hands. It's really up to the Republic of Cyprus with its EU backing and Turkey to broker a deal, and not with the Turkish Cypriots. Talat is a puppet as we all know. President Christofias would have actually done better if he had referred to Talat as the Vice President of the Republic of Cyprus, at least Talat would have had a better grounding.

Good luck my friend.

[denizaksulu]

(2) Freedom of movement across the cease-fire line and its expansion ...

Freedom of movement for the 43,000 Turkish troops and 200,000+ settlers?

Try as you might, step number one for Turkey regaining face, is to remove all her troops and Settlers.

TCs can keep begging for aid from both Turkey and the RoC. But, they have nothing to offer the RoC except removal from Cyprus of their 'living' ancestors!

Potato's, Tomato's and brick's. The RoC can not do without them.

[denizaksulu]

With the....

(1) Adoption of the "Republic of Cyprus" passport by hundreds, if not thousands of Turkish Cypriots living in northern Cyprus,

(2) Freedom of movement across the cease-fire line and its expansion: Its relaxing as time goes by compared to the previous year (regardless of how you look at it),

(3) Collaboration between many businesses and universities,

(4) Many Turkish Cypriots using Larnaca's international airport for travel from London to the northern part of Cyprus (using non-Turkish/Turkish Cypriot airlines)

(4) The use of the Euro currency widely used across the entire island (Yes! it is perhaps the most let's say used under the rug currency in northern Cyprus - more than the Turkish Lira in some in many cases).

(5) And how the Turkish Cypriots living in northern Cyprus commonly steering away from what is known as "Rum Kochan" (land owned by Greek Cypriots prior to 1974) and ONLY purchasing "Turkish Cypriot" owned land/properties when buying.

I get the impression that there's this underlying acceptance and yearning on both sides to integrate, almost unconditionally- even without a UN Sponsored plan, naturally.

Do you not think this is possible? According to the points of progress above, as I like to refer to them, do you not believe that a few more good will gestures will eventually force this "natural" integration?

With so many good will gestures from the RoC and the GCs towards the TCs, do you think that the TCs could give us one good will gesture in return...even a small one?

Perhaps they could star by removing this "flag" from Pentadaktilos!



Then perhaps they could allow 45,000 GC refugees to return to their homes by giving back The Ghost City!



That way, we may be more convinced that the TCs want a solution and full integration.

What a cheek? I asked , you said, pull the other one.

[YFred]

do you not believe that a few more good will gestures will eventually force this "natural" integration?

From which side? So far all the good gestures have been coming from the RoC and saw nothing in return yet. So you think steering away from Rum Kotchans is a good will gesture?

For god sake stop all this good will, we suffocating.