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Postby gabaston » Thu Jun 30, 2005 11:35 pm

bro

i think i want a full refund too.
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Postby brother » Thu Jun 30, 2005 11:37 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: shocking isn't it.
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Postby MicAtCyp » Fri Jul 01, 2005 8:10 pm

Kifeas wrote: Mama Turka knows that very well! In fact, I will be very surprised if Mama Turka would dare such a thing, knowing how important role their "prestige" plays for them. She would rather prefer to commit suicide than risk its prestige - especially the military one.


Turkey never had the guts to fight a war in which they would not be 100% sure they would win. All they proved so far is to fight against defendless people.A week ago they sent 200 commandos supported by Apatchi Helicopters just to slaughter 4 Kurdish shepperds!!

Now to all you guys in here who accused Kifeas of being a war monger, please pay attention to his word prestige. Yes if Turkey attacks us I can assure you the cost will be tremendous for her, and your Generals will lose their prestige.Turkey herself will be re-evaluated as to what her military worthiness is.Today is not 1974 and any attack against us will not be a walk!!!! Before accusing me too of being a war monger, may I remind you that I speak specifically for the event of Turkey attacking us.That would be too much...

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Turkey C wrote: Do you really think Turkey(Turkish public) is afraid of USA??


But so were the Iraqis, weren’t they?

wrote: Look, USA is close to its end as a superpower, it is losing its economical and military power! The anti-American feeling in Turkey is already quite a lot, that is why America is asking Erdogan to turn this other way round.


I totally agree with you. I told this to a guy in this forum called Bananiot in the past and he fell from the sky. USA is a fague superpower! It is just supported financially to be used by Europe to play their dirty games.

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brother on Thu Jun 30, 2005 10:55 pm wrote: Maybe he is maybe he is not but how many kids out there ..... snip


Congratulations brother for your first and unique 40 lines post out of your 4000, two-four line ones!!! It really striked me to see that. Brother if I tell you the GCs will throw an atomic bomb on the Turkey I beleive you must write at least an 80 lines post. Promise?
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Postby cannedmoose » Fri Jul 01, 2005 8:22 pm

MicAtCyp wrote:Now to all you guys in here who accused Kifeas of being a war monger, please pay attention to his word prestige. Yes if Turkey attacks us I can assure you the cost will be tremendous for her, and your Generals will lose their prestige.Turkey herself will be re-evaluated as to what her military worthiness is.Today is not 1974 and any attack against us will not be a walk!!!! Before accusing me too of being a war monger, may I remind you that I speak specifically for the event of Turkey attacking us.That would be too much...


You miss the point. It's not so much a case of prestige for Turkey's armed forces, any hypothetical conflict pitting Turkey's army against that of Cyprus would only have one outcome and that would be a cakewalk, no matter how much you wish to deny it. The Turkish armed forces are very well-regarded amongst people in NATO and their best units are a match for almost any force in the world. You are correct when you mention the word 'prestige' although it would be better characterised as 'standing'. If a conflict were ever provoked by Turkey, it would be guaranteed to lose out on several fronts:

1. EU membership would be taken off the table
2. Trade between Turkey and the EU would be cut-off due to the Cypriot veto (assuming that Cypriot political leaders escaped and continued their de jure government responsibility in exile)
3. It would be a simple case of naked aggression and would be denounced in the UN.
4. Turkey would lose all good will from its smaller neighbours who already fear Turkey as a growing regional power.

These are just a few ways in which it would be disadvantageous for Turkey to engage in any military expedition in Cyprus again. So, while it would be popular at home, it would probably end very much as the 1982 Argentine expedition to the Falklands ended - forced withdrawal, domestic humiliation, overthrow of any government stupid enough to launch it.

A lot has changed since 1974. The world would not stand idly by again. Anyway, it's a nonsensical hypothesis because it can and will never happen.
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Postby Murtaza » Fri Jul 01, 2005 8:28 pm

Turkey never had the guts to fight a war in which they would not be 100% sure they would win.

Is this a joke or insult?

Should I rem'nd you who is Turkey ancestories? You should know them better.
Ottomans. Remember them?

Another point, Turkey will never lost any war against greeks(greece).
So you think ROC have enough power to stop Turkey?
And Yes It would be a walk. Maybe a little slow walk, but still walk.

Yes we are not 1974, GC have better weapons, but so Turks too.
You are underestimating Turkey, and you did it before. Did you like results?

If Turkey is your enemy, at least know power of your enemy, and yourself, dont make joke that You can resist Turkey.

Even Greece cant resist Turkey more than 2 month with most optimistic scenario.

Canned,
Do you realy think, Turkey ever will attack gc?
We have nothing to gain from GC. But If She attack, she wont care much for EU. So EU count for nothing. They will not use force against Turkey.

And If GC attack, well
Hahahaha
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Postby metecyp » Fri Jul 01, 2005 11:10 pm

MicAtCyp wrote:Turkey never had the guts to fight a war in which they would not be 100% sure they would win.

Dude, Turkish people fought against Russians, Greeks, British, French to gain their independence and form Turkey and you tell me that Turkey never had the guts to fight strong enemies? Where do you get your Turkish news? GC Propoganda office?
All they proved so far is to fight against defendless people.A week ago they sent 200 commandos supported by Apatchi Helicopters just to slaughter 4 Kurdish shepperds!!

Man, I didn't know that. I'm sure Turks did that knowing how evil Turks and how peaceful Kurds are! Do you really believe in what you said?
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Postby Turkey (( * » Fri Jul 01, 2005 11:22 pm

MicAtCyp, you told me that the Iraqis were not afraid of USA. Please stop making me laugh, I lose my sleep when I laugh too much! Iraqis had a weak army, USA may have strongest army but please watch out Turkish army is 5th most strongest in the world(I read this from an international magazine 4-5 years ago). And you cannot imagine a defending army's strength, it will be huge, I remind you the Turksh independance war!!!
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Postby gabaston » Fri Jul 01, 2005 11:53 pm

metecyp

also Korea/Chinese.


"The Turks are the hero of heroes. There is no impossibility for the Turkish Brigade." - General Douglas MacArthur - United Nations Forces Commander in Chief



oooo those cowardly mongroians were at it again huh?
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Postby Kifeas » Sat Jul 02, 2005 1:28 pm

gabaston wrote:metecyp

also Korea/Chinese.


"The Turks are the hero of heroes. There is no impossibility for the Turkish Brigade." - General Douglas MacArthur - United Nations Forces Commander in Chief



oooo those cowardly mongroians were at it again huh?

Gabaston and Murtaza,
As you know, it is not the quantity but the quality that counts.
We might not be as numerous and big as turkey but quality wise we are far better.

Look for example at the Medals table of the current Mediterranean Games in Almeria of Spain.
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In terms of total medal wins per population, Cyprus is only second after Slovenia.

Your Country is on the 14th position.

We won almost 9 (8.96) medals per one million people. You won less than one medal (0.92) per one million people.

That means that the winning capacity of 1 Cypriot equals the total winning capacity of more than 9 Turks.

Including the reservists, we have 100,000 troops. (Every capable and trained male from 18 - 50 years old.)

That means that in order for Turkey to win a war in Cyprus, you must bring here more than 900,000 soldiers. Your total Army is only 1 million.

That means that you must remove your entire Army from all parts of Turkey, including the boarder with Greece, in order to attack us and win a war. That also means that Greece will make a walk and conquer Istanbul and Smyrna, because you will have no soldiers to defend them.

According to your father Mustafa Kemal, "one Turk equals the whole world." Since you believe in him, then you must also accept that one Cypriot equals 9 times the whole world.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Jul 02, 2005 1:32 pm

GC logic for you,what crap :lol:
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