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WHOSE VIEWS DO YOU CONSIDER CONSTRUCTIVE TO THE CYPROB

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WHOSE VIEWS DO YOU CONSIDER CONSTRUCTIVE TO THE CYPROB

Poll ended at Wed Aug 26, 2009 9:25 pm

GR
6
19%
Miltiades
12
39%
Paphitis
13
42%
 
Total votes : 31

Postby denizaksulu » Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:31 am

Floda wrote:
miltiades wrote:Floda , do me a favour , fuck off !!!
What a Plonker you are young lady !!


Wrong again miltiades BUT, if I were, do you consider your outbursts a suitable manner in which to address one ?.

Yet another example of how well Anglicised you have become, a 'Credit' to your new status and a particular insult to the nation which you claim to have spawned you (Cyprus) originally. (IMHO) :roll:



...and you still insist in coming for more. :lol: :lol:


I thought his language indeed proves he is a Cypriot. :lol:
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Postby DT. » Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:39 am

denizaksulu wrote:
Floda wrote:
miltiades wrote:Floda , do me a favour , fuck off !!!
What a Plonker you are young lady !!


Wrong again miltiades BUT, if I were, do you consider your outbursts a suitable manner in which to address one ?.

Yet another example of how well Anglicised you have become, a 'Credit' to your new status and a particular insult to the nation which you claim to have spawned you (Cyprus) originally. (IMHO) :roll:



...and you still insist in coming for more. :lol: :lol:


I thought his language indeed proves he is a Cypriot. :lol:


fuck off Deniz :lol:
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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:45 am

DT. wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Floda wrote:
miltiades wrote:Floda , do me a favour , fuck off !!!
What a Plonker you are young lady !!


Wrong again miltiades BUT, if I were, do you consider your outbursts a suitable manner in which to address one ?.

Yet another example of how well Anglicised you have become, a 'Credit' to your new status and a particular insult to the nation which you claim to have spawned you (Cyprus) originally. (IMHO) :roll:



...and you still insist in coming for more. :lol: :lol:


I thought his language indeed proves he is a Cypriot. :lol:


fuck off Deniz :lol:



I am too polite to say faousa! :lol:

Another graduate from Oracles School of Charm :roll:
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Postby Floda » Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:51 am

DT. wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Floda wrote:
miltiades wrote:Floda , do me a favour , fuck off !!!
What a Plonker you are young lady !!


Wrong again miltiades BUT, if I were, do you consider your outbursts a suitable manner in which to address one ?.

Yet another example of how well Anglicised you have become, a 'Credit' to your new status and a particular insult to the nation which you claim to have spawned you (Cyprus) originally. (IMHO) :roll:



...and you still insist in coming for more. :lol: :lol:


I thought his language indeed proves he is a Cypriot. :lol:


fuck off Deniz :lol:


Actually I do congratulate you both on your sense of humour. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I would point out though that the very fact that Deniz seemingly showed some concern for the sensitivities of miltiades, may well have prompted him to fire yet another salvo in the general direction of 'Yours Truly'. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:02 am

My meek attempts at trying to 'make peace' are for very selfish reasons.

If Greek Cypriots cant find peace among themselves, how on earth can we get peace between GC's and TC's.

I know its ACTION AND REACTION. Pack it in both of you. :lol: :lol:
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Postby Paphitis » Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:11 am

miltiades wrote:Firstly let me again correct you. The Palestinians are divided amongst themselves with the PLO on one side and Hamas on the other , which in itself is also at odds with the more extremist Islamic elements .


Irrelevant!

Miltiades wrote:
Hamas has the destruction of Israel at the top of its agenda , Hamas has NEVER showed its willingness to negotiate prefering instead the use of violence as its weapon in what they believe its a holy war against the "hated" Jews. Its not long ago that Hamas was engaged in a war against the PLO .


It just so happens that if the Jews did the same thing to my country, then I too would hate them in the same way.

I believe you have got things about face, because it is the Israelis that have systematically bulldozed Palestinian villages and towns to make way for new settlements. It is the Israelis that have constantly invaded and pushed them into tiny parcels of land, removed their right of free and unhindered passage, bombed and killed civilians in their thousands.

It is the Israelis that have chosen violence over peace and the Palestinians are just trying to defend themselves the best way they can since they don't possess F-16s and Abrams Tanks.

Miltiades wrote:
I do not have much respect for any struggle that "enlists" extremists and demands the destruction of a nation .


You can't be an extremist for defending your own country.

Miltiades wrote:
I have always supported the right of the Palestinians to their own state and that Israel move back to their pre 1967 borders. Before this is achieved recognition by the Palestinians of Israels right to exist is fundamental , without this gesture Israel is very highly unlikely to reced occupied land whih it claims is for its protection.


Turkey too claims to retain occupied land for the protection of the TCs, even though the real objection is to Turkify Cyprus and change the demographics and take over the whole island.

Turkey and Israel are 2 of the same really.

Miltiades wrote:
The Cypriot people have no problem with their dignity .


I never said they did. It is you that has the problem as you lost you dignity long ago.

Miltiades wrote:
The last 35 years have shown that we are a resilient people , progressive and survivors . We have an economy that was rescued from the ashes , we have the most valuable of all our membership to the EU .Our integrity is solid .


But we have lost half our country!

Miltiades wrote:
Your comments regarding what the Australians would do if invaded have absolutely no relevance to the Cypriot situation.


It has all the relevance in the world.

You don't negotiate with a power that has conquered you. And if Cyprus had opted for Guerrilla Style tactics in 74, the island would not be divided today.

Miltiades wrote:
A political war - Palestinians ought to try it and not listen to those whose views are similar to yours -


The Palestinians need to look at the progress we Cypriots have made in our "political war" and not follow in our footsteps.

Miltiades wrote:
is producing results without a single drop of bood being shed.


What results? Legal action by entities will not result in the RoC achieving justice. At best, the entity will achieve some justice, and that is about it.

Miltiades wrote:
A political war can be won , a polemic one can bring about the destruction of the whole island followed by a Palestinian type of a struggle that will last to the next and the next century.
Be militarily strong is correct and proper under the curent circumstances , invite war and violence is not only catastrophic is bloody stupid.


The political war was lost along time ago Miltiades, This is what happens when you negotiate with a conqueror.

In the end, Turkey will just legalize its gains, and then take the rest at the next opportunity.
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Postby miltiades » Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:47 am

So your solution is war then !!!
You have not changed one bit and I pity all those who blindly support your position.
It is people with same outlook as yours that have ruined Cyprus .
If Cyprus you say , "wishingly ", had opted for Guerrilla Style tactics in 74, the island would not be divided today.
No it would not be divided , it would be under Turkish occupation , the whole island .
Perhaps then you may say we could carry on our struggle for liberation from Turkey!!
Paphitis , you are dreadfully wrong , dangerously insane and utterly misguided.
Our political battles have produced results and will produce even more .
Your war nonsense will produce nothing but catastrophic results , my political war will produce results .
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Postby Floda » Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:49 am

denizaksulu wrote:My meek attempts at trying to 'make peace' are for very selfish reasons.

If Greek Cypriots cant find peace among themselves, how on earth can we get peace between GC's and TC's.

I know its ACTION AND REACTION. Pack it in both of you. :lol: :lol:


Deniz, I am a man who can identify perfectly well with ALL Cypriots, fully realising that (in the greater part) each individual has his/her own story to tell and (in some cases) such tales would melt a heart of stone.

I dismiss the distinction of T/C and G/C as political rubbish, since my childhood memories are filled with events which highlighted no such divisions which seem to be so relevant now.

Generally observing the behaviour of those I still associate with, I would state that there are very few with strong political views since they are mostly concerned with their day to day lives.

Those that ARE a little more politically aware have scant respect for the manner in which the politicians seek to mould public opinion to suit their own agendas (particularly those relating to Cyprus) they are sensible enough to understand that what takes place in obscurity is more likely to come to fruition than that which is exposed to them (behind the scenes deals, one example of which is currently under severe scrutiny regarding the Lockerbie fiasco) for such is the manner in which important issues are now dealt with.

Not one of the aforementioned (nor any other Cypriot I have encountered) has ever countenanced the actions of either the US or the UK in their campaigns of violence against defenceless other nations.

Neither have any countenanced the actions of Israel in Palestine.

Except for miltiades.

Small wonder then that he should attract the condemnation of so many. :roll:
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Postby Byron » Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:53 am

yialousa1971 wrote:
Byron wrote:Could someone please kindly explain - In which way are the three members constructive to the Cyprus Problem without having to read all their posts ?

No presentation has been presented for each candidate !!!


Well Miltiades wants to make us into Turks.
GR is a Turk.
Paphitis wants to be friends with Turks.

Myself I voted for lesser of the three evils, Paphitis. :shock:



Very good precis of the candidates !!!
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Postby The Cypriot » Tue Aug 25, 2009 4:31 pm

yialousa1971 wrote:
Byron wrote:Could someone please kindly explain - In which way are the three members constructive to the Cyprus Problem without having to read all their posts ?

No presentation has been presented for each candidate !!!


Well Miltiades wants to make us into Turks.
GR is a Turk.
Paphitis wants to be friends with Turks.

Myself I voted for lesser of the three evils, Paphitis. :shock:


You gave your vote to someone who wants to be friends with Turks? You could have abstained, you traitor.
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