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Postby Tim Drayton » Thu Aug 27, 2009 4:03 pm

http://www.financialmirror.com/News/Cyp ... News/16932

Cyprus Green Line trade up 4.7% y/y in Jan-July

Sales of goods from Turkish Cypriots to Greek Cypriots across the Green Line that divides Cyprus reached EUR 4.1 mln in January-July, according to the Turkish Cypriot Chamber of Commerce.
This marked a rise of 4.7% compared with the same period of 2008, when sales of EUR 3.9 mln were recorded.
The largest five categories accounted for 80% of all sales. They were fruit and vegetables, dominated by potatoes (EUR 1.3 mln sales); articles of stone, dominated by building stone (EUR 724,580); plastics (EUR 500,168); metals (EUR 407,415) and furniture (EUR 340,980).
As the acquis communautaire is suspended in northern part of Cyprus, sales from north to south across the Green Line are governed by the EU’s Green Line regulation 866/2004.
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Postby The Cypriot » Thu Aug 27, 2009 4:13 pm

EPSILON wrote:The effects of the story is already on you/me and them. Very late for changes.


Never too late to change, Epsilon. If the story doesn't fit it should change.

EPSILON wrote: They will continue to try to achieve their targets and we will try to do the same. Some times by loving them, sometimes fighting them and vice versa. If you remember this story is more than 500 years old/



Germany and France had a similar story.... then they set up the European Coal and Steel Community six years after World War II. The rest is... history.
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Postby EPSILON » Thu Aug 27, 2009 4:22 pm

The Cypriot wrote:
EPSILON wrote:The effects of the story is already on you/me and them. Very late for changes.


Never too late to change, Epsilon. If the story doesn't fit it should change.

EPSILON wrote: They will continue to try to achieve their targets and we will try to do the same. Some times by loving them, sometimes fighting them and vice versa. If you remember this story is more than 500 years old/



Germany and France had a similar story.... then they set up the European Coal and Steel Community six years after World War II. The rest is... history.


I do not remember than either France or Germany presently occupy each other territory. Secondly here my friend is Balkan and East Med. Different people different habits...
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Postby Paphitis » Thu Aug 27, 2009 4:35 pm

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Nikitas wrote:YFred said: "You are wrong about TC businessmen being able to trade with the south. In theory yes, but in practice no, personal experience. "

Today there is a major story, and you can see it in the Mail sections in the forum too, about GC brickmakers protesting about what they perceive as unfair competition from TC bricks. The bricks are sold at much lower prices and are gaining a growing market share in the RoC. So obviously some businessmen are able to move and sell products across the Green line.

Our local supermarkets in Athens have TC potatoes. I buy them regularly. Again, the facts prove that trade does move across the Green line and there is no hermetic sealing of the TCs.



For some reason, the selling of potatos and bricks does not involve the recognition of the northern administration, but sportsmen and flights do. I cannot see the lojik here. :lol:


You can't be serious Deniz? :roll:
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Postby Paphitis » Thu Aug 27, 2009 4:38 pm

The Cypriot wrote:
EPSILON wrote:The effects of the story is already on you/me and them. Very late for changes.


Never too late to change, Epsilon. If the story doesn't fit it should change.

EPSILON wrote: They will continue to try to achieve their targets and we will try to do the same. Some times by loving them, sometimes fighting them and vice versa. If you remember this story is more than 500 years old/



Germany and France had a similar story.... then they set up the European Coal and Steel Community six years after World War II. The rest is... history.


The issue is you are not dealing with any TCs.

It is Turkey we are dealing with, and her influence in Cyprus will only increase. It will never budge or compromise, unless it is pressured to do so out of self interest from the international big players (EU, US).
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Postby denizaksulu » Thu Aug 27, 2009 4:40 pm

Paphitis wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Nikitas wrote:YFred said: "You are wrong about TC businessmen being able to trade with the south. In theory yes, but in practice no, personal experience. "

Today there is a major story, and you can see it in the Mail sections in the forum too, about GC brickmakers protesting about what they perceive as unfair competition from TC bricks. The bricks are sold at much lower prices and are gaining a growing market share in the RoC. So obviously some businessmen are able to move and sell products across the Green line.

Our local supermarkets in Athens have TC potatoes. I buy them regularly. Again, the facts prove that trade does move across the Green line and there is no hermetic sealing of the TCs.



For some reason, the selling of potatos and bricks does not involve the recognition of the northern administration, but sportsmen and flights do. I cannot see the lojik here. :lol:


You can't be serious Deniz? :roll:


I am serious. Though not hrmetically sealed, lifting of more embargo's would help GC v TC relations better. IMHO.
Its a risk worth taking, dont you think?
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Postby Paphitis » Thu Aug 27, 2009 4:52 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Nikitas wrote:YFred said: "You are wrong about TC businessmen being able to trade with the south. In theory yes, but in practice no, personal experience. "

Today there is a major story, and you can see it in the Mail sections in the forum too, about GC brickmakers protesting about what they perceive as unfair competition from TC bricks. The bricks are sold at much lower prices and are gaining a growing market share in the RoC. So obviously some businessmen are able to move and sell products across the Green line.

Our local supermarkets in Athens have TC potatoes. I buy them regularly. Again, the facts prove that trade does move across the Green line and there is no hermetic sealing of the TCs.



For some reason, the selling of potatos and bricks does not involve the recognition of the northern administration, but sportsmen and flights do. I cannot see the lojik here. :lol:


You can't be serious Deniz? :roll:


I am serious. Though not hrmetically sealed, lifting of more embargo's would help GC v TC relations better. IMHO.
Its a risk worth taking, dont you think?


Sorry Deniz!

We can't be fooled. The TCs make bugger all difference and have no influence whatsoever! We are not going to sponsor the Turkish Occupation, because as you know, Turkey will just proceed to fulfill her strategic targets on Cyprus. It will just bring in more settlers to silence you forever, whilst the TC populace dwindles.

Pull the other one Deniz! :roll:

Furthermore, direct flights can not occur because the "trnc" is not an ICAO recognized jurisdiction. Only one authority on the island is recognized.
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Postby The Cypriot » Thu Aug 27, 2009 5:53 pm

EPSILON wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
EPSILON wrote:The effects of the story is already on you/me and them. Very late for changes.


Never too late to change, Epsilon. If the story doesn't fit it should change.

EPSILON wrote: They will continue to try to achieve their targets and we will try to do the same. Some times by loving them, sometimes fighting them and vice versa. If you remember this story is more than 500 years old/



Germany and France had a similar story.... then they set up the European Coal and Steel Community six years after World War II. The rest is... history.


I do not remember than either France or Germany presently occupy each other territory.


France occupied a whole sector of W. Germany after WW II. Where does France end and Germany begin? There are French speaking towns in Germany and vice versa... the border isn't set. And no longer really matters.

EPSILON wrote:Secondly here my friend is Balkan and East Med. Different people different habits...


Different story needed in Cyprus... but I take your point; the Nazis in Turkey must be removed first.
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Postby Paphitis » Thu Aug 27, 2009 6:00 pm

The Cypriot wrote:
EPSILON wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
EPSILON wrote:The effects of the story is already on you/me and them. Very late for changes.


Never too late to change, Epsilon. If the story doesn't fit it should change.

EPSILON wrote: They will continue to try to achieve their targets and we will try to do the same. Some times by loving them, sometimes fighting them and vice versa. If you remember this story is more than 500 years old/



Germany and France had a similar story.... then they set up the European Coal and Steel Community six years after World War II. The rest is... history.


I do not remember than either France or Germany presently occupy each other territory.


France occupied a whole sector of W. Germany after WW II. Where does France end and Germany begin? There are French speaking towns in Germany and vice versa... the border isn't set. And no longer really matters.

EPSILON wrote:Secondly here my friend is Balkan and East Med. Different people different habits...


Different story needed in Cyprus... but I take your point; the Nazis in Turkey must be removed first.


Germany surrendered unconditionally in WW2.

Don't even expect a compromise from Turkey. They are worse than the Nazis when it comes to Cyprus!
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Postby The Cypriot » Thu Aug 27, 2009 7:34 pm

Paphitis wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:Different story needed in Cyprus... but I take your point; the Nazis in Turkey must be removed first.


Germany surrendered unconditionally in WW2.

Don't even expect a compromise from Turkey. They are worse than the Nazis when it comes to Cyprus!


Haven't you heard? His Eminence is assembling the elite Cypriot SAS (Special 'Amen' Service) for a final showdown...

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See if they won't surrender to God...
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