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[Dhavlos]

hey hey !!!

im only 17, gosh, give me some slack. I'd heard of it before, but never interested enough to find out.

SOrry if i offended anyone.

Im just trying to be honest...its only a question...so just answer it politely please.... no need to bite my head off!!!

[gabaston]

ok dhavlos,,,never mind - your apology says much about you.

well done

[MicAtCyp]

As far as I understand the original article does not talk about recognition but for accepting the passports .Will someone ever answer my question which is relevant to that or not?i repeat:

Pardon me one question here: Don't the US, the UK and many other countries already accept "trnc" passports?? If yes what is the big deal with Azerbaijan?

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Murtaza, sorry man, I told you you have clever points in your posts but it is very difficult for me to understand what you want to say. Could you at least elaborate on this point?

Nacorno-Karabah
That is excatly why they need us.

[Murtaza]

MicAtCyp

What I want to say you is that,

Now, turkey has changed Its politic, She also work for recognision of TRNC.

And We both know, We just need one country to recognise it.
If a country recognise it, It will open way for other countries.

So dont underestimate Azeris, and I dont think papadapolous is a good leader and I dont understand why you fanatically protect him. He made a big mistake, now No EU, so how can you force Turkey for something She didnt? If you support papadopolous with blindly, he will continue to make mistakes.


Do you realy think, without Turkey TC will enough courage for joining with you? Or do they realy trust you that much?


Our president is Erdogan, and I accept sometimes he become a moron. Maybe You should accept it. But well It is just a brainstorming.

[MicAtCyp]

Murtaza

thanks for your reply but still did not answer me about the Nakorno Karabah.
About the Azerbaijan issue, if you read the newspaper article in the beginning it just says they will accept the passports.This does not mean recognition!

I dont think papadapolous is a good leader and I dont understand why you fanatically protect him. He made a big mistake, now No EU, so how can you force Turkey for something She didnt? If you support papadopolous with blindly, he will continue to make mistakes.

No,no,no I don't really "support" him. In fact I think he made a very big mistake by writting a letter to the UN in 2004 to bring the 2 sides into negotiations on the Anan Plan. That was a very big mistake that brought us problems we never had before.
After this first mistake (which was huge anyway) he seems to be doing well. If he does another mistake be sure there will be a revolution against him.

What I do is just respect him as our President.. For your information I respect Erdogan very much too.

[Murtaza]

MicAtCyp

there is no recognition for TRNC. This is just a small step, But If they recognise TRNC, just dont underestimate it. Because There would be other countries to recognise TRNC too.

By the way, I support reunion, Not because for TC or GC, but for Turkey. We dont need an enemy greece. We have other issues. There is not much left at west, We should return east, Turkic Countries, and other countries, and If there is a enemy greece, It will make us vulnerable.Also It will also force us, to waste our energy at balkan issues. If we can be friend with Greece, Their support to serbs will be less.

Of course This is only what I think.



what is your question about Nakorno Karabah?

In reality roc have not much thing do against Azerbaijan.

That place is for bigger player, like russia, Iran or Turkey and USA.

I am sure they dont want greeks as enemy, but They need Turkey as a friend, Even we can say Turkey is their only hope to take their land back.

And about EU, I will afraid England, If she is alone.

But If she is with EU, I will not afraid from them. EU is just an economical power, they have not militarical power. Without supporting your politics with Army, you cannot have much think to do. So they will not choose EU over Turkey.So Greece also had not much power to harm Azerbaijan.

And I think, Greece have much motivation for fighting ROC.

Ask your question about Nakorno Karabah again? If still I didnt answer you.

[Main_Source]

Tell you the truth...i dont really understnad what you say Murtaza..but from what I can understand...I really dont think Greece is that much of a political enemy of Turkey anymore.

I hope the two countries can secure a joint hosting of an upcoming European Cup tournament.

[gabaston]

MS

your right, they aint the biggest of enemies anymore and they realise its better to live in peace and cooperation than in the shadows of fear and hostility.

hope we can do the same some day.

[Main_Source]

In a JOINT and UNIFIED country, yes.

[Murtaza]

In reality, what we have is just word, and maybe some good wish.
But we have most problem with greece.
And I can easily say, except Armenia, our relation with greece is worst.