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[EPSILON]

Oh please stop pretending that the TCs have any say so in being in control of their own destiny in the north. They are in the minority to the settlers for God sake, and just because they are in control of the Micky Mouse Parliament, hardly makes them in control. The fact that many TCs use the RoC's and EU's positions for their own needs without any loyalty to even consider themselves to be Cypriots, is an embarrassment and an insult to their own integrity, or lack there of it.!

Then it is all over bar the shouting – may as well remove the RoC benefits from TCs that live in the North and see what happens. Given your above statement would mean that the population of the North do not want a solution.

Since 2004, the only "solution" the north has been interested in, is where it is non Democratic, violation of others Human Rights, violation of International Laws, non EU Principles, Partition option to be left open, 2 people, 2 nationalities, 2 of what ever else you can think of, and 29%+ of the land under strict TC (Turkey) rule. Now AWE, you tell me, does the above recipe sounds like a workable settlement to you or did I get this recipe wrong, in which case, please feel free to correct the above. So you tell me, AWE, does the north want to unify or not, and if so, under what conditions and terms if they are different from the above I gave you.?

By the way, AWE. I have to assume that you are a TC/Turk (I’m a Cyprus born TC), in which case, you really should stop quoting others by using their out dated 200+ years ago quotes which may have been relevant at that time but not today under True Democracy in the West, as you have done with your signature. The US did not have a True Democracy in those days and what they did have, was no better than what Saudi Arabia has today, which is crap, which is no different than so called Democracies in many parts of the world. In fact it was worse, since slave ownership was legal at that time in the US. As you may have noticed, we have a black president in the US, and that only came about because of True Democracy which gives each American citizen Equal Rights under the constitution.

I really do not want to embarrass you any further with this, but only an idiot would use such outdated quotes in today's world, because 51% majority does not take away the rights (Democratic or Constitutional) from the other 49%. In Thomas Jefferson's time, at best, 10% privileged whites took away all the "Democratic and Constitutional" ( these people were not protected by the constitution) right of others as well as their Human Rights when it came to the blacks and most other immigrants, such as the Chinese and the Irish. I took Erolz to task on the same subject, except he was quoting Benjamin Franklin. Same crap, different names. It makes you look silly in trying to score political points by mocking Democracy, just because True Democracy, Human Rights, International Laws does not serve your purpose.. So, Can I assume in that case that you do not vote at all.?

Kikapu, I am following your post long time now.You use to post long texts , very well written , i can say some time very sophistigated.

I feel that you can not understand (some genious have this problem) the basic thing about Cyprus problem.

Turks won a war.!!!They still have the military power.Greece is sleeping (politicians) , trying to get as much pribes as they can.Cyprus (ROC) is a small -very small coin for int community and particularly for Turkey.

You , and many others, MUST underatsand that the problem is simple as such.

THE ONLY DEFENCE G/CS CAN HAVE IS TO REMAIN GREEKS (INRELEVANT TO GREEK REPUBLIC) AND TO INSIT ON THIS WAITING..
Unfortunatetly all others are theories - A country like Germany surrended because of allies military power and you, othes, telling us here that ROC can negotiate with Turks a "fair" solution?"

G/cs must urgently change targets and policies

EPSILON SPOKE!!!!

Indeed he did , Rubbish as always !!

Re Milti-fkale fausan gia 10 meres eipa sou

[Kikapu]

Oh please stop pretending that the TCs have any say so in being in control of their own destiny in the north. They are in the minority to the settlers for God sake, and just because they are in control of the Micky Mouse Parliament, hardly makes them in control. The fact that many TCs use the RoC's and EU's positions for their own needs without any loyalty to even consider themselves to be Cypriots, is an embarrassment and an insult to their own integrity, or lack there of it.!

Then it is all over bar the shouting – may as well remove the RoC benefits from TCs that live in the North and see what happens. Given your above statement would mean that the population of the North do not want a solution.

Since 2004, the only "solution" the north has been interested in, is where it is non Democratic, violation of others Human Rights, violation of International Laws, non EU Principles, Partition option to be left open, 2 people, 2 nationalities, 2 of what ever else you can think of, and 29%+ of the land under strict TC (Turkey) rule. Now AWE, you tell me, does the above recipe sounds like a workable settlement to you or did I get this recipe wrong, in which case, please feel free to correct the above. So you tell me, AWE, does the north want to unify or not, and if so, under what conditions and terms if they are different from the above I gave you.?

By the way, AWE. I have to assume that you are a TC/Turk (I’m a Cyprus born TC), in which case, you really should stop quoting others by using their out dated 200+ years ago quotes which may have been relevant at that time but not today under True Democracy in the West, as you have done with your signature. The US did not have a True Democracy in those days and what they did have, was no better than what Saudi Arabia has today, which is crap, which is no different than so called Democracies in many parts of the world. In fact it was worse, since slave ownership was legal at that time in the US. As you may have noticed, we have a black president in the US, and that only came about because of True Democracy which gives each American citizen Equal Rights under the constitution.

I really do not want to embarrass you any further with this, but only an idiot would use such outdated quotes in today's world, because 51% majority does not take away the rights (Democratic or Constitutional) from the other 49%. In Thomas Jefferson's time, at best, 10% privileged whites took away all the "Democratic and Constitutional" ( these people were not protected by the constitution) right of others as well as their Human Rights when it came to the blacks and most other immigrants, such as the Chinese and the Irish. I took Erolz to task on the same subject, except he was quoting Benjamin Franklin. Same crap, different names. It makes you look silly in trying to score political points by mocking Democracy, just because True Democracy, Human Rights, International Laws does not serve your purpose.. So, Can I assume in that case that you do not vote at all.?

Kikapu, I am following your post long time now.You use to post long texts , very well written , i can say some time very sophistigated.

I feel that you can not understand (some genious have this problem) the basic thing about Cyprus problem.

Turks won a war.!!!They still have the military power.Greece is sleeping (politicians) , trying to get as much pribes as they can.Cyprus (ROC) is a small -very small coin for int community and particularly for Turkey.

You , and many others, MUST underatsand that the problem is simple as such.

THE ONLY DEFENCE G/CS CAN HAVE IS TO REMAIN GREEKS (INRELEVANT TO GREEK REPUBLIC) AND TO INSIT ON THIS WAITING..
Unfortunatetly all others are theories - A country like Germany surrended because of allies military power and you, othes, telling us here that ROC can negotiate with Turks a "fair" solution?"

G/cs must urgently change targets and policies

EPSILON SPOKE!!!!

Yesterday you abused me by saying that TCs smell and today you amuse me by saying TCs write great.!

I don't know. Your whole approach stinks to me.!!

[Get Real!]

EPSILON SPOKE!!!!

Yesterday you abused me by saying that TCs smell and today you amuse me by saying TCs write great.!

I don't know. Your whole approach stinks to me.!!

It’s got a Greek fetta stench to it…

[repulsewarrior]

Epsilon, what kind of a war is fought and won when the majority of its victims, the dead, displaced and missing, are civilians. If you are a Human, there is no Honour in this. You are implying that the Turkish State has acted as cowards. You also imply that we as "Greeks" should act in the same way in opposition to them.

I have no issue with the help we as Greek Cypriots can offer our confrere. Everything should be done to strengthen the links Cypriots can have amongst themselves. I encourage anyone who is able to go north to do so carefully, spending where it benefits dwellers, rather than the investors who entice us with luxury. Political acts will follow if in solidarity we the general public act.

[Kikapu]

EPSILON SPOKE!!!!

Yesterday you abused me by saying that TCs smell and today you amuse me by saying TCs write great.!

I don't know. Your whole approach stinks to me.!!

It’s got a Greek fetta stench to it…

Is that what that whiff was.?

[miltiades]

Oh please stop pretending that the TCs have any say so in being in control of their own destiny in the north. They are in the minority to the settlers for God sake, and just because they are in control of the Micky Mouse Parliament, hardly makes them in control. The fact that many TCs use the RoC's and EU's positions for their own needs without any loyalty to even consider themselves to be Cypriots, is an embarrassment and an insult to their own integrity, or lack there of it.!

Then it is all over bar the shouting – may as well remove the RoC benefits from TCs that live in the North and see what happens. Given your above statement would mean that the population of the North do not want a solution.

Since 2004, the only "solution" the north has been interested in, is where it is non Democratic, violation of others Human Rights, violation of International Laws, non EU Principles, Partition option to be left open, 2 people, 2 nationalities, 2 of what ever else you can think of, and 29%+ of the land under strict TC (Turkey) rule. Now AWE, you tell me, does the above recipe sounds like a workable settlement to you or did I get this recipe wrong, in which case, please feel free to correct the above. So you tell me, AWE, does the north want to unify or not, and if so, under what conditions and terms if they are different from the above I gave you.?

By the way, AWE. I have to assume that you are a TC/Turk (I’m a Cyprus born TC), in which case, you really should stop quoting others by using their out dated 200+ years ago quotes which may have been relevant at that time but not today under True Democracy in the West, as you have done with your signature. The US did not have a True Democracy in those days and what they did have, was no better than what Saudi Arabia has today, which is crap, which is no different than so called Democracies in many parts of the world. In fact it was worse, since slave ownership was legal at that time in the US. As you may have noticed, we have a black president in the US, and that only came about because of True Democracy which gives each American citizen Equal Rights under the constitution.

I really do not want to embarrass you any further with this, but only an idiot would use such outdated quotes in today's world, because 51% majority does not take away the rights (Democratic or Constitutional) from the other 49%. In Thomas Jefferson's time, at best, 10% privileged whites took away all the "Democratic and Constitutional" ( these people were not protected by the constitution) right of others as well as their Human Rights when it came to the blacks and most other immigrants, such as the Chinese and the Irish. I took Erolz to task on the same subject, except he was quoting Benjamin Franklin. Same crap, different names. It makes you look silly in trying to score political points by mocking Democracy, just because True Democracy, Human Rights, International Laws does not serve your purpose.. So, Can I assume in that case that you do not vote at all.?

Kikapu, I am following your post long time now.You use to post long texts , very well written , i can say some time very sophistigated.

I feel that you can not understand (some genious have this problem) the basic thing about Cyprus problem.

Turks won a war.!!!They still have the military power.Greece is sleeping (politicians) , trying to get as much pribes as they can.Cyprus (ROC) is a small -very small coin for int community and particularly for Turkey.

You , and many others, MUST underatsand that the problem is simple as such.

THE ONLY DEFENCE G/CS CAN HAVE IS TO REMAIN GREEKS (INRELEVANT TO GREEK REPUBLIC) AND TO INSIT ON THIS WAITING..
Unfortunatetly all others are theories - A country like Germany surrended because of allies military power and you, othes, telling us here that ROC can negotiate with Turks a "fair" solution?"

G/cs must urgently change targets and policies

EPSILON SPOKE!!!!

Indeed he did , Rubbish as always !!

Re Milti-fkale fausan gia 10 meres eipa sou

Re malaka , etsi ambalatous opos esena lalo tous assixtir !!
Elliniki kipriaki demokratia !!! Assixtir Malaka !

[EPSILON]

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[EPSILON]

Oh please stop pretending that the TCs have any say so in being in control of their own destiny in the north. They are in the minority to the settlers for God sake, and just because they are in control of the Micky Mouse Parliament, hardly makes them in control. The fact that many TCs use the RoC's and EU's positions for their own needs without any loyalty to even consider themselves to be Cypriots, is an embarrassment and an insult to their own integrity, or lack there of it.!

Then it is all over bar the shouting – may as well remove the RoC benefits from TCs that live in the North and see what happens. Given your above statement would mean that the population of the North do not want a solution.

Since 2004, the only "solution" the north has been interested in, is where it is non Democratic, violation of others Human Rights, violation of International Laws, non EU Principles, Partition option to be left open, 2 people, 2 nationalities, 2 of what ever else you can think of, and 29%+ of the land under strict TC (Turkey) rule. Now AWE, you tell me, does the above recipe sounds like a workable settlement to you or did I get this recipe wrong, in which case, please feel free to correct the above. So you tell me, AWE, does the north want to unify or not, and if so, under what conditions and terms if they are different from the above I gave you.?

By the way, AWE. I have to assume that you are a TC/Turk (I’m a Cyprus born TC), in which case, you really should stop quoting others by using their out dated 200+ years ago quotes which may have been relevant at that time but not today under True Democracy in the West, as you have done with your signature. The US did not have a True Democracy in those days and what they did have, was no better than what Saudi Arabia has today, which is crap, which is no different than so called Democracies in many parts of the world. In fact it was worse, since slave ownership was legal at that time in the US. As you may have noticed, we have a black president in the US, and that only came about because of True Democracy which gives each American citizen Equal Rights under the constitution.

I really do not want to embarrass you any further with this, but only an idiot would use such outdated quotes in today's world, because 51% majority does not take away the rights (Democratic or Constitutional) from the other 49%. In Thomas Jefferson's time, at best, 10% privileged whites took away all the "Democratic and Constitutional" ( these people were not protected by the constitution) right of others as well as their Human Rights when it came to the blacks and most other immigrants, such as the Chinese and the Irish. I took Erolz to task on the same subject, except he was quoting Benjamin Franklin. Same crap, different names. It makes you look silly in trying to score political points by mocking Democracy, just because True Democracy, Human Rights, International Laws does not serve your purpose.. So, Can I assume in that case that you do not vote at all.?

Kikapu, I am following your post long time now.You use to post long texts , very well written , i can say some time very sophistigated.

I feel that you can not understand (some genious have this problem) the basic thing about Cyprus problem.

Turks won a war.!!!They still have the military power.Greece is sleeping (politicians) , trying to get as much pribes as they can.Cyprus (ROC) is a small -very small coin for int community and particularly for Turkey.

You , and many others, MUST underatsand that the problem is simple as such.

THE ONLY DEFENCE G/CS CAN HAVE IS TO REMAIN GREEKS (INRELEVANT TO GREEK REPUBLIC) AND TO INSIT ON THIS WAITING..
Unfortunatetly all others are theories - A country like Germany surrended because of allies military power and you, othes, telling us here that ROC can negotiate with Turks a "fair" solution?"

G/cs must urgently change targets and policies

EPSILON SPOKE!!!!

Yesterday you abused me by saying that TCs smell and today you amuse me by saying TCs write great.!

I don't know. Your whole approach stinks to me.!!

I feel that you are mixing up jokes and discussion-two different things.

[EPSILON]

Oh please stop pretending that the TCs have any say so in being in control of their own destiny in the north. They are in the minority to the settlers for God sake, and just because they are in control of the Micky Mouse Parliament, hardly makes them in control. The fact that many TCs use the RoC's and EU's positions for their own needs without any loyalty to even consider themselves to be Cypriots, is an embarrassment and an insult to their own integrity, or lack there of it.!

Then it is all over bar the shouting – may as well remove the RoC benefits from TCs that live in the North and see what happens. Given your above statement would mean that the population of the North do not want a solution.

Since 2004, the only "solution" the north has been interested in, is where it is non Democratic, violation of others Human Rights, violation of International Laws, non EU Principles, Partition option to be left open, 2 people, 2 nationalities, 2 of what ever else you can think of, and 29%+ of the land under strict TC (Turkey) rule. Now AWE, you tell me, does the above recipe sounds like a workable settlement to you or did I get this recipe wrong, in which case, please feel free to correct the above. So you tell me, AWE, does the north want to unify or not, and if so, under what conditions and terms if they are different from the above I gave you.?

By the way, AWE. I have to assume that you are a TC/Turk (I’m a Cyprus born TC), in which case, you really should stop quoting others by using their out dated 200+ years ago quotes which may have been relevant at that time but not today under True Democracy in the West, as you have done with your signature. The US did not have a True Democracy in those days and what they did have, was no better than what Saudi Arabia has today, which is crap, which is no different than so called Democracies in many parts of the world. In fact it was worse, since slave ownership was legal at that time in the US. As you may have noticed, we have a black president in the US, and that only came about because of True Democracy which gives each American citizen Equal Rights under the constitution.

I really do not want to embarrass you any further with this, but only an idiot would use such outdated quotes in today's world, because 51% majority does not take away the rights (Democratic or Constitutional) from the other 49%. In Thomas Jefferson's time, at best, 10% privileged whites took away all the "Democratic and Constitutional" ( these people were not protected by the constitution) right of others as well as their Human Rights when it came to the blacks and most other immigrants, such as the Chinese and the Irish. I took Erolz to task on the same subject, except he was quoting Benjamin Franklin. Same crap, different names. It makes you look silly in trying to score political points by mocking Democracy, just because True Democracy, Human Rights, International Laws does not serve your purpose.. So, Can I assume in that case that you do not vote at all.?

Kikapu, I am following your post long time now.You use to post long texts , very well written , i can say some time very sophistigated.

I feel that you can not understand (some genious have this problem) the basic thing about Cyprus problem.

Turks won a war.!!!They still have the military power.Greece is sleeping (politicians) , trying to get as much pribes as they can.Cyprus (ROC) is a small -very small coin for int community and particularly for Turkey.

You , and many others, MUST underatsand that the problem is simple as such.

THE ONLY DEFENCE G/CS CAN HAVE IS TO REMAIN GREEKS (INRELEVANT TO GREEK REPUBLIC) AND TO INSIT ON THIS WAITING..
Unfortunatetly all others are theories - A country like Germany surrended because of allies military power and you, othes, telling us here that ROC can negotiate with Turks a "fair" solution?"

G/cs must urgently change targets and policies

EPSILON SPOKE!!!!

Indeed he did , Rubbish as always !!

Re Milti-fkale fausan gia 10 meres eipa sou

Re malaka , etsi ambalatous opos esena lalo tous assixtir !!
Elliniki kipriaki demokratia !!! Assixtir Malaka !

Miso lepto na do an exo xoro na se grapso tzie esena - xereis pou!!!

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