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Levent: "Ankara, hands off"

Postby Nikitas » Wed Aug 26, 2009 11:55 pm

I am translating part of today's article by Sener Levent in Politis newspaper.

This is the first outright call for Turkey to leave TCs alone.

"Ankara take your hands off us". These [words] are the first big sparks in a settling of accounts. You will see. This fight will grow. And the consequences will bear down on those that caused these hardships. Is it only the Koran lessons? It is a struggle for political will. A revolt. Against eradication, against extinction. Do not forget. If the Cyprus problem is to be solved, this is the only way it will be solved. First we must settle accounts with Ankara. Ankara has exhausted us politically and economically. This struggle is now a fight for survival. Our teachers yesterday returned to their true owners the black wreaths given by the crowd of Islamists, to the Turkish embassy. It was a gesture of great meaning, greater than all the actions of recent years."

And if Levent is right, there comes the biggest challenge that the RoC has ever faced and I hope our politicians have the brains and the balls to seize the opportunity. The test will be the solidarity shown to the TCs if they do go against Ankara. If, on the other hand, this is treated as a "Turks only" affair and the RoC decides to adopt a neutral stance it will accomplish two things- betray the TCs at a time of need, and secondly accept Ankara's point that the north is now a separate entity in which the RoC has no place.

We will see how this plays out.
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Postby YFred » Thu Aug 27, 2009 12:41 am

It's very simple.
Remove the embargos to TRNC and watch 75% (Inc "Settlers") of TCs begin the struggle to remove Ankara’s influence from Cyprus and unite with the south.

Do nothing and you will get nothing form the TCs.

Your call.
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Postby Get Real! » Thu Aug 27, 2009 12:57 am

YFred wrote:It's very simple.
Remove the embargos to TRNC and watch 75% (Inc "Settlers") of TCs begin the struggle to remove Ankara’s influence from Cyprus and unite with the south.

Do nothing and you will get nothing form the TCs.

Your call.

"Legitimize our theft so that we may give some back to you!"

This guy is too cool... 8)
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Postby YFred » Thu Aug 27, 2009 1:07 am

Get Real! wrote:
YFred wrote:It's very simple.
Remove the embargos to TRNC and watch 75% (Inc "Settlers") of TCs begin the struggle to remove Ankara’s influence from Cyprus and unite with the south.

Do nothing and you will get nothing form the TCs.

Your call.

"Legitimize our theft so that we may give some back to you!"

This guy is too cool... 8)

"Legitimise"? You give a new meaning to the word bastard.
Sit back and enjoy the show.
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Postby Nikitas » Thu Aug 27, 2009 1:25 am

This is a big dilemma. I wonder if there are politicians, GC and TC, with enough political intelligence to understand what is happening. I hope there are, judging by past history the probabilities are that there are none.

Removing the embargoes is a two way street. TC businessmen who want to shake off Turkish controls can do so now but few do so. The TC chamber of commerce has EU approval to grant official documentation to goods originating in northern Cyprus. I am not going to speculate about the reasons, fact is that much more could be exported from the north to the EU.

But the embargoes are not the only hurdle. It seems that something is brewing inside TC society. It is tempting to draw parallels with the process in the GC community in the early 70s when the Enosis dream was busted and all kinds of taboos collapsed. We will see in the next few months.
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Postby YFred » Thu Aug 27, 2009 1:29 am

Nikitas wrote:This is a big dilemma. I wonder if there are politicians, GC and TC, with enough political intelligence to understand what is happening. I hope there are, judging by past history the probabilities are that there are none.

Removing the embargoes is a two way street. TC businessmen who want to shake off Turkish controls can do so now but few do so. The TC chamber of commerce has EU approval to grant official documentation to goods originating in northern Cyprus. I am not going to speculate about the reasons, fact is that much more could be exported from the north to the EU.

But the embargoes are not the only hurdle. It seems that something is brewing inside TC society. It is tempting to draw parallels with the process in the GC community in the early 70s when the Enosis dream was busted and all kinds of taboos collapsed. We will see in the next few months.

You are wrong about TC businessmen being able to trade with the south. In theory yes, but in practice no, personal experience.

We will see if Akel and Disy top brass have balls to tackle such a thorny issue.
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Re: Levent: "Ankara, hands off"

Postby The Cypriot » Thu Aug 27, 2009 8:47 am

Nikitas wrote:I am translating part of today's article by Sener Levent in Politis newspaper.

This is the first outright call for Turkey to leave TCs alone.

"Ankara take your hands off us". These [words] are the first big sparks in a settling of accounts. You will see. This fight will grow. And the consequences will bear down on those that caused these hardships. Is it only the Koran lessons? It is a struggle for political will. A revolt. Against eradication, against extinction. Do not forget. If the Cyprus problem is to be solved, this is the only way it will be solved. First we must settle accounts with Ankara. Ankara has exhausted us politically and economically. This struggle is now a fight for survival. Our teachers yesterday returned to their true owners the black wreaths given by the crowd of Islamists, to the Turkish embassy. It was a gesture of great meaning, greater than all the actions of recent years."

And if Levent is right, there comes the biggest challenge that the RoC has ever faced and I hope our politicians have the brains and the balls to seize the opportunity. The test will be the solidarity shown to the TCs if they do go against Ankara. If, on the other hand, this is treated as a "Turks only" affair and the RoC decides to adopt a neutral stance it will accomplish two things- betray the TCs at a time of need, and secondly accept Ankara's point that the north is now a separate entity in which the RoC has no place.

We will see how this plays out.


Some TCs are revolting it's true. Is VP among them, do you think?
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Postby miltiades » Thu Aug 27, 2009 9:12 am

The T/Cs are the only power that will force Turkey out of Cyprus. A statement I have made on numerous occasions .
The embargoes and political " war" must carry on .The T/Cs must see both sides of the coin. Removing or relaxing embargoes while it will benefit the T/Cs it will also cement the foundations of partition and of the "trnc" as ell as get Turkey of the hook.
The RoC must do more of what it preaches in that a strong clear message must be sent to the T/Cs , a message that this island is theirs as well as our and that this island is not what the brainless football supporters , on another threat are claiming.
It is time for brave decisions , many will oppose changes but changes in our outlook must take place if we are to avoid permanent partition and annexation by Turkey of a part of our island.
On this forum there are many true Cypriots , T/Cs such as Deniz , Kikapu , Bir , Cem Umit o7 Iceman and many more. These Cypriots are our compatriots they are not a minority they one of us and we are one of them Cypriots .
Only on this forum we have heard from T/Cs who proudly consider Cyprus their homeland , some that have not been on the forum for some time now , people like young xxNILXX , VURYEK , PASHAS , AHMED from Eastbourne in the UK, and more whose name I forget .
Halil , a T/C also considers Cyprus to be his homeland .
Let us continuy our road towards unification.
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Postby Nikephoros » Thu Aug 27, 2009 10:41 am

More Cypriotist bs.
Greeks and Turks are not brothers. Greek Cypriots and their Turkish Cypriots brothers are not. Infact most Turkish Cypriots are big time traitors collaborating with TMT to help create beach-heads for a Turkish amphibious landing and giving support to Turkish parachutists.

For their own sake, GCs need to stop being leftist and Neo-Ottomanist losers for once in their history and asap.
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Postby Nikitas » Thu Aug 27, 2009 10:51 am

Nikephore,

What exactly are you suggesting in this case? If the TCs sart mass rallies against the occupation and demanding that Turkey leave them alone, what should we do? Stand idle and watch the settlers choke the TCs?

Seeing your comments I am beginning to wonder if you have ever been to Cyprus and know the situation and the terrain.
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