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[magikthrill]

hey guys

here some "secret" information I obtained from my friend who works with the ministry of defenses department of defense analysis. after various meetings they concluded that it is impossible for Turkey to ever enter the EU. They finally realized that the no votes from the french and dutch had much to do with Turkeys potential EU membership. Also he said something about polls in the scandinavian countries showed growing resentment towards TUrkey entering the EU and their countries being swarmed with immigrants.

Of course Turkey is always a step ahead of the game and the EU leaders cannot go out and say no you cannot enter the EU after all the procedure but they will probably fund the country through the supposed ascension process which is fine by Turkey.

The Greek leaders are quite annoyed by this because a Turkish EU would be a lot less hassle for the hellenic republic.

[cannedmoose]

Sorry to disagree Thrill, but the 'no' votes in France and Holland actually had little to do with Turkey's prospective membership, despite media comments to the contrary. The latest flash Eurobarometers analysing the reasons for the rejections in those two countries put opposition to Turkish membership as between 3 and 6% of those who voted no, so not a huge amount. Mostly it was to do with the loss of national sovereignty, not feeling engaged by the EU etc.

However, I do agree with you that this is a rising sentiment, being whipped up by nationalist parties across the continent and you are also correct in that a Turkey fully engaged with the EU would be one heck of a bonus for Greece and Cyprus... the alternative just doesn't bear thinking about.

[demetriou_74]

intresting. why would a turkish EU be less hassle?

[detailer]

Magikthrill,

Where have you been?

Everyone is saying something else about the Turkey's deal with EU. I was just reading an article from a well known Turkish columnist about same issue. But he was saying that there won't be any german football players in the bundasliga 20 years later because of the aging of the population. He adds that young population of Turkey would be the most aprropriate solution for aging problem of Europe since she is geographically and culturally the closest country to Europe.He says that EU will accept Turkey to the union in the end as a result of neccessity.

I agree with him; the relations between Turkey and EU will go tighter and tighter but there can be serious crisis on the way. Noone knows what will be name of relationship between EU and Turkey in the end of this way and noone knows if EU will survive with its current mechanism either...

[cannedmoose]

A Turkey within the EU regime would be far more constrained in its actions both internationally and domestically. The endless daily dogfights that go on between Turkey and Greece over the Aegean would be looked upon very harshly if taking place between two EU member states... there are so many other positives it would take too long to spell them all out.

[magikthrill]

A Turkey within the EU regime would be far more constrained in its actions both internationally and domestically. The endless daily dogfights that go on between Turkey and Greece over the Aegean would be looked upon very harshly if taking place between two EU member states... there are so many other positives it would take too long to spell them all out.

apparently people who live in isolation feel that because GCs hostile rleations with Turkey this means that Greece is automatically on the same boat.

Greece could give a rats ass about the well being of Turkey and vice versa no doubt but as moose mentioned an EU Turkey would pose much less threat between the two states. Also an EU Turkey would mean no more mandatory military duty for males aged 18-35ish.

[Murtaza]

This is the one think I dont like from EU.
They will restrict us.

[cannedmoose]

This is the one think I dont like from EU.
They will restrict us.

That's the nature of the beast murtaza... if you don't like the idea of losing an arm, don't get into the lion's den...

[Murtaza]

Well said.

I think we will have worse problem than Greece.

If we enter EU, It would give us some power against Russia.
I prefer it.

[cannedmoose]

Exactly, it's swings and roundabouts, you lose some powers and you gain influence in an influential economic and political Union. As Turkey would also become the largest single member of that Union, it's not all bad murtaza